The Second Amendment Was A Failure From The Start, And Should Have Been Repealed 200 Years Ago

[BLUE COLLAR]

Wasn't there a reference to God?

I didn't see one.

but I do not appreciate a counterpoint made on merit of what God has supposedly said.

Not sure God ever said anything about guns. Let me know if you find a quote.

I won't bother looking as that was not my point. Further, I can't quote something that exist only in faith claimed by mere mortals.

I simply reacted to one of those mortals pulling the God Card.

 

[2aguy]

The fallacy you employ in directing your argument at me is that I do not seek to disarm you. I seek only to interject an element of common sense to who, where and what manner of firearms are possessed.

As for Native Americans, many died as you state, others died because we wanted their land and its resources, because we waged war on them, killed them, and herded them onto reservations so that "manifest destiny" could be achieved.

The majority died from European diseases.....

And they were pushed off land they had taken from other indian tribes........and do you know why they were pushed off?

They didn't have enough guns, and they didn't advance their technology before the Europeans arrived......had they been as technologically developed as the Europeans, they never would have lost this continent.......too much water to cross by the Europeans to take land held at gun point.

 

[2aguy]

The fallacy you employ in directing your argument at me is that I do not seek to disarm you. I seek only to interject an element of common sense to who, where and what manner of firearms are possessed.

As for Native Americans, many died as you state, others died because we wanted their land and its resources, because we waged war on them, killed them, and herded them onto reservations so that "manifest destiny" could be achieved.

The laws you want erode the Right......and will allow the democrats to keep pushing more and more restrictions that do nothing to stop crime or mass shootings, but will slowly take guns away from normal people...

Can you explain how any of the laws the democrats and you want would have stopped any of the mass public shootings or the crimes in democrat party controlled cities?

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

Millions of guns aren't causing carnage.

No, the carnage is by the hand of those with easy access, in part due to a great supply.

 

[2aguy]

No, the carnage is by the hand of those with easy access, in part due to a great supply.

It isn't easy access......they have been captured over and over again by the police....with illegal guns.....and instead of being sent away for 10 years.......should be much longer...the democrat party prosecutors drop the gun charges, the democrat party judges release them with no cash bail....and the democrat party politicians remove the gun laws that focus on actual criminals...while increasing the penalties on normal gun owners...

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

We don't need restraint on firearms...we need to control our criminal populations in the tiny areas of democrat party controlled cities where they are released, over and over again and where the police have stopped doing their jobs...because of attacks by the democrat party.

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

 

[2aguy]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

How do the prisons protect us if the democrat party keeps letting the most violent, most dangerous offender out....or refuses to even put them in jail and prison?

I have link after link of democrat party policies...from striking down laws, to stopping the police from chasing criminals, to granting no cash bail to repeat gun offenders, .........it is these policies that are allowing criminals to shoot people...

yet you blame normal gun owners.......

Do you see why we can't see eye to eye?

 

[2aguy]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

The aren't in control of these cities...the most violent cities in this country have been run by democrat party mayors, city councils, prosecutors and judges for decades...some going all the way back to after the Civil War....

National level policies are not the same as the local policies...where the democrats attack the police and release criminals...

Do you want me to give you the links to the policies and actions?

Just this week Chicago is ordering the police to not foot chase fleeing criminals..........California is trying to stop prosecutions for drive by shootings.....

And you don't see this as the main drivers of crime?

 

[2aguy]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

This is just a sample....

New York...



The Mayor of New York City held a press conference yesterday that was full of fire and brimstone. The cover of the New York Post really says it all. “Mayor’s plea: We took 2,600 guns… But the shooters are back on the streets.”

---

The Mayor is clearly frustrated and it’s reached the point where he feels compelled to point out the obvious. He said, “after the shooting, after the arrest, after being let go — You know what they do? They go do another shooting.” The NYPD is already aware of this because they keep arresting the same people over and over again.

He pointed out that criminals in New York City “no longer believe you can’t do a shooting.” He continued, saying that criminals don’t take criminal justice seriously anymore.

