The true extent of water contamination in Pennsylvania from fracking has been concealed.

[the other mike]

This is the one area I disagree with the President on.
Fracking is not worth the damage it does.

If Pa voters are well-informed, Trump could have trouble winning there after jumping on the frack-wagon. Biden won't help either...you heard him last night. He can't say fracking is bad and lose the fossil fuel money.

After 7 years, these Pa. residents still have no water. But they got cash to keep quiet

Seven years after the taps ran orange and black in the Woodlands, a hardscrabble community dappled with shale gas wells, the water is still undrinkable. Its angriest residents, however, have fallen silent.

www.pennlive.com

Over more than two years, Public Herald's team scanned 2,309 complaints from 17 of 40 counties. The complaints are stored online in the #fileroom database. The fracking complaints were stored in filing cabinets and most cases weren't entered into any formal central tracking system. The 17 counties account for about 80 percent of Pennsylvania's fracking wells drilled.

Fracking's impact on groundwater lingers in northern Pennsylvania

Fracking's impact on groundwater lingers in northern Pennsylvania

www.pressconnects.com

Mouthwash Can Inactivate Human Coronavirus in a Lab, but What Does This Really Mean? - EcoWatch

A study published in the Journal of Medical Virology found that some common mouthwashes and nasal rinses could inactivate a type of human coronavirus in the lab. This led the authors to hypothesize that the same products might be an additional line of defense against SARS‐CoV‐2, the virus that...

www.ecowatch.com

 

[RodISHI]

Water travels under ground and takes whatever pollutants are in it with it. Farm chemicals and other industrial pollutants are also a major issue in areas where they get into water supplies.

 

[flacaltenn]

This is the one area I disagree with the President on.
Fracking is not worth the damage it does.

If Pa voters are well-informed, Trump could have trouble winning there after jumping on the frack-wagon. Biden won't help either...you heard him last night. He can't say fracking is bad and lose the fossil fuel money.

After 7 years, these Pa. residents still have no water. But they got cash to keep quiet

Seven years after the taps ran orange and black in the Woodlands, a hardscrabble community dappled with shale gas wells, the water is still undrinkable. Its angriest residents, however, have fallen silent.

www.pennlive.com

Over more than two years, Public Herald's team scanned 2,309 complaints from 17 of 40 counties. The complaints are stored online in the #fileroom database. The fracking complaints were stored in filing cabinets and most cases weren't entered into any formal central tracking system. The 17 counties account for about 80 percent of Pennsylvania's fracking wells drilled.

Fracking's impact on groundwater lingers in northern Pennsylvania

Fracking's impact on groundwater lingers in northern Pennsylvania

www.pressconnects.com

Mouthwash Can Inactivate Human Coronavirus in a Lab, but What Does This Really Mean? - EcoWatch

A study published in the Journal of Medical Virology found that some common mouthwashes and nasal rinses could inactivate a type of human coronavirus in the lab. This led the authors to hypothesize that the same products might be an additional line of defense against SARS‐CoV‐2, the virus that...

www.ecowatch.com

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What you're not seeing is these people MAKING the reports are living over Mother Nature's toxic waste dump.. BEEN that way for a LONG time.. And when the EPA and others investigate -- these complaints largely PRE-DATE fracking..

Some of the chemical compounds blamed on fracking are NATURALLY found in these areas and their water table.. Might be doing a kind of environmental remediation by REMOVING some of those hydrocarbon compounds..

 

[mdk]

The fracking industry isn't going anywhere here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. The places where it's most occurring are all Republican as fuck. Not to worry, *if* things go tits up those industry leader will be there to make things right and true. lol

 

[whitehall]

Coal mines have impacted Pa.'s water for a hundred years. Fracking has been going on for longer than 4 years. Why did the Obama/Biden conceal the alleged water contamination? Why blame Trump?

 

[the other mike]

Coal mines have impacted Pa.'s water for a hundred years. Fracking has been going on for longer than 4 years. Why did the Obama/Biden conceal the alleged water contamination? Why blame Trump?

Nobody's blaming Trump.
I'm disagreeing that it's something he should campaign on.

