The Shutdown has almost cost as much as Trump Requested so far.

[Marion Morrison]

The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????

Gee, then maybe McConnell should bring the spending bill the House passed up for a Senate floor vote instead of shoving it up his ass.

Bitch! A wall should have been built since 1980 fucking nine, motherfucker! Grah!

Nineteen eighty nine.

Year wall should have been completed=1989.

 

[Marion Morrison]

"We have already been burned once by false promises of border security in exchange for tying security to other aspects of the immigration debate. President Reagan, in 1986, signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act, which legalized close to 3 million undocumented immigrants. The laws was supposed to be a comprehensive solution with provisions intended to clamp down on border security. These provisions were never enforced, and the subsequent explosion in illegal crossings has resulted in some 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States today."

"
In 1986 I voted for the Simpson-Mazzoli immigration bill because we were told it would solve the problem of massive illegal immigration. In his diaries, President Ronald Reagan said he was going to sign the bill because we had to regain control of our borders. The Simpson-Mazzoli bill contained three promises:

1. The government would make a concerted effort to control the borders.
2. An effective employer verification program would ensure that only legal workers were hired.
3. One-time amnesty would be granted for people illegally in the United States.

All three promises were broken. The government has made no serious effort to control our borders. Employers continue knowingly to hire illegal immigrants without any real fear of punishment."


Ronald Reagan on Immigration

 

[eagle1462010]

The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????

Gee, then maybe McConnell should bring the spending bill the House passed up for a Senate floor vote instead of shoving it up his ass.

Well gee......it was buried in Reid's old Graveyard of bills......problem is too much space was there from Reid.........Need a new graveyard I guess.........

It stays shut down........over 5 billion to build walls in areas were they are having difficulties............The Dems true agenda is on full display..........they don't want the border and immigration fixed. You know it.......I know it........hopefully the uninformed will know that soon.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I keep it shut down so our "Representatives" can't vote for their bribing corporate sponsors and make them money.

Fuck 'em all! Call a convention of states and make it happen.

 

[justoffal]

The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????

Remember this however stifling the border traffic will put a big dent in the pockets of those elected officials who are receiving Kartel Pesos! For them no amount of money is worth closing down the border.

Jo

 

[eagle1462010]

"We have already been burned once by false promises of border security in exchange for tying security to other aspects of the immigration debate. President Reagan, in 1986, signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act, which legalized close to 3 million undocumented immigrants. The laws was supposed to be a comprehensive solution with provisions intended to clamp down on border security. These provisions were never enforced, and the subsequent explosion in illegal crossings has resulted in some 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States today."

"
In 1986 I voted for the Simpson-Mazzoli immigration bill because we were told it would solve the problem of massive illegal immigration. In his diaries, President Ronald Reagan said he was going to sign the bill because we had to regain control of our borders. The Simpson-Mazzoli bill contained three promises:

1. The government would make a concerted effort to control the borders.
2. An effective employer verification program would ensure that only legal workers were hired.
3. One-time amnesty would be granted for people illegally in the United States.

All three promises were broken. The government has made no serious effort to control our borders. Employers continue knowingly to hire illegal immigrants without any real fear of punishment."


Ronald Reagan on Immigration

It was supposed to end illegal employment. They set up a network of Fake ID's.........SSN's to put on the I-9 forms for employment verification. Fake Drivers Licenses........etc...........they get hired..........when caught they get deported and the business said we thought they were legal........ROPE A DOPE...........

IRS Admits It Encourages Illegals To Steal Social Security Numbers For Taxes

It wasn't put exactly that way. According to Senator Coats:





What we learned is that ... the IRS continues to process tax returns with false W-2 information and issue refunds as if they were routine tax returns, and say that's not really our job. We also learned the IRS ignores notifications from the Social Security Administration that a name does not match a Social Security number, and you use your own system to determine whether a number is valid."

Commissioner Koskinen was asked to explain this. He suggested that as long as the information is being used only to fraudulently obtain jobs, the IRS was OK with it. In fact, he said that the IRS actually had an interest in helping the illegal immigrants to crook these rules. In fairness, perhaps it's just the 'that's not my department' response that abounds in big government. Perhaps this just isn't the IRS's problem, but it sure seems odd to have any agency chief encouraging illegal immigrant theft of SSNs.