While the Mayor didn’t mention him by name, he was clearly making a reference to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The DA came into office promising to put fewer people behind bars and proceeded to make good on that threat.



NYC Mayor: Our prosecutors are "a laughingstock" of the country



California..



Two days after the Uvalde shooting in Texas, the California State Senate passed a bill that would allow schools not to report threats or attacks against employees to law enforcement.

----

According to the Bill, it would repeal the provision of existing law where it requires that “whenever any employee of a school district or county superintendent of schools is attacked, assaulted, or physically threatened by any pupil, the employee and any person under whose direction or supervision the employee is employed who has knowledge of the incident are required to promptly report the incident to specified law enforcement authorities.”

SB 1273 would then make such reports to law enforcement voluntary.






California Senate Passes Bill to Allow Schools Not to Report Threats to Police

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Philly....



This year, though, we’ve jumped the shark. We’re on pace for over 600 murders—the most ever. An Inquirer story last week laid out some even more disturbing findings. Since Krasner took office, the number of gun crime arrests has nearly tripled, but the conviction rate for gun crimes has plunged from 63 percent in 2017 to 49 percent in 2019. In January, I reported that, under Krasner, homicides have jumped a whopping 58 percent; just 21 percent of shootings since 2015 led to criminal charges, and less than one-tenth of those resulted in convictions.

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The DA’s own data dashboard shows that, every year of his tenure, Krasner’s office has dismissed or withdrawn more violent cases and gun cases than the year before. In fact, the average annual number of such cases that were dismissed or withdrawn has increased by 85 percent during Krasner’s tenure, compared with the four years before he took office. All of this despite the fact that the police are making more gun arrests than at any time since 2015.



Larry Krasner is losing the battle against homicide. Will voters even care?



New york, 4/25/22



We recently looked at the results of New York City Mayor Eric Adams bringing back the special gun crimes task force of the NYPD, though these days the various units deployed around the city have the much friendlier name of Neighborhood Safety Teams. The Mayor reported that in just the first few weeks of operation, the NSTs had taken dozens of guns off the streets and made more than two dozen arrests. The vast majority of them had one thing in common. The suspects generally had prior convictions or arrests for similar crimes. So that’s some great news, right? Getting more shooters and illegal guns off the street was the stated objective and if they keep up this good work the city should see some measurable improvements.

There’s just one problem, however. Of those 25 suspects arrested on gun charges, how many of them do you think are still behind bars? If you guessed “one,” give yourself a cookie. All the rest of them have been sprung. (NY Post)



Remember all of those gun charges the NYPD was finally bringing? Never mind

California...



California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
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Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds



New Y

 

[2aguy]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

This is not a national policy.....this is from local democrats...can you explain this.....or the others?

So why are Washington Democrats offering up a bill in the state legislature to lower the penalties for drive-by shootings?


Well, there’s woke and then there’s just plain stupid. Washington state Democrats are vying to become the best stupid they can be, bless ’em.

Currently, Washington law holds that a drive-by shooter should get an aggravated enhancement if he is arrested and prosecuted—and that’s a big if. Such an enhancement could land a drive-by murderer a life prison sentence.

But under a bill proposed for the upcoming Washington state legislature by white, woke ex-con state Rep. Tarra Simmons and her co-sponsor David Hackney, the reduction in penalties is a move toward “racial equity.” That’s right, drive-by shooting prosecutorial outcomes are racist. Never mind all the black and brown people who are the disproportionate victims of drive-by shootings.

Washington State Democrats Want Decreased Penalties for Drive-By Shooters Because... Aw, You Guessed

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

It isn't easy access......they have been captured over and over again by the police....with illegal guns.....and instead of being sent away for 10 years.......should be much longer...the democrat party prosecutors drop the gun charges, the democrat party judges release them with no cash bail....and the democrat party politicians remove the gun laws that focus on actual criminals...while increasing the penalties on normal gun owners...

So you say, but can you point to the evidence that this is the complete causation? I accept that part of what you say is correct. You need to similarly allow that lax gun laws are part of the problem. We will not solve the problems without taking a broad view of its nature.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons? Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons?

