The "things you'll never hear Obama say" thread...

[Soggy in NOLA]

"I can't take a vacation today Michelle, I have to work"

 

[saveliberty]

A few things conservatives, republicans, and libertarians never think about:

You cannot create equality where abject poverty and no opportunity for productive work exist.

Equality is the opportunity that you choose to take. There is opportunity.

You cannot gain self esteem in a corporate world guided only by profit and no concern for working people of America.

Self Esteem comes from within. No corporation can give it to you or take it from you.

You cannot bring about prosperity when only the top few percent of Americans own and control the wealth of a nation that morally belongs to all.

You can if you motivate those people to create jobs and opportunity.

You cannot live well or even rise much about poverty on minimum wage or Walmart wages.

No, you can't. You also can't rise above poverty by raising minimum wage rates. Better get an education or special skills.

You cannot further a spirit of democracy by closed, locked, security gated communities and educational opportunities beyond the reach of working Americans.

I would think those problems would really motivate someone who felt wronged to vote.

You cannot build character and courage by outsourcing the livelihood of American workers.

Actually someone of character and courage would change things.

You can help America by providing educational opportunity and while still recognizing a global world, working to make sure your own nation, on which you have gained your wealth and sustenance, provides for all its people fairly.

Actually, we only need to provide the opportunity. If you want to disengage and live under a bridge, its your choice.

"There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later. Almost all rich nations have higher general taxes than the U.S., and they are growing faster as well." Tax cuts spur economic growth

No, most countries with higher tax rates are currently in economic stress.

The Idolatry of Ideology-Why Tax Cuts Hurt the Economy by Russ Beaton
Spending Cuts Vs. Tax Increases at the State Level, 10/30/01
The rich get rich because of their merit.
The Conservative Nanny State
Newsflash: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes (You Idiots) | Firedoglake


"What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith

Which is why the government shouldn't try to run the economy.

"On moral grounds, then, we could argue for a flat income tax of 90 percent to return that wealth to its real owners. In the United States, even a flat tax of 70 percent would support all governmental programs (about half the total tax) and allow payment, with the remainder, of a patrimony of about $8,000 per annum per inhabitant, or $25,000 for a family of three. This would generously leave with the original recipients of the income about three times what, according to my rough guess, they had earned." UBI and the Flat Tax

On moral grounds. I find that amusing, because that is usually the first thing a liberal will argue against. The opening shot is, who's moral standard?

My stuff in red.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You must understand progressives... in their twisted little minds, your money is theirs... and you get what they decide you are entitled to keep..

Of course, this little axiom never applies to them. Their world is one of constant victimization at the hands of some boogyman.

 

[Meister]

Here are a few to start of:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

"I feel your pain."

 

[iamwhatiseem]

"It is time to admit to ourselves that the polices set forth by the War on Poverty has been an undeniable failure; Poverty won...and yet even after 40 years of failed policies we still are trying to win a war that was lost a long time ago."

 

[rightwinger]

Here are a few to start of:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

Its also something you would never hear Abe Lincoln say

 

[midcan5]

Here are a few to start of:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

These are words no genuine American would use, And Obama being a genuine American would of course not use.

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As our industrial infrastructure collapses....the right continues to whine about slogans that have no relevance to the real world of America today.


"1 in 7 Americans—and 1 in 5 American children—lives in poverty. That’s more than at any time in the last fifteen years." Income - U.S. Census Bureau

'Theoretical Egalitarians'

'Why income distribution can't be crowd-sourced.' By Timothy Noah

"Earlier this month I published a 10-part Slate series (PDF; serial version; slide show) about the 30-year rise in income inequality that Princeton's Paul Krugman has dubbed "The Great Divergence." In the first installment, I noted that in 1915, when the richest 1 percent accounted for about 18 percent of the nation's income, the prospect of class warfare was imminent. Today, the richest 1 percent account for 24 percent of the nation's income, yet the prospect of class warfare is utterly remote. Indeed, the political question foremost in Washington's mind is how thoroughly the political party more closely associated with the working class (that would be the Democrats) will get clobbered in the next election. Why aren't the bottom 99 percent marching in the streets?"