Our great gov't at work.............knowingly processing tax returns that are fraudulent..................Not caring they are processing ILLEGAL ID'S...........

Boogles the mind..............

 

[eagle1462010]

The Truth About Undocumented Immigrants and Taxes - The Atlantic

The Earnings Suspense File now contains Social Security tax forms that date back to 1937 and are linked to the taxes that were paid on nearly $1.3 trillion in wages. Some of the W-2s in it belong to people who got married and never reported changing their name. Others are people who filled out their tax forms incorrectly. As of 2014, efforts to track these taxpayers down allowed the Social Security Administration to match 171 million tax forms to their rightful owners.

But there are still about 340 million unclaimed tax forms recorded in the file, compared to 270 million nearly a decade ago. A good portion of those forms were filed by employers on behalf of some of the most unlikely funders of Social Security: undocumented immigrants. In fact, illegal immigration is considered largely responsible for the mushrooming of the file, with undocumented workers paying billions in taxes for retirement benefits they will likely never receive.

He calculates that undocumented immigrants paid $13 billion into the retirement trust fund that year, and only got about $1 billion in benefits. “We estimate that earnings by unauthorized immigrants result in a net positive effect on Social Security financial status generally, and that this effect contributed roughly $12 billion to the cash flow of the program for 2010,” Gross concluded in a 2013 review of the impact of undocumented immigrants on Social Security.



They say........if it makes them money...........THEY DON'T CARE THE DOCUMENTS ARE FORGED..........Our gov't at work for us...........YEAH RIGHT.

 

[eagle1462010]

The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????

Remember this however stifling the border traffic will put a big dent in the pockets of those elected officials who are receiving Kartel Pesos! For them no amount of money is worth closing down the border.

Jo

FUCK THEM.

 

[eagle1462010]

IRS Says Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Tax Credits

In a letter IRS Commissioner John Koskinen sent to Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, last week, the head of the tax agency confirmed that illegal immigrants authorized to remain in the United States and receive work permits under Obama’s recent executive actions would be able to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for past years they were not allowed to work in the country.

Koskinen said that guidance issued by the IRS in 2000, which allows filers with a Social Security number to claim tax credits for up to three previous tax years, would still apply today.

Under the IRS’ measure, those in the country illegally are able to retroactively claim the Earned Income Tax Credit on earnings from as far back as 2011.

“The tax code shouldn’t reward those who broke our immigration laws,” said @ChuckGrassley.

The president’s executive actions would grant roughly 5 million illegal immigrants with Social Security numbers and work permits. However, it’s unknown how many of those remaining in the U.S. would be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit.


More OBAMA LEGACY.............Back pay when they weren't even LEGAL...........Getting Tax Credits when LEGALLY they should be deported.

 

[eagle1462010]

Reagan got CONNED..................With something like E-Verify to get employment............What Reagan was trying to do would have worked.........How in the HELL can it work when our OWN GOV'T lets them file taxes even though they KNOW they are FAKE SSN'S.

Then you who the left say they don't vote.........LOL........They are getting TAX RETURNS with their Fake SSN's..........OF COURSE THEY ARE DOING THE SAME WITH VOTES.

 

[Clementine]

People need to understand the difference between a liberal and a leftist or we are doomed. Why the hell are the liberals in this country embracing the radical leftist ideas? It's dangerous.

Regarding the wall, it's leftists who don't want it because they admittedly are aiming for one world government and no borders or sovereignty for any countries. And the liberals, who used to care about freedom, are lined up behind them. WTF?

We need a damn border wall. Now. The leftists shut down government because they are bound and determined to get their way and they honestly don't care who gets hurt. How many people will lose their credit ratings and fall behind in payments because they won't get their earned retirement checks or their paychecks? Today's Dems don't care. They own this shutdown. All they have to do is agree to rational border security, which is their job. Instead, they are fighting so they can have powers they were never meant to have. Think about it.

 

[Faun]

The LUNACY of the Democrats continues..........The cost of the shut down quickly approaches the amount requested by Trump over the CR resolution. In about a week we will lose more than REQUESTED.

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...hutdown-has-cost-us-economy-36-billion-so-far

THE U.S. ECONOMY HAS lost $3.6 billion because of the ongoing partial government shutdown, according to an analysis by Standard & Poor's Global Ratings. It will only take another two weeks for the shutdown to cost the economy $5.7 billion – the same amount that the White House has requested for President Donald Trump's border wall.


The article says 2 weeks.........My 1 week is based on they authorized 1.6 Billion in the CR.

Now HOW STUPID IS THIS?????????

“If we don’t get what we want, one way or the other, whether it’s through you, through military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government. And I am proud. I’ll tell you what. I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. Because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn’t work. I will take the mantle of shutting down. I’m going to shut it down for border security.” ~ Donald Trump, owner of the shutdown​

 

[Faun]

People need to understand the difference between a liberal and a leftist or we are doomed. Why the hell are the liberals in this country embracing the radical leftist ideas? It's dangerous.

Regarding the wall, it's leftists who don't want it because they admittedly are aiming for one world government and no borders or sovereignty for any countries. And the liberals, who used to care about freedom, are lined up behind them. WTF?

We need a damn border wall. Now. The leftists shut down government because they are bound and determined to get their way and they honestly don't care who gets hurt. How many people will lose their credit ratings and fall behind in payments because they won't get their earned retirement checks or their paychecks? Today's Dems don't care. They own this shutdown. All they have to do is agree to rational border security, which is their job. Instead, they are fighting so they can have powers they were never meant to have. Think about it.

We already have barriers where needed along the border. We don't need to replace them.

 

[Faun]

If the wall is so important why did Trump reject funding for it a year ago?

What is he willing to give in exchange?

Payments over time......10 years for DACA.......a Trust Fund that they would not allow spent later. LOL

Put the money up front and that deal would already be done......We aren't kicking the Football Lucy.

It was spread out over 5 years, not 10, and trump would have had $5 billion for FY2018 and now he'd be up to $10 billion with another $5 billion for FY2019.

What an idiot he is, huh? Perfect representative for Republicans, eh?

 

[Faun]

That is not what haooened

He offered DACA for the wall, including a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers" and got no funds for the wall

Bullshit. Democrats voted on giving him $25 billion, up front, in a trust fund which he could tap into as much as $5 billion per fiscal year. Trump, and Republicans, said no deal.

SEC. ll. BORDER SECURITY TRUST FUND.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established in the Treasury of the United States a trust fund to be known as the Border Security Trust Fund (in this section referred to as the ‘‘Trust Fund’’), consisting of amounts appropriated to the Trust Fund under subsection (b) and any amounts that may be credited to the Trust Fund under subsection (c).
(b) APPROPRIATION.—There are appropriated to the Trust Fund $25,000,000,000, to remain available until expended.
(c) INVESTMENT OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary of the Treasury shall invest such portion of the Trust Fund as is not required to meet cur- rent withdrawals in interest-bearing obligations of the United States or in obligations guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the United States.
(2) INTEREST AND PROCEEDS.—The interest on, and the proceeds from the sale or redemption of, any obligations held in the Trust Fund shall be credited to and form a part of the Trust Fund.
(d) AVAILABILITY OF AMOUNTS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subject to paragraph (2), amounts in the Trust Fund shall be available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, without further appropriation, for—
(A) construction of not fewer than 700 miles of reinforced fencing, excluding vehicle barriers;
(B) installation of additional physical barriers;
(C) construction and maintenance of access and patrol roads;
(D) lighting;
(E) an interlocking surveillance camera system;
(F) remote sensors; and
(G) the purchase from the Secretary of Defense of surplus aircraft and unmanned air- craft systems.
(2) LIMITATION.—Not more than $5,000,000,000 of the amount in the Trust Fund may be obligated and expended in any fiscal year.[/B][/COLOR]​

... like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have nothing at all to say.