The things we could do, if only...

[ClosedCaption]

if Apple paid their fair share in taxes, we could have used that money to send 1 million kids to Head Start. Sending 1 million kids to Head Start could have a social benefit of more than $81 billion.

 

[DiamondDave]

The use of the subjective 'fair'.. the assumption of dodging.. and the myth that monetary benefit grows exponentially with a big POOF when government spending hands out shit..

Yep... it is a winger troll post

 

[Katzndogz]

As head start was a failure, it doesn't matter that more kids didn't enroll in a flop.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If only they could have avoided more.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

if Apple paid their fair share in taxes, we could have used that money to send 1 million kids to Head Start. Sending 1 million kids to Head Start could have a social benefit of more than $81 billion.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) just released its latest batch of Head Start data, revealing, once again, that its students are receiving far less than a “head start.”

The study, which was finally released the weekend before Christmas after more than a year’s delay, examines the third-grade outcomes of two groups of Head Start students: those who began the program at age three and another who began at age four.

In 2010, HHS released a similar report looking at first-grade outcomes. Both studies show similar results: Not only does Head Start have no impact on children’s academic outcomes, but it also has little to no impact on other measures of child well-being and, in some cases, even has some negative impacts.

In a newly released paper, Heritage’s Lindsey Burke and David Muhlhausen discuss the findings, summarized as follows:

•Cognitive development. Of 11 measures of cognitive ability—including reading, language, and math ability—access to Head Start made no difference for either three- or four-year-old students on any outcomes.
•Social-emotional development. Of 19 measures of social-emotional development—such as aggression, hyperactive behavior, and conduct problems—for the three-year-old cohort, access to Head Start was connected to a slight benefit in “social skills and positive approaches to learning,” as reported by parents, but it had no impact on any of the other outcomes. For four-year-olds, Head Start was associated with a small decrease in aggressive behavior but also appeared to be significantly linked to harmful impacts, including higher teacher reports of “an unfavorable impact on the incidence of children’s emotional symptoms,” as well as poorer peer relations.
•Child health outcomes. Of five measures of health outcomes, Head Start made no difference for either group, including no impact on “receipt of dental care, health insurance coverage, and overall child health status being excellent or good.”
•Parenting outcomes. Of the 10 measures of parental outcomes, Head Start appeared to have only one benefit for each group. Parents of the three-year-old cohort reported higher levels of authoritative parenting, and parents of the four-year-old cohort reported spending more time with their children.

After five decades, Head Start continues to default on its aim to boost school readiness. In addition to the program’s overall ineffectiveness, there are government reports of fraud in the program. Yet Head Start continues to receive billions of taxpayer dollars every year. Since Head Start began, more than $180 billion taxpayer dollars have been spent to fund it—and Congress is currently contemplating allocating millions of extra dollars to the program through the supplemental aid package for Hurricane Sandy victims.

“In the interest of children and taxpayers, it’s time for this nearly half-century experiment to come to an end,” write Burke and Muhlhausen. But if it must continue, they note, reform is necessary. “If the federal government continues to fund Head Start, policymakers should allow states to make their Head Start dollars portable, following children to a private preschool provider of choice.”

 

[Wacky Quacky]

You can't blame Apple for simply doing what's legal. You should be directing your anger towards politicians, both left and right, for creating the bullshit tax code we have.

It's especially hypocritical and infuriating that our elected officials are grilling Apple for doing what they themselves allow Apple to do.

 

[akelch]

if Apple paid their fair share in taxes, we could have used that money to send 1 million kids to Head Start. Sending 1 million kids to Head Start could have a social benefit of more than $81 billion.

Did Apple not follow the tax code? Did they break any laws?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Closed is a moron...first it's a liberal company that voted and supported Obama, so hypocrits, oh well

and second why do you think more money solves problems? First get results with the money you use now.

 

[dblack]

This is an interesting topic to me. I'm in total agreement that the tax code is a sham, and that to the extent possible, everyone should have to pay their share.

The thing is, the exemptions, deductions, incentives, credits, rebates, etc, etc, etc that companies like Apple use to minimize their tax bill are written by Congress. Arguably, depending on the company in question, corporations often lobby aggressively for the perks. But does it really make any sense to demonize them when our elected representatives are the true culprits?

 

[ClosedCaption]

If only they could have avoided more.

And that helps America how?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Closed is a moron...first it's a liberal company that voted and supported Obama, so hypocrits, oh well

and second why do you think more money solves problems? First get results with the money you use now.

Why do you think this was a point? Its' just general hand wringing, you know, you don't HAVE to type something don't you?