 

[the other mike]

June 20, 2017

For almost a decade, residents of some Pennsylvania counties have complained that the natural gas prospectors nearby have contaminated their water. Locals say that after the fracking for gas began, the water made them sick, that it turned brown, even that it became flammable.

The industry fought back. Nevertheless, in 2016 the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, found related heavy metals and chemicals in quantities high enough to pose health risks. And in December 2016, the Environmental Protection Agency concluded that there is indeed a connection between prospecting for shale gas and contaminated groundwater.

Fracking — when water, chemicals and sand are pumped at high pressure into the earth to shatter layers of shale rock, forcing them to release natural gas and oil — has helped remake the global energy market, lowering prices and turning the United States into a net oil exporter. Pennsylvania has been one of the largest beneficiaries.
But there has been little research on the distance gas drillers should keep from sources of drinking water.
(Continued)

Fracking seems to poison groundwater within one kilometer

As people who live near hydraulic fracking have long complained, the process seems to poison their water. A new paper measures the distance prospectors should keep from water supplies.

journalistsresource.org

 

[the other mike]

This 2015 study found residents of Pennsylvania counties with shale gas developments spent $19 million on bottled water in 2010, likely out of concern that their water supplies had been contaminated by fracking.

 

[RodISHI]

This 2015 study found residents of Pennsylvania counties with shale gas developments spent $19 million on bottled water in 2010, likely out of concern that their water supplies had been contaminated by fracking.

They may be better off to learn how to clean their own water. Fact is most would be better off at this point distilling their own water learning what's in it. Our well is contaminated by road asphalt runoff so will never again be drinkable.

 

[flacaltenn]

June 20, 2017

For almost a decade, residents of some Pennsylvania counties have complained that the natural gas prospectors nearby have contaminated their water. Locals say that after the fracking for gas began, the water made them sick, that it turned brown, even that it became flammable.

The industry fought back. Nevertheless, in 2016 the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, found related heavy metals and chemicals in quantities high enough to pose health risks. And in December 2016, the Environmental Protection Agency concluded that there is indeed a connection between prospecting for shale gas and contaminated groundwater.

Fracking — when water, chemicals and sand are pumped at high pressure into the earth to shatter layers of shale rock, forcing them to release natural gas and oil — has helped remake the global energy market, lowering prices and turning the United States into a net oil exporter. Pennsylvania has been one of the largest beneficiaries.
But there has been little research on the distance gas drillers should keep from sources of drinking water.
(Continued)

Fracking seems to poison groundwater within one kilometer

As people who live near hydraulic fracking have long complained, the process seems to poison their water. A new paper measures the distance prospectors should keep from water supplies.

journalistsresource.org

Not saying it cant' happen in a small number of wells.. But GENERALLY the "pollution" is not from the ACTUAL fracking.. It's from surface water contamination from leaks/explosions or the SOURCE of the water used for the hydraulics.. EPA has narrowed this down in assessments in 2015 and 2016 and much of the early "study" was flawed and not fully documented..

Fracking Does Not Contaminate Drinking Water, Says New Yale Study

Environmentalist opposition to fracking undeterred by data

reason.com

The Environmental Protection Agency released a draft report earlier this year that found that the minor amount of contamination that has occurred was the result of failed well casings and ground spills. The EPA reported that it "did not find that [fracking techniques] have led to widespread, systemic impacts on drinking water resources in the United States."


A new report led by researchers from Yale University published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences has measured well water near fracked wells to see if they might be contaminated by methane and fracking fluids flowing upward from shale formations. What did the researchers find? No contamination due to fracking.

The PNAS summary reports:

Organic compounds found in drinking water aquifers above the Marcellus Shale and other shale plays could reflect natural geologic transport processes or contamination from anthropogenic activities, including enhanced natural gas production. Using analyses of organic compounds coupled with inorganic geochemical fingerprinting, estimates of groundwater residence time, and geospatial analyses of shale gas wells and disclosed safety violations, we determined that the dominant source of organic compounds to shallow aquifers was consistent with surface spills of disclosed chemical additives. There was no evidence of association with deeper brines or long-range migration of these compounds to the shallow aquifers (emphasis added). Encouragingly, drinking water sources affected by disclosed surface spills could be targeted for treatment and monitoring to protect public health.