Yes.

Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Yes.

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

It's not a federal issue, it's a state and local issue.

 

[2aguy]

So you say, but can you point to the evidence that this is the complete causation? I accept that part of what you say is correct. You need to similarly allow that lax gun laws are part of the problem. We will not solve the problems without taking a broad view of its nature.

The complete causation...no.......what you have are boys and girls raised in fatherless homes.....to single mothers.....there is a 75% out of wedlock birth rate in black neighorhoods......it is fatherless homes that drive crime and poverty....that is the root.....

The fertilizer to this problem is the policies of the democrat party that allow criminals to go free and to not fear the consequences of using a gun to shoot people......

These gang members are tragic cases.......but you don't help them by letting them murder more innocent people.....

What about this do you not understand....we do not have lax gun laws......we have all the gun laws we need to arrest and imprison criminals who use guns for crime....but those 20,000 gun laws are useless when the democrat party refuses to use them, and releases known, violent, repeat gun offenders over and over again...

it isn't the gun....it isn't normal gun owners.....it is soft on crime policies by the democrats.

 

[2aguy]

So, you are suggesting that we should raise taxes and build more prisons?

Yes.

Don't we already have more per capita incarcerations than any other country?

Yes.

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit. The other side has control of the country half of the time.

It's not a federal issue, it's a state and local issue.

Yep.....thank you......

 

[2aguy]

So you say, but can you point to the evidence that this is the complete causation? I accept that part of what you say is correct. You need to similarly allow that lax gun laws are part of the problem. We will not solve the problems without taking a broad view of its nature.

My post here #749 documents just a few of the examples of the democrat party prosecutors refusing to prosecute actual gun crimnals captured by the police......and who are then released by the judges, now with no cash bail requirements.........and yet you say we need more gun laws when the democrats aren't using the gun laws we actually have?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

NRA?

Yes, of course, NRA. Not “IRA.” Not an Irish bone in my body — so far as I know, anyway.

***

Periods of relative peace and mutual violence between ethnic communities, e.g. Protestant and Irish communities in Northern Ireland, or the domination of England over Ireland, Scotland, India (and even the U.S. for over a hundred years) all show that political oppression or the lack of it is not simply or directly associated with “gun ownership” — though this often plays a part in colonial situations.

The army of the India Raj was run by British officers but its ranks were overwhelmingly Indians. The relative lack of weapons in civilian hands did not cause the massacres of innocents during Indian partition either. Consciousness, culture, politics, economic institutions, history — these are usually the key factors that lead to, or end in, massacres and genocide.

Nobody is out to genocide white Americans — or do you think different? In China the CCP was quite popular right up to the beginning of land collectivizations and the Great Leap Forward. These policies — when added to natural disasters — led to the huge Han starvation deaths that you here call “genocide.”

Germany and Jews? No amount of weapons in Jewish hands would have saved them, as they were a minority population distributed throughout the country and largely integrated into German society. Of course they were not completed integrated, and were turned into hated outsiders and scapegoats by German nationalists like Hitler with his mad Nazi Party demagogy.

Of course weapons in civilian hands sometimes do matter. When crime is completely out of control virtually everybody wants them for self protection. Israel has them and has used them successfully to survive … and expand. Ukraine needs them to survive today. But here we are talking more of military force, of armies.

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

This is just a sample....

New York...



The Mayor of New York City held a press conference yesterday that was full of fire and brimstone. The cover of the New York Post really says it all. “Mayor’s plea: We took 2,600 guns… But the shooters are back on the streets.”

---

The Mayor is clearly frustrated and it’s reached the point where he feels compelled to point out the obvious. He said, “after the shooting, after the arrest, after being let go — You know what they do? They go do another shooting.” The NYPD is already aware of this because they keep arresting the same people over and over again.

He pointed out that criminals in New York City “no longer believe you can’t do a shooting.” He continued, saying that criminals don’t take criminal justice seriously anymore.