Why income distribution can't be crowd-sourced. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine


'The Enormous Gap Between The Rich and the Rest of Us' by Robert de Neufville

"In a recent post, I argued that the tax burden on the rich is not as great as some would have you believe. It’s not that there is anything wrong with being rich. After all, the idea that with hard work and little luck any of us could make it rich is an integral part of the American Dream. But it’s nevertheless bizarre to imagine that the rich are really the ones suffering—not when the rest of us have been doing so much worse."

The Enormous Gap Between The Rich and the Rest of Us | Politeia | Big Think

"Then there's Stephen Schwarzman, whose $4.1 billion fortune makes him the 69th richest person in the United States, according to Forbes magazine. Schwarzman compared Obama's move to close a tax loophole--one that allows Wall Street investors like Schwarzman to pay only 15 percent in taxes on private equity income, about the same rate as someone making $38,200--to Hitler's invasion of Poland."

Super-rich and super-angry | SocialistWorker.org

 

[midcan5]

On moral grounds. I find that amusing, because that is usually the first thing a liberal will argue against. The opening shot is, who's moral standard?

My stuff in red.

Nothing you wrote in red has ever created a job nor done something positive for America. They are slogans and people do not live in slogans, they live in the world as it exists.

 

[Oddball]

On moral grounds. I find that amusing, because that is usually the first thing a liberal will argue against. The opening shot is, who's moral standard?

My stuff in red.

Nothing you wrote in red has ever created a job nor done something positive for America. They are slogans and people do not live in slogans, they live in the world as it exists.

Hope...

Change...

"We are the ones we've been waiting for."

"Change doesn't come from Washington, change comes to Washington."

Try paying your bills with those gems, Buckwheat.

 

[Zander]

I made a mistake.

It was my fault.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

"Sell my golf clubs."
"Take out the basketball court."

 

[barry_soetoro]

Exactly who is Barack Obama?

 

[gautama]

The Tea Party is the VOICE of Mainstream America.

 

[saveliberty]

So is Bill this good Hillary?

 

[The Rabbi]

My policies have failed all of America.

 

[ConHog]

My wife IS an uppity bitch

 

[iamwhatiseem]

"The beer summit was a genuine desire on my part to sit down with a few guys and talk things out, I had no political motives for doing it...I really am so dumb to think all I had to do to win over mainstream America was a photo op with beer in plastic cups."

 

[driveby]

A few things conservatives, republicans, and libertarians never think about:

You cannot create equality where abject poverty and no opportunity for productive work exist.

You cannot gain self esteem in a corporate world guided only by profit and no concern for working people of America.

You cannot bring about prosperity when only the top few percent of Americans own and control the wealth of a nation that morally belongs to all.

You cannot live well or even rise much about poverty on minimum wage or Walmart wages.

You cannot further a spirit of democracy by closed, locked, security gated communities and educational opportunities beyond the reach of working Americans.

You cannot build character and courage by outsourcing the livelihood of American workers.

You can help America by providing educational opportunity and while still recognizing a global world, working to make sure your own nation, on which you have gained your wealth and sustenance, provides for all its people fairly.


"There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later. Almost all rich nations have higher general taxes than the U.S., and they are growing faster as well." Tax cuts spur economic growth

The Idolatry of Ideology-Why Tax Cuts Hurt the Economy by Russ Beaton
Spending Cuts Vs. Tax Increases at the State Level, 10/30/01
The rich get rich because of their merit.
The Conservative Nanny State
Newsflash: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes (You Idiots) | Firedoglake


"What improves the circumstances of the greater part can never be regarded as an inconveniency to the whole. No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith



"On moral grounds, then, we could argue for a flat income tax of 90 percent to return that wealth to its real owners. In the United States, even a flat tax of 70 percent would support all governmental programs (about half the total tax) and allow payment, with the remainder, of a patrimony of about $8,000 per annum per inhabitant, or $25,000 for a family of three. This would generously leave with the original recipients of the income about three times what, according to my rough guess, they had earned." UBI and the Flat Tax

Sincerely,

Hugo Chavez

 

[driveby]

Here are a few to start of:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

Its also something you would never hear Abe Lincoln say

Or FDR .....

 

[Flopper]

The Tea Party is the VOICE of Mainstream America.

If that's so, then 21st century looks pretty bleak for the US.