So how dangerous was the contamination caused by surface spills? Lead investigator Brian Drollette noted that all the chemicals detected in the samples occurred in small concentrations, so they are "likely not a threat to human health."

Old science is never as good as newer science -- so go to that Reason article, download the Epa PDF and at least read the summary and the opening..
There ARE safety issues that have been fixed since some of those EPA reports you are quoting.

Also this concept of "living over Mother Natures' Toxic Waste Dump IS an important consideration.. It came to attention when a leftist org ran a documentary called "Gaslands" on PBS. McAleer produced a counter documentary showing a bunch of local yahoos lighting a small pond (in the vicinity of the alleged fracking contamination on fire.. They had been doing this DECADES PRIOR to any fracking in that area..

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2011/08/01/gasland-producer-misled-viewers-lighted-tap-water

Water Flammable Before Fracking
In Gasland’s most poignant scene, a man in is filmed lighting his tap water on fire. The movie asserts that hydraulic fracturing (also known as fracking) has made this possible by contaminating nearby water sources. McAleer, however, discovered and proved residents in the man’s neighborhood have been able to light their water on fire since at least the 1930s, long before people began producing natural gas in the area. The gas mixing with groundwater appears to be a natural phenomenon.

McAleer was in Chicago when he decided to see a local showing of Gasland. After viewing the movie, his journalistic instincts took over and he started asking questions about what he had seen in the movie. McAleer came across a 1976 study by the Colorado Division of Water that had interesting implications.

“I checked online, and very quickly I came across what seemed to be pretty good, detailed research that showed people were able to burn their tap water years before fracking ever started,” McAleer says


Filmmaker Claims It’s ‘Not Relevant’
McAleer showed up at a subsequent screening at Northwestern University to ask why the movie did not mention the 1976 Colorado study.

Fox replied, “Well, I don’t care about the report from 1976.” Fox said he did not mention the facts from the study because “they’re not relevant.” Then Fox let slip that he was also aware of reports from 1936 that New York residents were able to light their water on fire, also.

“But that’s no bearing on this situation at all,” Fox said.

According to McAleer, the 1976 Colorado study reported “troublesome amounts of methane” in the water and concluded it was naturally occurring, before fracking began.

http://fightgaslandcensorship.com/

‘Frack nation’

Fracking is probably one of the most misunderstood words in the English language. Thanks to the Oscarnominated documentary “Gasland,” many people believe fracking — a process of getting natural gas…

www.nypost.com

Thanks to the Oscarnominated documentary “Gasland,” many people believe fracking — a process of getting natural gas out of rock — pollutes water and creates wastelands wherever it is used.

But like so many documentaries nowadays, Gasland is high on anecdote and emotion but low on science and fact.

One of the most dramatic images in “Gasland” is footage of a resident lighting his tap water with flames shooting out of the faucet.

As a journalist, I wanted to learn more, so I went to a Q&A with Gasland director Josh Fox. As I questioned him, Fox eventually admitted that he knew people could light their tap water in these areas decades before fracking came on the scene.



Read more: ‘Frack nation’

The Gasland movie: a fracking shame – director pulls video to hide inconvenient truths • Watts Up With That?

From "Not Evil, Just Wrong": Gasland director hides full facts Written by Phelim McAleer Josh Fox has made a documentary that makes some pretty alarming claims about gas drilling across the US. But as is often the case when these claims are examined they do not stand up to scrutiny. Fox'...

wattsupwiththat.com

But then a little digging reveals a few inconvenient facts. A 1976 study by the Colorado Division of Water found that this area was plagued with gas in the water problems back then. And it was naturally occurring.
As the report stated there was “troublesome amounts of methane” in the water decades before fracking began. It seems that in geographical areas gas has always been in the water.

 

[the other mike]

new report led by researchers from Yale University published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

I'm suspicious already.

 

[flacaltenn]

new report led by researchers from Yale University published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

I'm suspicious already.

