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Is that you expressing admiration for a foreign adversary, Tovarich?
Well done, extra bread ration for you ...
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Is that you expressing admiration for a foreign adversary, Tovarich?
Well done, extra bread ration for you ...
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No, expressing the reality of what we will see in real world politics. Neither in intellect nor knowledge base is Trump a match for Putin. Romney, Clinton, McCain, all would be, but Trump most definately is not.
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So, you agree with Trump's ass kissup to Putin? Looks like the above picture is a referance to you.
Yet you support a hostile foreign power acting against the institutions and government of our country. That's called treason asshole.
THE NEW HEROES OF TRUMP'S NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY?
Big Think Top Five: Notorious Russian Spy Incidents
Ten people were arrested in the suburbs of New York, Boston, and northern Virginia last week, accused of being part of an elaborate Russian spy ring. According to the New York Times, the group's work has all the requisite elements of Soviet-era espionage: "excellent training, cutting-edge gadgetry, deep knowledge of American culture and meticulously constructed cover stories." The Associated Press reports today that it's likely now that the spies will be released in an exchange to free American spies held in Russia,
While the 10 caught spies haven't become household names yet, there have been quite a few notorious Russian spies and espionage rings caught over the last century in the U.S. and Britain. Here are our top five:
1. The Cambridge Five - In 1934, three Cambridge undergraduates, seduced by the the proletarian idealism of communism, were recruited by Soviet intelligence (possibly via philosopher and Cambridge professor Ludwig Wittgenstein). They, in turn, convinced two or more of their peers to join them in infiltrating British government and intelligence agencies before, during, and after the Second World War. Most successful among them was Kim Philby, described by his Soviet handler as "the greatest spy of the century" whose position within MI6 compromised the identity of nearly every British spy working in the Soviet Union. Philby, along with most of his cohorts, defected to the Soviet Union before he could be apprehended.
2. Aldrich Ames - Of all the moles to have infiltrated the C.I.A., Aldrich Ames's work was the most devastating. Over the course of 9 years, Ames revealed the identity of every single U.S. agent in the Soviet Union, leading to the deaths of 10 U.S. assets. In doing so he became the highest-paid spy in U.S. history, receiving over $4.6 million. His motivation seems to have been purely financial, as he had grown accustomed to living well beyond his means (thanks in part to a demanding mistress). He is now serving a life sentence in prison.
3. Klaus Fuchs - Fuchs is known as worst atomic spy in U.S. history. A German-born British physicist, Fuchs played an instrumental role in the Manhattan Project. Within months of joining in the work, he began passing those nuclear secrets to a Soviet handler code-named Raymond. A devoted communist, his motivation was to further the people's revolution, and he relied on what he called a "controlled schizophrenia," which enabled him to betray those closest to him. Fuchs was captured in Britain in 1950, and his statements helped to implicate Julius Rosenberg in a greater post-war espionage ring. After 9 years in a British prison, Fuchs was released to East Germany, where he lived a free man until his death in 1988.
4. Robert Hanssen - A former FBI agent who spied for the Soviets starting in 1979, Hanssen divulged state secrets in exchange for cash and diamonds for the next 22 years. When he was captured in 2001, the Department of Justice called his treason "potentially the worst intelligence disaster in the history of the U.S." On the surface, Hanssen was conservative and devoutly Catholic, but when he was caught it was revealed that he frequented strip clubs and videotaped sex with his wife to share with friends. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. Aldrich Ames and Hanssen were active spies for much of the same time, and Ames's arrest in 1994 helped lead to authorities to Hanssen.
5. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - The Rosenbergs were the first American citizens to be executed for espionage. There is no doubt that Julius was a spy, but the choice to execute this Jewish couple is still thought controversial: had it not been for McCarthy-era anti-Communist hysteria, they would most likely not have received the death penalty. Accused of passing atomic information to the Soviets, the Rosenbergs were tried in the months following the detonation of the first Soviet atomic bomb, Senator McCarthy's claim that Soviets had infiltrated the government, and the onset of the Korean war.
Big Think Top Five: Notorious Russian Spy Incidents
Ten people were arrested in the suburbs of New York, Boston, and northern Virginia last week, accused of being part of an elaborate Russian spy ring. According to the New York Times, the group's work has all the requisite elements of Soviet-era espionage: "excellent training, cutting-edge gadgetry, deep knowledge of American culture and meticulously constructed cover stories." The Associated Press reports today that it's likely now that the spies will be released in an exchange to free American spies held in Russia,
While the 10 caught spies haven't become household names yet, there have been quite a few notorious Russian spies and espionage rings caught over the last century in the U.S. and Britain. Here are our top five:
1. The Cambridge Five - In 1934, three Cambridge undergraduates, seduced by the the proletarian idealism of communism, were recruited by Soviet intelligence (possibly via philosopher and Cambridge professor Ludwig Wittgenstein). They, in turn, convinced two or more of their peers to join them in infiltrating British government and intelligence agencies before, during, and after the Second World War. Most successful among them was Kim Philby, described by his Soviet handler as "the greatest spy of the century" whose position within MI6 compromised the identity of nearly every British spy working in the Soviet Union. Philby, along with most of his cohorts, defected to the Soviet Union before he could be apprehended.
