The Trump Administration's thoughts on the War in Ukraine, in a Nutshell

[rightwinger]

The only way to get them out is a blockade or sending in NATO to kick them out.

Because of Trump siding with Putin
NATO may have to send in troops

 

[TimFitz]

At this point with the criticism from Europe and Zelensky. I say fuck it let them figure it out. We pull out our money and our support and they can go on their own for once, we bailed Europe out of two world wars about goddamn time to learn how to take care of themselves

We got drawn into two world wars precisely because of your kind of thinking.

 

[Ringo]

National greatness comes from having a high standard of living, a low crime rate, and a well functioning government.

So, you have no greatness at all?

 

[Hector12]

So, you have no greatness at all?

We in the United States have a higher crime rate than Russia. That is because Russia lacks our large black and Hispanic populations. Countries that are majority black or majority Hispanic have even higher crime rates than we do

Despite that, we have a higher standard of living than Russia, and a better functioning government.

 

[TimFitz]

Ukrainian and Baltic nationalists.


NATO.

Russian troll.

 

[TimFitz]

We in the United States have a higher crime rate than Russia. That is because Russia lacks our large black and Hispanic populations. Countries that are majority black or majority Hispanic have even higher crime rates than we do

Despite that, we have a higher standard of living than Russia, and a better functioning government.

Your racism is showing.

 

[TimFitz]

Zelensky realizes that tactically he needs to submit to Trump to prolong his prosperity. But he also realizes that if he gives up everything, he will be no more needed than those afghans, who clung to the landing gear of departing American planes. He's trying to play it cool, and so far, thinly, he's succeeding.

It turns out that grandpa Trump scolds great-grandpa Biden for the fact that the clever Zelensky wraped him aroun his finger, but in reality he finds himself in the same situation.
However, the head of the Kiev regime is still in the role of a poor man from a grim anecdote, who fell from a skyscraper, answering the question “How are you doing?” thrown from the window, he replied “Fine! Feels like flying!”

Well, that’s what Putin wants, and what Trump tried to bully him into accepting.

 

[Ringo]

Despite that, we have a higher standard of living than Russia, and a better functioning government.

Not really in the first part and nor bloody likely in the second.
But you have to hand it to American politicians, they steal more and more skillfully - such an ingenious move as decriminalizing bribery by call it lobbin... Someone in Hell is sitting on a golden frying pan in gratitude to the Devil.

 

[martybegan]

Because of Trump siding with Putin
NATO may have to send in troops

No, because just sending them money and 20 year old equipment is just going to keep the stalemate going.

 

[Hector12]

Not really in the first part and nor bloody likely in the second.
But you have to hand it to American politicians, they steal more and more skillfully - such an ingenious move as decriminalizing bribery by call it lobbin... Someone in Hell is sitting on a golden frying pan in gratitude to the Devil.

In the United States one usually becomes rich by inventing or marketing something people want to buy. The Russian oligarchs became rich because before Communism fell, they were high ranking members of the Russian Communist party. When Communism fell, they confiscated the wealth over which they previously had control.

 

[August West]

Russians are fighting against people who discriminate them, abuse them and kill them (say nothing about people who are making preparations to attack Russians). It's pure self-defense.
When the USA were in same position - they acted the same way.

The USA has done things just as bad. We`ve been searching for WMDs in Iraq for 23 years. Iraq and Vietnam should be asking for reparations for what we did to those countries.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Because of Trump siding with Putin
NATO may have to send in troops

Nope. It’s because Weak Worthless *Joe let Russia invade in the first place.

 

[Ringo]

In the United States one usually becomes rich by inventing or marketing something people want to buy.

Explain the term “rich.” For example, Obama, before he became president, had a little more than a million dollars, and by the end of his term he had made about 200 million dollars.
What did he invent or sell? And how do you explain that politicians in the U.S. get rich far beyond their salaries?

 

[rightwinger]

Nope. It’s because Weak Worthless *Joe let Russia invade in the first place.

Actually, President Biden built a global coalition to punish Putin and support Ukraine

Trump fucked it up in a month

 

[Zavulon]

That was good thinking during the Second World War when Germany invaded Russia.

It was always good thinking. Kill the enemy before he kill you.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

No. Ukraine invaded DPR and LPR.

Putin, and Russians who support him, need to learn that national greatness is not achieved by conquering countries that want to be independent.

We OK about countries who want to be independent (really independent). We are not OK with countries who want to join a hostile alliance, and those who discriminate us, abuse us and kill us.

National greatness comes from having a high standard of living, a low crime rate, and a well functioning government.

Nothing of that will be possible if we all are killed.

The Germans and the Japanese are better off now than when they were winning World War II.

It depends. In the alternative history, where Germany and Japan had won WWII, it might be better for them, and definitely much worse for defeated Russians and Americans. Ever read "The Man in the High Castle"?

 

[Zavulon]

The USA has done things just as bad. We`ve been searching for WMDs in Iraq for 23 years. Iraq and Vietnam should be asking for reparations for what we did to those countries.

Americans had their reasons to fight, we have our reasons to fight. From my point of view - our reasons are much better, but I understand your reason either. We are fighting for our own people, on our own land against the enemy who tried to eradicate us, and who officially declared the goal of our total genocide.

 

[Hector12]

Nothing of that will be possible if we all are killed.


It depends. In the alternative history, where Germany and Japan had won WWII, it might be better for them, and definitely much worse for defeated Russians and Americans. Ever read "The Man in the High Castle"?

No one wants to kill all the Russians.

We will never know what would have happened if Germany and Japan had won World War II: That is to say if German had honored its non aggression pact with Russia.

Germany and Japan would never have been able to turn power into authority. They would have had to contend with resistance movements.

After World War II the British figured out that the cost of maintaining their empire was greater than the financial rewards they received from it.

 

[Zavulon]

No one wants to kill all the Russians.

Germans (and some other Europeans) want. Thats what they try to do, when they have an opportunity.

We will never know what would have happened if Germany and Japan had won World War II: That is to say if German had honored its non aggression pact with Russia.

But we can make rather good guesses. They had plans, those plans were published and we have no reasons to think that they wouldn't follow them.

Germany and Japan would never have been able to turn power into authority. They would have had to contend with resistance movements.

As if they didn't have their own ways to supresse resistance.

After World War II the British figured out that the cost of maintaining their empire was greater than the financial rewards they received from it.

Mostly because Russia and America win the war and make their expences higher and profits lower.

 

[Hector12]

Germans (and some other Europeans) want. Thats what they try to do, when they have an opportunity.


But we can make rather good guesses. They had plans, those plans were published and we have no reasons to think that they wouldn't follow them.


As if they didn't have their own ways to supresse resistance.

Mostly because Russia and America win the war and make their expences higher and profits lower.

Russia is the biggest country in the world. The Russian Bear should start acting like a grownup,

 

[Zavulon]

Russia is the biggest country in the world. The Russian Bear should start acting like a grownup,

Russia is the biggest country in the world exactly because when somebody say that he wants to kill us, we don't hide under a blanket, we don't create self-comforting stories that they doesn't actually mean that. No. We act like the grownups. We kill them first.