Of YALE? Or the Nat Academy of Sciences? Since when? Why?
You didn't even take the time to READ any of that or download the newer EPA study.. Which BTW -- does far more "political science" and rough science than Yale or PNAS... n

 

[Sunsettommy]

new report led by researchers from Yale University published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

I'm suspicious already.

You are quite the speed reader, fortunately I have read some of this stuff at WUWT written by a Petroleum Geologist, who exposed the Gasland lies. Have also seen expose of Gasland lies in other forums as well. The error prone "documentary" was shameful with misleading claims since it was known for years that sometimes you can light up the water, LONG before Fracking was a major player in the region.

If they feel the need to lie, then that would mean their other "suspicious" claims must be weak indeed.

 

[the other mike]

These 4 Countries Have Banned Fracking … Why Can’t the U.S. Get On Board?

Because of all these abhorrent impacts of fracking, these countries have stood up against the natural gas industry and banned fracking ... so now we're left to wonder why the U.S. just can't seem to get on board!

www.onegreenplanet.org

BREAKING: $4.2 Million Jury Verdict Against Cabot Oil & Gas in Dimock, PA Water Contamination Lawsuit

A Pennsylvania jury handed down a $4.24 million verdict in a lawsuit centering on water contamination from negligent shale gas drilling in Dimock, PA, a tiny town that made international headlines for its flammable and toxic drinking water. The defendant in the lawsuit, Cabot Oil and Gas Corp...

www.desmogblog.com

Fracking Wells Tainting Drinking Water in Texas and Pennsylvania, Study Finds

A new study traced the source of methane in drinking water to faulty fracking wells.

www.newsweek.com

Final EPA Study Confirms Fracking Contaminates Drinking Water - EcoWatch

The EPA has released its final report on hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, confirming that the controversial drilling process indeed impacts drinking water

www.ecowatch.com

Federal Study Proves Fracking Contaminates Ground Water – Central California Environmental Justice Network

ccejn.org

Oklahomans Claim Fracking Waste Polluted Their Water

Three years ago 6 Investigates told you about pollution problems in Bokoshe, in LeFlore County. People there claim they are being poisoned by a coal ash disposal site.

www.newson6.com

Drillers Silence U.S. Water Complaints With Sealed Settlements

Chris and Stephanie Hallowich were sure drilling for natural gas near their Pennsylvania home was to blame for the headaches, burning eyes and sore throats they suffered after the work began.

www.bloomberg.com

1. France
Fracking was banned in France in 2011 and the ban was upheld in 2012. When asked to comment on the ban, President Sarkozy explained that France will maintain a ban on fracking until there is proof that shale gas exploration won’t harm the environment or “massacre” the landscape. Our kind of thinking, Sarkozy!

2. Bulgaria
After France banned fracking, Bulgaria followed suit in 2012, becoming the second European country to ban this dirty practice. In an extra sassy move, with this ban, Bulgaria revoked a shale gas permit granted to the U.S. fossil fuel giant, Chevron. Sorry, we’re not fracking sorry.

3. Germany
Germany first enacted a ban on fracking in 2012, and it was upheld in 2014. According to German Environment Minister Barbara Hendricks, “If, at an unforeseeable time, it can be scientifically proven that [fracking] is completely harmless, then it may no longer be permanently forbidden.”

But, we’re guessing that that time won’t fractually happen.

4. Scotland
Scotland said good day to fracking as of January, 2015. The ban was enacted to allow the Scottish government to conduct necessary public health and environmental assessments of the practice. Based on what we already know about how fracking harms people, animals and the environment, we can only hope that Scottish studies lead to a permanent ban on the process.

 

[initforme]

What chemicals do fracking companies pump in the ground?

 

[flacaltenn]

What chemicals do fracking companies pump in the ground?

It's an engineered solution that added to the clean water.. Contains surfactants (soap), benzene, and a couple other things.. There are diff vendors with diff recipes.. The benzene is lower in that solution than what is FOUND NATURALLY in the shale under a gas field.. Like pissing into a sewer..