While the Mayor didn’t mention him by name, he was clearly making a reference to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The DA came into office promising to put fewer people behind bars and proceeded to make good on that threat.



NYC Mayor: Our prosecutors are "a laughingstock" of the country



California..



Two days after the Uvalde shooting in Texas, the California State Senate passed a bill that would allow schools not to report threats or attacks against employees to law enforcement.

----

According to the Bill, it would repeal the provision of existing law where it requires that “whenever any employee of a school district or county superintendent of schools is attacked, assaulted, or physically threatened by any pupil, the employee and any person under whose direction or supervision the employee is employed who has knowledge of the incident are required to promptly report the incident to specified law enforcement authorities.”

SB 1273 would then make such reports to law enforcement voluntary.






California Senate Passes Bill to Allow Schools Not to Report Threats to Police

=========



Philly....



This year, though, we’ve jumped the shark. We’re on pace for over 600 murders—the most ever. An Inquirer story last week laid out some even more disturbing findings. Since Krasner took office, the number of gun crime arrests has nearly tripled, but the conviction rate for gun crimes has plunged from 63 percent in 2017 to 49 percent in 2019. In January, I reported that, under Krasner, homicides have jumped a whopping 58 percent; just 21 percent of shootings since 2015 led to criminal charges, and less than one-tenth of those resulted in convictions.

-----



The DA’s own data dashboard shows that, every year of his tenure, Krasner’s office has dismissed or withdrawn more violent cases and gun cases than the year before. In fact, the average annual number of such cases that were dismissed or withdrawn has increased by 85 percent during Krasner’s tenure, compared with the four years before he took office. All of this despite the fact that the police are making more gun arrests than at any time since 2015.



Larry Krasner is losing the battle against homicide. Will voters even care?



New york, 4/25/22



We recently looked at the results of New York City Mayor Eric Adams bringing back the special gun crimes task force of the NYPD, though these days the various units deployed around the city have the much friendlier name of Neighborhood Safety Teams. The Mayor reported that in just the first few weeks of operation, the NSTs had taken dozens of guns off the streets and made more than two dozen arrests. The vast majority of them had one thing in common. The suspects generally had prior convictions or arrests for similar crimes. So that’s some great news, right? Getting more shooters and illegal guns off the street was the stated objective and if they keep up this good work the city should see some measurable improvements.

There’s just one problem, however. Of those 25 suspects arrested on gun charges, how many of them do you think are still behind bars? If you guessed “one,” give yourself a cookie. All the rest of them have been sprung. (NY Post)



Remember all of those gun charges the NYPD was finally bringing? Never mind

California...



California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
------------
Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds



New Y

Care to compare California's per capita violence to the other 49 states?

Does California make mistakes. Yes their shit stinks just like wherever it is that you hail.

I'm going to try a different approach. I'll suggest to you that there are no absolutes. Regarding gun violence, do you assign any responsibility to the proliferations of firearms and lax regulations? If you don't, then all of this is a waste of keystrokes.

In the meantime, my boss wants me to go shopping and I'm getting the evil eye.

 

[2aguy]

Care to compare California's per capita violence to the other 49 states?

Does California make mistakes. Yes their shit stinks just like wherever it is that you hail.

I'm going to try a different approach. I'll suggest to you that there are no absolutes. Regarding gun violence, do you assign any responsibility to the proliferations of firearms and lax regulations? If you don't, then all of this is a waste of keystrokes.

In the meantime, my boss wants me to go shopping and I'm getting the evil eye.

Yeah.....Texas.......California has extreme gun control laws...Texas does not.....California has massive gun crime....

No...I do not........how do you see 20,000 gun laws at the Federal, state and local level and say we have lax gun laws.....

At the same time, I show you exact laws and policies by the democrat party that allow violent criminals to repeatedly go out and shoot people...and you still go back to "lax gun laws."


What gun laws do we need? We can arrest any criminal who uses a gun for crime.......most mass public shooters break no laws before they commit their murders....

What gun control laws do we need.......?

