The stock market

[eflatminor]

A bunch of do nothing, screw the country, greedy ass mf'rs. Go to hell.How much is enough? Fu. You need to be watched and regulated just like a bunch of children so you dont fk the country up...oooops...to late. Class war comin....

Greedy? You do understand that the majority of Americans are invested in stock markets, right? Are the majority of Americans greedy for doing so?

Fk the country? How is investing in businesses, our job creators, fk'ing anyone?

Sounds like someone's simply jealous of success he didn't achieve.

Class war, eh? Try bringing that shit up my driveway.

 

[eflatminor]

The stock market doesnt do anything for the economy. The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take. Thats what unfettered capitalism does. Dont you know what builds a healthy economy? Working people do. Look it up.

My God you're dumb.

Let's have a little business 101 lesson. Exactly how do you think "working people" get a job in the first place? They do when businesses are able to raise capital to invest in their operations. No capital, no business, no jobs.

Those companies raise capital by selling shares of stock. The best place to value the worth of those shares are stock markets. Without them, companies could raise capital only from very rich individual investors that could supply significant chunks of money. Stock markets simply allow lots of people to invest.

By your reasoning, only the top one percenters should be able to invest in companies and no one else.

Ironic, and incredibly ignorant.

Good luck with that.

 

[eflatminor]

Whats comin? When unfettered capitalism has devoured everything and pushed people to their limit?...what do YOU think will happen?

In lieu of capitalism, you propose what?

Socialism? How's that working out in Venezuela?
Communism? Talk about devouring everything and pushing people to their limits! Of course, the Soviet Union is still thriving, right?
So what is it to be?

By chance is your idea so darn good, it would have to be MANDATORY?

I'm guessing yes, whatever nonsense you're about the spew.

 

[eflatminor]

The crash is comin and your causing it. Its comin sure as the sun will rise. And so will the subsequent. You stupid, greedy people dont even realise...the ruling elite want YOUR money too. They wont stop till they get it. And they'll get...Lol, your shitting on your own face and cant even see it.

Lots of vile hyperbole, little on solutions.

Let's hear it genius. How do you suggest businesses find the capital that creates jobs?

This ought to be awesome!

 

[Windship]

The stock market doesnt do anything for the economy. The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take. Thats what unfettered capitalism does. Dont you know what builds a healthy economy? Working people do. Look it up.

The stock market doesnt do anything for the economy.

Wrong, Commie breath.

The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take.

How does it do that?

Thats what unfettered capitalism does.

Unfettered capitalism ≠ the stock market
The stock market ≠ unfettered capitalism

Dont you know what builds a healthy economy? Working people do.

Don't Cuba and Venezuela have working people?
How are their economies doing?

Lol, you cant see the difference? or you just playing dumb for sake of your point?
Explain to me why our economy grew after the industrial revolution and became the world superpower and number one consumer ...CONSUMER... nation?The working class fought for and won what never should have been denied to them. They were payed well enough to spend and acquire credit. Thats what builds a strong economy. Whats your spin?

 

[Windship]

1900-1970. Ended with prosperity for all.
1971-2016. Con tinuing with prosperity for the ruling elite and corporations.
What did we do different after 1970. Want me to list it all....be a pain in the butt, but I will if ya want an education. But...you already know it.
Im not one of your uneducated, ignorant sheep. Ill bury you with facts and truth as you hang on to your traitorous rantings.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The stock market doesnt do anything for the economy. The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take. Thats what unfettered capitalism does. Dont you know what builds a healthy economy? Working people do. Look it up.

The stock market doesnt do anything for the economy.

Wrong, Commie breath.

The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take.

How does it do that?

Thats what unfettered capitalism does.

Unfettered capitalism ≠ the stock market
The stock market ≠ unfettered capitalism

Dont you know what builds a healthy economy? Working people do.

Don't Cuba and Venezuela have working people?
How are their economies doing?

Lol, you cant see the difference? or you just playing dumb for sake of your point?
Explain to me why our economy grew after the industrial revolution and became the world superpower and number one consumer ...CONSUMER... nation?The working class fought for and won what never should have been denied to them. They were payed well enough to spend and acquire credit. Thats what builds a strong economy. Whats your spin?

Lol, you cant see the difference?

Yes, I can see the difference between the failure of Cuba and Venezuela and the success of the US.
Can you?

Whats your spin?

Pointing out your idiocy is anti-spin, eh comrade?

The stock market takes and takes and takes till there nothing left to take

You never answered....how?

 

[RoshanNair]

As someone who studied and has been employed in finance (I-banking) over the past 6 years.....I'm triggered by these moronic threads.

This poster is probably a middle-schooler parroting the words of his far-left social studies teacher. Nothing else could explain such a rudimentary grasp on corporate finance. I have had more substantive conversations on this topic with attractive starbucks baristas.....

 

[WheelieAddict]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

 

[Andylusion]

ok so Ill buy 17usd worth of that stock. Now, Ive just spent thegas money on an investment that will pay me a 300% profit!!...in about 2 years. If you think working ppl can invest enough money to MAKE money?...you have the mind of a child.

First off........ LOL........ Never say to someone "you have the mind of a child", directly after typing "ppl" because "people" was too difficult.

Just trying to help you out. You want to be taken seriously.... You can't be so ignorant, as to type "ppl" and then call people names. Friendly advice

Second.... Both of my parents were public school teachers. They now have a net-worth over a million dollars. And half of that is in stocks in the stock market.

In fact, the vast majority of the stocks in this world today, are owned by the public, or are owned as retirement for the public.

