Zone1 The statement “The Jews” is weird and against history

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Yeah, so how many times do people say “The Protestants” like ie “Why is this happening to the protestants or what have the protestants done to deserve this or that”

Not much if at all …

But “The Jews” is used and it’s often used by Zionists. It is used in various capacities. But it doesn’t make any sense because for example when Zionism started gaining any sort of ground it wasn’t popular among Jewish people. Something like 1% of British Jews migrated to Palestine in the early 20th century, and the numbers were very very low even after World War II. The majority of Jewish people today live outside of Israel.

This is because Jews Are a massive integral part of many countries of the world and have been for many generations. Like in America Jews are 100% a part of the American fabric. They are great people they contribute to the country. They have the same struggles and achievements as American Christians or Muslims you name it.

Zionism was something that sought to literally bring every Jew to Israel. That is a movement that has been in a large part responsible for using terms like “the Jews” in various capacities, often for political gains.

Ok sure saying something like the Jews makes sense sometimes but they are not one body. Like for example, sure there are some similarities between Catholics all around the world, but obviously you have your Irish Catholics you have your Spanish Catholics you have your American Catholics all with their own unique identities within their own country.

 

[Darkwind]

Yeah, so how many times do people say “The Protestants” like ie “Why is this happening to the protestants or what have the protestants done to deserve this or that”

Not much if at all …

But “The Jews” is used and it’s often used by Zionists. It is used in various capacities. But it doesn’t make any sense because for example when Zionism started gaining any sort of ground it wasn’t popular among Jewish people. Something like 1% of British Jews migrated to Palestine in the early 20th century, and the numbers were very very low even after World War II. The majority of Jewish people today live outside of Israel.

This is because Jews Are a massive integral part of many countries of the world and have been for many generations. Like in America Jews are 100% a part of the American fabric. They are great people they contribute to the country. They have the same struggles and achievements as American Christians or Muslims you name it.

Zionism was something that sought to literally bring every Jew to Israel. That is a movement that has been in a large part responsible for using terms like “the Jews” in various capacities, often for political gains.

Ok sure saying something like the Jews makes sense sometimes but they are not one body. Like for example, sure there are some similarities between Catholics all around the world, but obviously you have your Irish Catholics you have your Spanish Catholics you have your American Catholics all with their own unique identities within their own country.

You are wrong about this statement:

Zionism was something that sought to literally bring every Jew to Israel.

Zionism seeks to restore a Jewish homeland for Jews to return to, if they so desire.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You are wrong about this statement:

Zionism was something that sought to literally bring every Jew to Israel.

Zionism seeks to restore a Jewish homeland for Jews to return to, if they so desire.

Zionist leaders have been on record, calling for all Jews to return to Israel.

But either way, let’s forget about that point or agree with you. Point still stands when do we hear someone say “the protestants”?

Anyway nothing wrong with folks who are Zionists or pro Israel just making a point here. Interesting stuff.

 

[PeterPilot]

Any group that claims it is superior to other human groups is full of it.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Jews are an ethnicity.

Only the most hardened antisemites say otherwise

 

[Polishprince]

Zionism is an essential part of Judaism, separating Jews from Zionists is a phony construct. Pretending the Jews are "good" but Zionists are "bad" is a load of shit.

Jeremiah 16:15-16

But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.


Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the Lord, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Yeah, so how many times do people say “The Protestants” like ie “Why is this happening to the protestants or what have the protestants done to deserve this or that”

Not much if at all …

But “The Jews” is used and it’s often used by Zionists. It is used in various capacities. But it doesn’t make any sense because for example when Zionism started gaining any sort of ground it wasn’t popular among Jewish people. Something like 1% of British Jews migrated to Palestine in the early 20th century, and the numbers were very very low even after World War II. The majority of Jewish people today live outside of Israel.

This is because Jews Are a massive integral part of many countries of the world and have been for many generations. Like in America Jews are 100% a part of the American fabric. They are great people they contribute to the country. They have the same struggles and achievements as American Christians or Muslims you name it.

Zionism was something that sought to literally bring every Jew to Israel. That is a movement that has been in a large part responsible for using terms like “the Jews” in various capacities, often for political gains.

Ok sure saying something like the Jews makes sense sometimes but they are not one body. Like for example, sure there are some similarities between Catholics all around the world, but obviously you have your Irish Catholics you have your Spanish Catholics you have your American Catholics all with their own unique identities within their own country.

You can be a Jew and not a Zionist. You can be a Zionist and not a Jew.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Any group that claims it is superior to other human groups is full of it.

Yes, you virtue signalers are full of shit.

......especially when you make up shit in order to express your obvious antisemitism.

 

[PeterPilot]

Yes, you virtue signalers are full of shit.

......especially when you make up shit in order to express your obvious antisemitism.

No, I was thinking of the biblical claim that the Jews are superior to all other races, and charged by "the Lord" to plunder and rape, kill and steal, in his name.

 

[rosends]

No, I was thinking of the biblical claim that the Jews are superior to all other races,

can you show me the biblical text which affirms this?

 

[PeterPilot]

can you show me the biblical text which affirms this?

Deuteronomy 7 and 20, some in Genesis and in other locations in the Torah/OT

 

[rosends]

Deuteronomy 7 and 20, some in Genesis and in other locations in the Torah/OT

I just went through Deut 7 and didn't see any claim of superiority. Can you quote a verse that supports your claim?

 

[PeterPilot]

I just went through Deut 7 and didn't see any claim of superiority. Can you quote a verse that supports your claim?

You're being dishonest Rosie. As an agnostic, I've checked out the D7 piece in 3 different bibles in the last 5 months.

 

[rosends]

You're being dishonest Rosie. As an agnostic, I've checked out the D7 piece in 3 different bibles in the last 5 months.

How am I being dishonest? Here, use what I used and find me something that supports your claim.

Deuteronomy 7:10

but who instantly requites with destruction those who reject [God]—never slow with those who reject, but requiting them...

www.sefaria.org

it shouldn't be tough.

 

[PeterPilot]

rosends

When defending a lie one must be dishonest.

 

[rosends]

rosends

When defending a lie one must be dishonest.

is that how you justify making a claim you cannot support textually?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, I was thinking of the biblical claim that the Jews are superior to all other races, and charged by "the Lord" to plunder and rape, kill and steal, in his name.

Doubling down on the antisemitism I see

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, you virtue signalers are full of shit.

......especially when you make up shit in order to express your obvious antisemitism.

I continue to be alarmed by the degree of antisemitism on this site. It echos what’s happening IRL.

 

[Cassandro]

"The Jews" is not a "statement."

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, so how many times do people say “The Protestants” like ie “Why is this happening to the protestants or what have the protestants done to deserve this or that”

Not much if at all …

Imho, that's true in America, but few Americans know about the Protestant participation in the "Black and Tans" role first in Northern Ireland and later in Palestine:

Black and Tans - Wikipedia

"The Black and Tans (Irish: Dúchrónaigh) were constables recruited into the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) as reinforcements during the Irish War of Independence.

"Recruitment began in Great Britain in January 1920, and about 10,000 men enlisted during the conflict.

"The majority were unemployed former British soldiers from England, Scotland and Wales who had fought in the First World War.

"Some sources count Irish recruits to the RIC from 1920 as 'Black and Tans'."

"The Black and Tans had a reputation for brutality; they committed murder, arson and looting and became notorious for reprisal attacks on civilians and civilian property."

The terror the Black and Tans inflicted on Catholics in Northern Ireland was replicated in Palestine with an added racial animus towards indigenous Palestinians.

“Going Beserk”: “Black and Tans” in Palestine