Mention what you think, and we will dissect them........most anti-gun fanatics, not meaning you necessarily.....will refuse to bring up specific gun laws....because they know even the tiniest amount of analysis shows they do nothing....well...they do make it more expensive, more legally dangerous for normal gun owners...which is what the anti-gun fanatics want.....and their true goal..

 

[BLUE COLLAR]

This is just a sample....

New York...



The Mayor of New York City held a press conference yesterday that was full of fire and brimstone. The cover of the New York Post really says it all. “Mayor’s plea: We took 2,600 guns… But the shooters are back on the streets.”

---

The Mayor is clearly frustrated and it’s reached the point where he feels compelled to point out the obvious. He said, “after the shooting, after the arrest, after being let go — You know what they do? They go do another shooting.” The NYPD is already aware of this because they keep arresting the same people over and over again.

He pointed out that criminals in New York City “no longer believe you can’t do a shooting.” He continued, saying that criminals don’t take criminal justice seriously anymore.

While the Mayor didn’t mention him by name, he was clearly making a reference to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The DA came into office promising to put fewer people behind bars and proceeded to make good on that threat.



NYC Mayor: Our prosecutors are "a laughingstock" of the country



California..



Two days after the Uvalde shooting in Texas, the California State Senate passed a bill that would allow schools not to report threats or attacks against employees to law enforcement.

----

According to the Bill, it would repeal the provision of existing law where it requires that “whenever any employee of a school district or county superintendent of schools is attacked, assaulted, or physically threatened by any pupil, the employee and any person under whose direction or supervision the employee is employed who has knowledge of the incident are required to promptly report the incident to specified law enforcement authorities.”

SB 1273 would then make such reports to law enforcement voluntary.






California Senate Passes Bill to Allow Schools Not to Report Threats to Police

=========



Philly....



This year, though, we’ve jumped the shark. We’re on pace for over 600 murders—the most ever. An Inquirer story last week laid out some even more disturbing findings. Since Krasner took office, the number of gun crime arrests has nearly tripled, but the conviction rate for gun crimes has plunged from 63 percent in 2017 to 49 percent in 2019. In January, I reported that, under Krasner, homicides have jumped a whopping 58 percent; just 21 percent of shootings since 2015 led to criminal charges, and less than one-tenth of those resulted in convictions.

-----



The DA’s own data dashboard shows that, every year of his tenure, Krasner’s office has dismissed or withdrawn more violent cases and gun cases than the year before. In fact, the average annual number of such cases that were dismissed or withdrawn has increased by 85 percent during Krasner’s tenure, compared with the four years before he took office. All of this despite the fact that the police are making more gun arrests than at any time since 2015.



Larry Krasner is losing the battle against homicide. Will voters even care?



New york, 4/25/22



We recently looked at the results of New York City Mayor Eric Adams bringing back the special gun crimes task force of the NYPD, though these days the various units deployed around the city have the much friendlier name of Neighborhood Safety Teams. The Mayor reported that in just the first few weeks of operation, the NSTs had taken dozens of guns off the streets and made more than two dozen arrests. The vast majority of them had one thing in common. The suspects generally had prior convictions or arrests for similar crimes. So that’s some great news, right? Getting more shooters and illegal guns off the street was the stated objective and if they keep up this good work the city should see some measurable improvements.

There’s just one problem, however. Of those 25 suspects arrested on gun charges, how many of them do you think are still behind bars? If you guessed “one,” give yourself a cookie. All the rest of them have been sprung. (NY Post)



Remember all of those gun charges the NYPD was finally bringing? Never mind

California...



California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
------------
Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds



New Y

NYC Mayor: Our prosecutors are "a laughingstock" of the country



California..



Two days after the Uvalde shooting in Texas, the California State Senate passed a bill that would allow schools not to report threats or attacks against employees to law enforcement.

----

According to the Bill, it would repeal the provision of existing law where it requires that “whenever any employee of a school district or county superintendent of schools is attacked, assaulted, or physically threatened by any pupil, the employee and any person under whose direction or supervision the employee is employed who has knowledge of the incident are required to promptly report the incident to specified law enforcement authorities.”