 

[akelch]

You can't blame Apple for simply doing what's legal. You should be directing your anger towards politicians, both left and right, for creating the bullshit tax code we have.

It's especially hypocritical and infuriating that our elected officials are grilling Apple for doing what they themselves allow Apple to do.

And what they (elected officials) do themselves.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

if Apple paid their fair share in taxes, we could have used that money to send 1 million kids to Head Start. Sending 1 million kids to Head Start could have a social benefit of more than $81 billion.

Why do we need to send a million kids to head start and on what grounds are these claims of an $81 billion economic benefit being made?

 

[ClosedCaption]

You can't blame Apple for simply doing what's legal. You should be directing your anger towards politicians, both left and right, for creating the bullshit tax code we have.
It's especially hypocritical and infuriating that our elected officials are grilling Apple for doing what they themselves allow Apple to do.

All true but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to have a problem with it.

Legal or illegal is not the point, No one likes everything that is legal. But you know that and that's the easiest response to give

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is an interesting topic to me. I'm in total agreement that the tax code is a sham, and that to the extent possible, everyone should have to pay their share.

The thing is, the exemptions, deductions, incentives, credits, rebates, etc, etc, etc that companies like Apple use to minimize their tax bill are written by Congress. Arguably, depending on the company in question, corporations often lobby aggressively for the perks. But does it really make any sense to demonize them when our elected representatives are the true culprits?

That's what I found so amusing about this dog and pony show put on by the Senate yesterday. They were deriding Apple for using the very tax breaks they, the Congress, created. It's total hypocrisy and Rand Paul was the only one on the panel who pointed it out during the hearing. Ironically, Apple is a big liberal company and the biggest libertarian on the committee, whom they probably loathe, was the only one standing up for them.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You can't blame Apple for simply doing what's legal. You should be directing your anger towards politicians, both left and right, for creating the bullshit tax code we have.
It's especially hypocritical and infuriating that our elected officials are grilling Apple for doing what they themselves allow Apple to do.

All true but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to have a problem with it.

Legal or illegal is not the point, No one likes everything that is legal. But you know that and that's the easiest response to give

Oh please it's people like you that love this complicated piece of shit, because you're going to "get" the rich guys, all the while they're laughing at you...

make it simple and to the point....flat tax, no deductions, problem solved

 

[DGS49]

How ironic that the poster chose "Head Start" as an example of what could have been done?

Ignoring the fact that the BEST thing that could have been done with the additional money was NOTHING, and merely use it to reduce our horrific deficits,...

HeadStart is a proven failure. As noted above, even the Gub'mint has concluded that its benefit is so slight as not to be capable of measurement. While acknowledging that it does provide free babysitting, and jobs for tens of thousands of "teachers" who are otherwise unemployable, it was originally sold on the premise that "disadvantaged" kids did poorly in school because their environment as not "culturally enriched," as Middle Class kids' were, so if we only provided these intellectual stimuli at an early age, the "achievement gap" between Rich and Poor would go away.

Outside the public sector, any executive to perpetuated a program that was such a conspicuous and collossal failure would be fired, then shot.

 

[RDD_1210]

You can't blame Apple for simply doing what's legal. You should be directing your anger towards politicians, both left and right, for creating the bullshit tax code we have.
It's especially hypocritical and infuriating that our elected officials are grilling Apple for doing what they themselves allow Apple to do.

All true but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to have a problem with it.

Legal or illegal is not the point, No one likes everything that is legal. But you know that and that's the easiest response to give

Oh please it's people like you that love this complicated piece of shit, because you're going to "get" the rich guys, all the while they're laughing at you...

make it simple and to the point....flat tax, no deductions, problem solved

Simple ideas from simple minds.

 

[Pete7469]

Bed wetting drivel...

Yeah, lets reward failing schools with more stolen money. GREAT GODDAMNED IDEA!!! And when the schools get worse, we'll pay the teachers even more!!

How about we pay the teachers to stay home? That might actually be productive!


By the way asshole, GE paid ZERO taxes, but that doesn't bother you since your moonbat messiah is supported by them. It probably has escaped your attention, like all reality escapes sniveling dipshit liberals, that Apple broke NO LAW, neither did GE. Yet your beloved masters who wrote the tax laws put on a show for you, and you mindlessly cheer them on, and gladly pay for admission.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If only they could have avoided more.

And that helps America how?

Giving Apple more resources to innovate and create new products for the benefit of all mankind, rather than wasting it on criminally insane sociopaths so they can build more drones to blow up villages in Yemen.