The true homeland of the Jews is not "Israel"

[hadit]

If God promised the Jews a 'Promised Land', why didn't he give them America?

God must have known that America existed, right?

If he could part the Red Sea, and have Noah build an arc, he certainly could have had Moses & the Jews build a bunch of boats and sail to America.

Instead, he gave them a shitty piece of land by the Jordan river - one that was right smack in the middle of a bunch of different civilizations, and sure to be a battle ground for thousands of years.

It has to be THE WORST PIECE OF REAL ESTATE IN THE WORLD!!!!

If I was Jewish, I'd be PISSED OFF AT GOD!

What a rip off!

Then, of course, the world would be trying to eliminate Israel in North America. Only the location would change, because Jew-hate doesn't know geography.

 

[Anomalism]

From the way I see it, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, and Jorden should join forces attacking the illegally occupied land now falsely called Israel.

The land of Israel never existed prior to 1948ad.


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Please note, the title to the above map states “occupied territories”

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All land was stolen at some point. At this point in time there are generations of Jews that have been born in Israel and have spent their entire lives there.

 

[surada]

what is jebusite?

Canaanites.

 

[Richard-H]

Then, of course, the world would be trying to eliminate Israel in North America. Only the location would change, because Jew-hate doesn't know geography.

Though it's entirely hypothetical, the root cause for anti-semitism lies in the historical fact that the original homeland of the Jews happened to be smack in the middle of all the major civilizations.

In ancient times Judea was the crux of international trade - making it incredibly valuable to every empire. That's the same reason why Jews are all over the world and so hugely engaged in commerce.

When Judea was conquered by the Muslims, all trade was stopped - which is why the age of exploration began in Europe.

Do you really think that all the invasions of Judea AND the current war are all about Religious zeal?

If they are it's only because money is their only God.

 

[surada]

Though it's entirely hypothetical, the root cause for anti-semitism lies in the historical fact that the original homeland of the Jews happened to be smack in the middle of all the major civilizations.

In ancient times Judea was the crux of international trade - making it incredibly valuable to every empire. That's the same reason why Jews are all over the world and so hugely engaged in commerce.

When Judea was conquered by the Muslims, all trade was stopped - which is why the age of exploration began in Europe.

Do you really think that all the invasions of Judea AND the current war are all about Religious zeal?

If they are it's only because money is their only God.

The Arabs traded with Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant, East Africa and the Indus Valley.

Jerusalem was a whistle stop on the trade route. The Arabs were bringing frankensence and myrrh to pharaoh and Herod.

 

[The Duke]

For the truth’s sake, the land now being occupied by the Israelis is not the homeland of the Jews.

Is the land of “Israel” their true ancient homeland?

Promised Land

“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.

Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.”
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab

From there they moved to Egypt

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

Based on the above the “Promised Land” is not the land the Jews are occupying today. In biblical verse terms the Jews were nomads who were wonderers living off of the land grazing their sheep on the open plains.

Then the question that needs to be asked---

Why does the Israeli’s call the land they live on today their ancestral land?

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From the way I see it, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, and Jorden should join forces attacking the illegally occupied land now falsely called Israel.

The land of Israel never existed prior to 1948ad.


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Please note, the title to the above map states “occupied territories”

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They really never had a "homeland"
Promised Land

“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.

Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

Bible Gateway passage: Joel 3 - English Standard Version

The LORD Judges the Nations - “For behold, in those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. And I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage...

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The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.”
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

Bible Gateway passage: Joel 3 - English Standard Version

The LORD Judges the Nations - “For behold, in those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. And I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage...

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myth busted
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There is an old saying: try, try again until you win
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Where's Jerusalem, you commie idiot?

Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 122 - King James Version

I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD. Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem. Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together: Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of...

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8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Bible Gateway passage: Zechariah 12 - King James Version

The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege...

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You don't know how to use The Bible correctly because you do not know God.

"12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.

14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them."

Bible Gateway passage: Isaiah 11 - King James Version

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; And shall make him of...

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"The Lord roars from Zion,
and utters his voice from Jerusalem,
and the heavens and the earth quake.
But the Lord is a refuge to his people,
a stronghold to the people of Israel."