SB 1273 would then make such reports to law enforcement voluntary.






California Senate Passes Bill to Allow Schools Not to Report Threats to Police

=========



Philly....



This year, though, we’ve jumped the shark. We’re on pace for over 600 murders—the most ever. An Inquirer story last week laid out some even more disturbing findings. Since Krasner took office, the number of gun crime arrests has nearly tripled, but the conviction rate for gun crimes has plunged from 63 percent in 2017 to 49 percent in 2019. In January, I reported that, under Krasner, homicides have jumped a whopping 58 percent; just 21 percent of shootings since 2015 led to criminal charges, and less than one-tenth of those resulted in convictions.

-----



The DA’s own data dashboard shows that, every year of his tenure, Krasner’s office has dismissed or withdrawn more violent cases and gun cases than the year before. In fact, the average annual number of such cases that were dismissed or withdrawn has increased by 85 percent during Krasner’s tenure, compared with the four years before he took office. All of this despite the fact that the police are making more gun arrests than at any time since 2015.



Larry Krasner is losing the battle against homicide. Will voters even care?



New york, 4/25/22



We recently looked at the results of New York City Mayor Eric Adams bringing back the special gun crimes task force of the NYPD, though these days the various units deployed around the city have the much friendlier name of Neighborhood Safety Teams. The Mayor reported that in just the first few weeks of operation, the NSTs had taken dozens of guns off the streets and made more than two dozen arrests. The vast majority of them had one thing in common. The suspects generally had prior convictions or arrests for similar crimes. So that’s some great news, right? Getting more shooters and illegal guns off the street was the stated objective and if they keep up this good work the city should see some measurable improvements.

There’s just one problem, however. Of those 25 suspects arrested on gun charges, how many of them do you think are still behind bars? If you guessed “one,” give yourself a cookie. All the rest of them have been sprung. (NY Post)



Remember all of those gun charges the NYPD was finally bringing? Never mind

California...



California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
------------
Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

l
felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds



New Y

Who the hell do you think you are kidding with your rapid-fire avalanche of paste?

I'd like to add a sample of my own, and do note that it is just a sample, a citing of a half dozen of lengthy dips into paste.
At 10:40 you gave post #742, at 10:41 post #743, and at 10:43 post #745. All of these were lengthy efforts comprised almost entirely of paste. Eight minutes later, you reeled off 747, 748 and 749 in the span of six fucking minutes.

Are you a bot in the employ of the NRA or a gun manufacturer - or simply a dedicated fanatic who has spent years organizing paste by subject matter?

Regardless, this is a talk forum, get it?

Supporting reference in reasonable amounts is to be expected, but that does not appear to be your objective. Rather, I sense that you think I'm going to wither at the presentation of your over done paste. Sorry, but the sorry-ass methodology is far too transparent.

 

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Who the hell do you think you are kidding with your rapid-fire avalanche of paste?

I'd like to add a sample of my own, and do note that it is just a sample, a citing of a half dozen of lengthy dips into paste.
At 10:40 you gave post #742, at 10:41 post #743, and at 10:43 post #745. All of these were lengthy efforts comprised almost entirely of paste. Eight minutes later, you reeled off 747, 748 and 749 in the span of six fucking minutes.

Are you a bot in the employ of the NRA or a gun manufacturer - or simply a dedicated fanatic who has spent years organizing paste by subject matter?

Regardless, this is a talk forum, get it?

Supporting reference in reasonable amounts is to be expected, but that does not appear to be your objective. Rather, I sense that you think I'm going to wither at the presentation of your over done paste. Sorry, but the sorry-ass methodology is far too transparent.

Hey....you challenged me.,

Your post #746...

Blaming the Democratic Party is bullshit.


you ....I give you information....and like most anti-gun fanatics....you demand links and back up of what I say....I post the links and the facts, and then you bitch like a baby about "cut and paste."

I gave you their exact policies...just a sample...and you complain because it shows that you don't understand the issue....