35% is owned by private households.
20% is owned by mutual funds, 401Ks, Roth 401Ks, IRAs, and Roth IRAs.
9% is owned by Pension funds, usually for Union pensions.
8% owned by government pension funds. This would be 403b plans for government workers.

71% of the market is owned by the public, and by retirement plans that benefit the public.

If you eliminated the stock market, not only would you harm the companies, and workers whose jobs exist because of the stock market..... but you would also ruin possibly hundreds of millions of people, particularly the elderly that depend on their retirement plans and pensions.

 

[Andylusion]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

 

[WheelieAddict]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

Uh huh:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

Greenspan Admits Free Market Ideology Flawed

Is Greenspan himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed enough for you to admit you are full of shit?

 

[xband]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

Uh huh:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

Greenspan Admits Free Market Ideology Flawed

Is Greenspan himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed enough for you to admit you are full of shit?

The stock market is in a bubble and the bubble can either grow or bust.

 

[Andylusion]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

Uh huh:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

Greenspan Admits Free Market Ideology Flawed

Is Greenspan himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed enough for you to admit you are full of shit?

No. Of course not. If you tell me that you believe in vegetarianism, and then I see you eating steak every day, then you have an ulcer, and get on TV and proclaim that your faith in vegetarianism was flawed...... that just makes you a hypocrite.

Greenspan did not practice what he preached. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter what he said, when he didn't practice what he said.

Greenspan's actions didn't match his words. He was extreme interventionist. He interfered with the markets constantly. Even Joseph Stiglitz who was economic advisor to Bill Clinton in the 1990s, said this.

Analysis - The Alan Greenspan Era | The Warning | FRONTLINE | PBS

Greenspan, remember, always said that he was a believer in Ayn Rand, a believer in free market. Little bit curious for a central banker, because what is central banking? It's a massive intervention in the market, setting interest rates. So to me, that kind of perspective, to say, "I believe in free markets, but I'm going to accept the job at central banking," is a contradiction. You almost have to be schizophrenic.
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And he was schizophrenic. I believe in free-markets, so I'm going to take a massive government interventionist position, and screw with markets throughout the entire country. Which is exactly what he did.

So when the system blew up and Greenspan, who hasn't practiced a free-market in the last 20 years, says "his free market ideology was flawed".... that has zero credibility. You have to practice a free-market first, before you can claim it is flawed or doesn't work.

 

[Andylusion]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

Uh huh:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

Greenspan Admits Free Market Ideology Flawed

Is Greenspan himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed enough for you to admit you are full of shit?

The stock market is in a bubble and the bubble can either grow or bust.

By what measurement, do you believe the stock market is currently in a bubble?

 

[WheelieAddict]

The stock market is part of capitalism in the USA and it certainly should not be eliminated. It should however be regulated and not be given free reign with the assumption it will regulate itself being a free market. Failures like Alan Greenspan tried this approach with capitalism and it backfired spectacularly.

Alan Greenspan did not by any stretch, have a free-market ideology. While he spoke about free-markets often, he did not as Fed Chair, enact free-markets. He was extremely interventionist in his approach.

Further, the 'failure' was in fact caused by regulation. The government forced, and incentivised banks to make bad loans, which created the bubble. There was nothing capitalist or free-market about it.

Uh huh:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

Greenspan Admits Free Market Ideology Flawed

Is Greenspan himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed enough for you to admit you are full of shit?

No. Of course not. If you tell me that you believe in vegetarianism, and then I see you eating steak every day, then you have an ulcer, and get on TV and proclaim that your faith in vegetarianism was flawed...... that just makes you a hypocrite.

Greenspan did not practice what he preached. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter what he said, when he didn't practice what he said.

Greenspan's actions didn't match his words. He was extreme interventionist. He interfered with the markets constantly. Even Joseph Stiglitz who was economic advisor to Bill Clinton in the 1990s, said this.

Analysis - The Alan Greenspan Era | The Warning | FRONTLINE | PBS

Greenspan, remember, always said that he was a believer in Ayn Rand, a believer in free market. Little bit curious for a central banker, because what is central banking? It's a massive intervention in the market, setting interest rates. So to me, that kind of perspective, to say, "I believe in free markets, but I'm going to accept the job at central banking," is a contradiction. You almost have to be schizophrenic.
​

And he was schizophrenic. I believe in free-markets, so I'm going to take a massive government interventionist position, and screw with markets throughout the entire country. Which is exactly what he did.

So when the system blew up and Greenspan, who hasn't practiced a free-market in the last 20 years, says "his free market ideology was flawed".... that has zero credibility. You have to practice a free-market first, before you can claim it is flawed or doesn't work.

That's some hilarious spin! Bahaha! Yeah the man himself admitting his free market ideology was flawed is false because he controlled interest rates. Greenspan an "extreme interventionist"? That's friggin hilarious! But by all means, continue your delusion and bullshitting to try and justify your ridgid ideology of stupidity. Morons like you would destroy our economy again. You will never learn.

 

[WheelieAddict]

"Greenspan, 82, acknowledged under questioning that he had made a “mistake” in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest, would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and institutions. Greenspan called that “a flaw in the model ... that defines how the world works.”

Yeah what an "extreme interventionist" he was. rofl!

 

[WheelieAddict]

 

[WheelieAddict]

 

[Windship]

Dig this you jerks. Lol, you think the corporations will let you keep your 100,400 or 800thousand dollar bank accounts...gues what/...they want YOUR money to! Truth is is that if your not part of those 62 families that run the world,...you and I are going to be in the same boat....but your greed has blinded you. I siggest you watch this: