The Second Proof of God

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^ he mad

 

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The evolutionary phases of matter are:

1. Cosmic evolution
2. Stellar evolution
3. Chemical evolution
4. Biological evolution
5. Evolution of consciousness

Before the evolution of consciousness could occur, life had to evolve to the point that intelligence could emerge. The arrow of evolution is towards ever increasing complexity and was controlled through the natural processes of nature. Cause and effect was still at play.

 

[Montrovant]

The evolutionary phases of matter are:

1. Cosmic evolution
2. Stellar evolution
3. Chemical evolution
4. Biological evolution
5. Evolution of consciousness

Before biological evolution could occur, cosmic evolution, stellar evolution and chemical evolution had to occur first. There is a sequence and a progression. The progression follows the laws of nature at every step along the way through cause and effect.

The progression or evolution of matter is from less complex to more complex and is indisputable. It is why we are searching for intelligence in the universe.

Matter evolves from less complex to more complex? And this is indisputable? You seem to be talking about something other than biologic evolution here.

Hes a fakkin troll, and an idiot dude. Dont bother.

Obviously, the universe expanding is bad for sustaining life. Thats *ITS evolutionary process....and life sustaining stars die.

The "Universe" doesnt evolve towards intelligence, it evolves towards harming biological creatures. Biological creatures evolve towards intelligence as a means to survival.

I don't think ding lacks intelligence. However, having intelligence doesn't mean coming to reasonable conclusions.

 

[Picaro]

I am uninterested in this thread now.

Got bored by the second post of that neurotic who wets its bed over Noah. I don't need to go back to know nobody came up with a shred of evidence for the evolution speculation, anyway, and of course no scientists ever post in these threads, except Xian ones, and they are always right in their arguments.

 

[Montrovant]

The evolutionary phases of matter are:

1. Cosmic evolution
2. Stellar evolution
3. Chemical evolution
4. Biological evolution
5. Evolution of consciousness

Before the evolution of consciousness could occur, life had to evolve to the point that intelligence could emerge. The arrow of evolution is towards ever increasing complexity and was controlled through the natural processes of nature. Cause and effect was still at play.

Do you think there can be consciousness without life? While it hasn't happened as of yet, there has been the thought for a while now that humanity will create an artificial intelligence with consciousness.

I ask that question because, if you think it is possible for consciousness to exist without life, might it also then be possible for consciousness to evolve without life? Or, perhaps, without life as we know it?

 

[Picaro]

I don't think ding lacks intelligence. However, having intelligence doesn't mean coming to reasonable conclusions.

That certainly describes the vast majority of atheists who post here, except they lack intelligence or even high school educations.

 

[Montrovant]

I am uninterested in this thread now.

Got bored by the second post of that neurotic who wets its bed over Noah. I don't need to go back to know nobody came up with a shred of evidence for the evolution speculation, anyway, and of course no scientists ever post in these threads, except Xian ones, and they are always right in their arguments.

I can't discern if there's sarcasm in that post.

 

[ding]

Here is how intelligence emerged while following the laws of nature. First creatures had to leave the sea because ain't no one building a technological civilization under the sea. Then creatures had to develop locomotion because that is a requirement for intelligence. Then cold blooded creatures needed to evolve into warm blooded creatures so that a larger central nervous system could evolve as evidenced by the fact that the central nervous systems of every mammal species has gotten larger as it has evolved. That's just intelligence trying to get out. But the big break through was opposable thumbs as that allowed for spatial intelligence to develop. That was when our central nervous system exploded and intelligence emerged.

All of these things were controlled by natural processes through the laws of nature because intelligence is written into the laws of nature. It is the reason we search for intelligence in the universe.

 

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Is it even possible that the beauty, symmetry and order of music, art, math and science could exist without the intention that they be known?

 

[ding]

We are literally faced with the mind blowing reality that our universe once occupied the space of one billionth of one trillionth the size of a single atom and then began to expand and cool until such a time it produced beings that could contemplate their origin back to the original creation of their energy and matter which were created during the miracle of creation.

 

[Taz]

Here is how intelligence emerged while following the laws of nature. First creatures had to leave the sea because ain't no one building a technological civilization under the sea. Then creatures had to develop locomotion because that is a requirement for intelligence. Then cold blooded creatures needed to evolve into warm blooded creatures so that a larger central nervous system could evolve as evidenced by the fact that the central nervous systems of every mammal species has gotten larger as it has evolved. That's just intelligence trying to get out. But the big break through was opposable thumbs as that allowed for spatial intelligence to develop. That was when our central nervous system exploded and intelligence emerged.

All of these things were controlled by natural processes through the laws of nature because intelligence is written into the laws of nature. It is the reason we search for intelligence in the universe.

Just curious, are your thumbs opposable?

 

[Montrovant]

Here is how intelligence emerged while following the laws of nature. First creatures had to leave the sea because ain't no one building a technological civilization under the sea. Then creatures had to develop locomotion because that is a requirement for intelligence. Then cold blooded creatures needed to evolve into warm blooded creatures so that a larger central nervous system could evolve as evidenced by the fact that the central nervous systems of every mammal species has gotten larger as it has evolved. That's just intelligence trying to get out. But the big break through was opposable thumbs as that allowed for spatial intelligence to develop. That was when our central nervous system exploded and intelligence emerged.

All of these things were controlled by natural processes through the laws of nature because intelligence is written into the laws of nature. It is the reason we search for intelligence in the universe.

Locomotion is required for intelligence? WTF?

Is a paraplegic not intelligent because they cannot move around?

Do creatures which live in the water not have locomotion?

 

[ding]

^ doesn't have a clue what is required for intelligence to emerge.

 

[RWNJ]

God can't be logically disproven that's the issue.

It can’t be logically disproven that you’re a homosexual. Does that mean that you are?

The universe requires a Creator. It is a scientific fact that nothing physical can create itself. Therefore, the PHYSICAL universe had a creator. My logic cannot be refuted. It is iron clad.

And God is Allah.

Allah? Who's that? Oh, that's right. I believe he was a Pagan moon god that some murdering pedophile selected for his false religion.

It’s irrelevant to the OP what you believe.

It's not a matter of belief. It's historical fact. Mohamed was a murderer and a pedophile. The god he selected was a Pagan moon god. Fact.

 

[Montrovant]

^ doesn't have a clue what is required for intelligence to emerge.

Perhaps you should have said "locomotion is a requirement for a species to evolve intelligence." All you said is that locomotion is a requirement of intelligence. I think Stephen Hawking would disagree with that.

One might argue that locomotion isn't a direct requirement for a species to evolve intelligence, but rather a requirement of animal survival, but no need to get into that.

Also, you said that intelligence emerged after creatures left the sea. How are you defining intelligence? Most animals can be said to have some degree of intelligence, are you saying self-awareness? And would you not consider whales and dolphins intelligent creatures?

You said that creatures that left the sea had to develop locomotion. That is unlikely. Instead, it is more likely that such creatures had to develop new forms of locomotion; I am unaware of any animal life which does not engage in some sort of locomotion.

Perhaps your statements aren't accurately reflecting the points you are trying to get across.

 

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Shades of grey would have one believe that Dolphins have built a technological civilization under the sea and sent probes to other planets in the solar system and have constructed telescopes to explore deep space.

 

[edthecynic]

Every star dies.....its literally 3 words that just debunked you. dufus

But its matter lives on.