Bible Gateway passage: Joel 3 - English Standard Version

The LORD Judges the Nations - “For behold, in those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. And I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage...

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History didn't begin in 1948, Commietardo.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Jerusalem was a Jebusite city.

Until God told Joshua to overthrow it.

 

[Richard-H]

The Arabs traded with Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant, East Africa and the Indus Valley.

Jerusalem was a whistle stop on the trade route. The Arabs were bringing frankensence and myrrh to pharaoh and Herod.

So nobody was interested in Egyptian cotton or paper?

Asia had no goods that the Egyptians or Greeks wanted?

At that time there really weren't 'Arabs' as such. There were Jews, Persians, Babylonians, Syrians, Egyptians & Phoenicians. There were also Greeks and Romans. All of these civilizations traded with each other and all made war with each other. Judea was smack in the middle.

 

[xyz]

Unfortunately, Israel is not going anywhere.

Neither are the Palestinians.

In my opinion, the Jews interbred with those populations living in the area of modern day Israel/Palestine. And then with Europeans and other nationalities. Not a bad thing, just saying.

And I still think many Palestinians were Jews converted to Islam.

 

[surada]

Until God told Joshua to overthrow it.

They bought Jerusalem.

 

[watchingfromafar]

This murder should make you proud​

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
https://www.dci-palestine.org/palestinian_girl_dies_two_days_after_an_israeli_bullet_to_the_head
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[surada]

King Solomon had the land thousands of years ago, and his son divided it into two parts, one called Israel.

The jews have lived on that land for 4000 years, long before ANYONE ELSE.

Israel came first. Palestine is the Greco-Roman (and later Arab and Ottoman) colonial name for Israel, which the Romans imposed on it after crushing the Bar Kokhba revolt. This was done to erase all memory of the Jews and their origins/history in Israel.

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Natufians, Canaanites, Akkadians and Egyptians came before the Jews.

 

[surada]

So nobody was interested in Egyptian cotton or paper?

Asia had no goods that the Egyptians or Greeks wanted?

At that time there really weren't 'Arabs' as such. There were Jews, Persians, Babylonians, Syrians, Egyptians & Phoenicians. There were also Greeks and Romans. All of these civilizations traded with each other and all made war with each other. Judea was smack in the middle.

Nope. They were from the Arabian peninsula. They also traded in pearls from Bahrain and textiles from the East as well as spices and salt.

Jerusalem was 12 acres and a thousand people in bandit territory.

 

[Richard-H]

Nope. They were from the Arabian peninsula. They also traded in pearls from Bahrain and textiles from the East as well as spices and salt.

Jerusalem was 12 acres and a thousand people in bandit territory.

So then why did all those ancient non-Abrahamic civilizations conqueror Judea? The Syrians, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks & Romans?

Do you really think that they conquer just to conquer? You do realize that even back then armies cost an incredible amount of money. There had to be an economic motive.

Only Religious zealot nutcases conquer just to conquer - and even then, there's almost always a secret economic motive that the leaders hide from their dumbass followers.

 

[JusticeHammer]

The Natufians, Canaanites, Akkadians and Egyptians came before the Jews.

Who God told the Jews to get rid of. Israeli land, period.

 

[Failzero]

They have found Proto Hebrew writing & Finds from long before the First Temple

 

[Mac-7]

The argument “our ancestors were there before, because it is written so in our holy books” does not work at all, because, according to the Old Testament, the jews destroyed 7 nations that already lived on the territory of modern Israel and Palestine. This argument is bullshit and always a scam for war.

It was God’s will

 

[The Duke]

So then why did all those ancient non-Abrahamic civilizations conqueror Judea? The Syrians, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks & Romans?

Do you really think that they conquer just to conquer? You do realize that even back then armies cost an incredible amount of money. There had to be an economic motive.

Only Religious zealot nutcases conquer just to conquer - and even then, there's almost always a secret economic motive that the leaders hide from their dumbass followers.

Do you really think you're smarter and have more power than God?

Who do you think split up the Babylonians and created all those civilizations? That was God, bruh.

 

[Ringo]

It was God’s will

Is this the God you talking about?

 

[Mac-7]

Is this the God you talking about?

No