3. Klaus Fuchs - Fuchs is known as worst atomic spy in U.S. history. A German-born British physicist, Fuchs played an instrumental role in the Manhattan Project. Within months of joining in the work, he began passing those nuclear secrets to a Soviet handler code-named Raymond. A devoted communist, his motivation was to further the people's revolution, and he relied on what he called a "controlled schizophrenia," which enabled him to betray those closest to him. Fuchs was captured in Britain in 1950, and his statements helped to implicate Julius Rosenberg in a greater post-war espionage ring. After 9 years in a British prison, Fuchs was released to East Germany, where he lived a free man until his death in 1988.
4. Robert Hanssen - A former FBI agent who spied for the Soviets starting in 1979, Hanssen divulged state secrets in exchange for cash and diamonds for the next 22 years. When he was captured in 2001, the Department of Justice called his treason "potentially the worst intelligence disaster in the history of the U.S." On the surface, Hanssen was conservative and devoutly Catholic, but when he was caught it was revealed that he frequented strip clubs and videotaped sex with his wife to share with friends. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. Aldrich Ames and Hanssen were active spies for much of the same time, and Ames's arrest in 1994 helped lead to authorities to Hanssen.
5. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - The Rosenbergs were the first American citizens to be executed for espionage. There is no doubt that Julius was a spy, but the choice to execute this Jewish couple is still thought controversial: had it not been for McCarthy-era anti-Communist hysteria, they would most likely not have received the death penalty. Accused of passing atomic information to the Soviets, the Rosenbergs were tried in the months following the detonation of the first Soviet atomic bomb, Senator McCarthy's claim that Soviets had infiltrated the government, and the onset of the Korean war.
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This just goes to show us all how politics influence science.
Scientists can't be trusted either.
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You are so full of shit that I don't see how you can face yourself....putin is an individual...an individual who is not as leftist as hillary clinton...you and yours are the ones sho hate the constitution...who claim to believe that it is a "living" document and want to change whatever you don't like about it....it is you and yours who seek to create a permanent welfare state.....if you were to ask the founders who is more dangerous to the nation they founded...an individual, or modern liberalism as represented by hillary et al, I suppose they would say you and yours are the danger...and I suppose you and yours would have found yourselves being tried for insurrection long ago....
the idea of any liberal calling someone else treasonous is frankly laughable...
My god you have to be the most dishonest, unethical, idiotic fool I have ever met. Besides the fact that Putin is the dictatorial leader of Russia, the hacking of the DNC and Podesta was an act of the Russian government. Supporting the acts of a hostile foreign power to harm this nation is treason. Your comments - and Trumps - are traitorous.
Absolute nonsense. And, you miss the subtle point that Hillary Clinton is a US citizen who has, in fact, spent her entire adult life in the service of THIS nation, while Vladimir Putin is the former head of the KGB and leader of a nation hostile to the interests of the United States. This is the stupidest commentary I think I've ever read on any topic. Of course, this is coming from the center of intelligent matter than can violate relativity, so perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.
I've sworn allegiance to the Constitution. The Constitution contains the method by which it can be amended. Our Bill of Rights are the result of the process. If you do not support amendment, you do not support the Constitution.
The idea of an arch conservative American supporting the leader of communist Russia over our institutions of democracy and favoring him above an American presidential candidate who actually won the popular election by 2.9 million votes ought to be unthinkable. Yet, here we are.
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Bullshit crick...absolute bullshit....
but I will say again that you liberals are f'ing funny when you get your panties in a twist....oh how you love to be offended, and rail with your fake righteous indignation...
If you weren't so tragic, you would be just sad...
but I will say again that you liberals are f'ing funny when you get your panties in a twist....oh how you love to be offended, and rail with your fake righteous indignation...
If you weren't so tragic, you would be just sad...
**** you traitor. Is that sufficiently indignant for you?
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I love it...it shows inconclusively that you don't have the first idea of what the word traitor means.....if you believe it is treason to say that I would prefer putin over hillary, then you really don't have a clue....which is why you have had no problem violating your oath to defend the constitution by voting for people who would move the supreme court further to the left...
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try looking in a mirror...Treason is defined as...the offense of acting to overthrow one'sgovernment or to harm or kill its sovereign.
So tell me skid mark...exactly what act did I take to overthrow the government? I said that I would prefer one individual over another....how shattered must your grasp of reality be in order to see that as treason? You are a f'ing idiot skid mark...no doubt about it.
But you are always good for a chuckle around the water cooler....real people find it hard to believe that people like you actually exist.
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First, an enemy of the state is an individual...not a nation...a nation is an enemy of the people... second, russia at present isn't listed as an "enemy".
second...which hostile act? You really do have a warped view of reality? And for that matter...which aid and support...
Russia and the United States have nuclear weapons aimed at each other. Your semantics re "enemy of the state" is bullshit. According to 50 USCS § 2204 [Title 50. War and National Defense; Chapter 39. Spoils of War], enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States. The hostile act is obviously the hacking and the attempt thereby to influence the results of the election. Your aid and support is the expression of a preference for Putin over Clinton in the context of the DNC & Podesta email hacks.
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