 

[ReinyDays]

It's an engineered solution that added to the clean water.. Contains surfactants (soap), benzene, and a couple other things.. There are diff vendors with diff recipes.. The benzene is lower in that solution than what is FOUND NATURALLY in the shale under a gas field.. Like pissing into a sewer..

What happens to this engineered solution after it's been used? ... is it recycled and reused, or is it just left behind? ...

Kinda sounds like you're saying the ground water is already bad, so making it worse isn't a problem ...

 

[ding]

It depends on a lot of factors. The most important being the depth of the zone being frac'd and stress contrasts.

Frac'ing has been going on since the 1960's. The number of wells frac'd since then is in the millions. To argue all frac'ing is bad is ridiculous.

 

[flacaltenn]

It's an engineered solution that added to the clean water.. Contains surfactants (soap), benzene, and a couple other things.. There are diff vendors with diff recipes.. The benzene is lower in that solution than what is FOUND NATURALLY in the shale under a gas field.. Like pissing into a sewer..

What happens to this engineered solution after it's been used? ... is it recycled and reused, or is it just left behind? ...

Kinda sounds like you're saying the ground water is already bad, so making it worse isn't a problem ...

Kinda sounds like what all research says after 12 years of exploring the extent of the problem.. That the folks had been living over "mother nature's toxic dump" for decades.. The detected qtys of benzene that MIGHT be from fracking fluids are far less then the benzene levels already in the ground. And there's NO toxic metals in the fracking fluids.. Those 2 things are the MOST complained about after the presence of Nat Gas ITSELF in the water table...

There were a lot of SPILLS of fracking fluid that DID get into the water table.. These were few and far between compared to the number of drill bores.. You're ALWAYS drilling new bores because the old one "peter out".. KINDA LIKE ---- wait for it --- GEOTHERMAL POWER PLANTS... You know those ULTRA GREEN "mining operations" that were FRACKING before fracking was cool.. BOTH of them inject treated ground water in the ground in the same fashion..

There is RECLAMATION of the fluids. This is a SECONDARY problem.. Because they are supposed to be channeled to KNOWN solid repositories away from the water table.. A few have leaked or ruptured.

But in a large number of complaints -- it was found that the original "clean water source" was ITSELF already "polluted".. And was the major source of any abnormal water tests in the aquifer -- post fracking..

Just dangerous to LIVE over methane infused ground in the first place..

 

[ReinyDays]

There is RECLAMATION of the fluids. This is a SECONDARY problem.. Because they are supposed to be channeled to KNOWN solid repositories away from the water table.. A few have leaked or ruptured.

Is it reclaimed or "channeled to KNOWN solid repositories"? ... what does this second option mean exactly, other than "just left behind"? ...

What's in this fluid? ... and please be wary in your answer, I'm not asking you to disclose trade secrets ... just what the public knows ... I'm sure the identity of the really nasty stuff is a closely guarded ... how about this 140 billion gallons of water per year Greenpeace claims is being poisoned, does this come from the ocean or is it clean fresh drinking water? ... how much water does the industry claim it uses every year? ... who has to curtail their water consumption during droughts, the residents or the frackers? ...

Kinda sounds like what all research says after 12 years of exploring the extent of the problem.

Whose 12 years of research? ... no way does government or academia finish in that brief a time ... this level of efficiency only comes from business ... [giggle] ... are we trusting the frackers alone to say it's perfectly safe? ...

Just dangerous to LIVE over methane infused ground in the first place..

Horsefeathers ... these methane deposits are sealed under or within impermeable rock ... any and all seepage would have been finished by the beginning of the Triassic ... only when humans puncture the dome or fracture the rock matrix does this highly volatile material escape ... kinda sounds like you're saying the ground water is already bad, so making it worse isn't a problem ...

Which insurance company is underwriting these operations? ... or are we using the mining industry's example and letting the taxpayers a hundred years hence pay for the clean up? ...

Don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy to live a better lifestyle on that backs of our great-great-great-great-grandchildren ... I'll be coyote-food long before the atmosphere cooks ... by the way, how's the plutonium levels in the Tennessee River coming along? ... perfect time for tax-cuts eh? ...