The Right Doesn’t Need Fact-Checkers

[PoliticalChic]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

So says a Trump worshiper. Trump, who has told over 18,000 lies and misleading statements since taking office.


So, lets look ast the ACA. Show me where it controls provider networks? Read the part where any plan in existence at the bill signing can continue.

Quit thinking your ignoramnce is my lie.

100,000 COVID-19 deaths, 18,000 lies, 17 intelligence agencies. LOL!!!!

Why do Democrats always pad their numbers to make em seem more impressive than they really are???

And many of them pad their IQs, as well, claiming triple digits.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. When reading the argument, logic, explanations presented by any of the ‘fact-checkers,’ always keep in mind that their mission is to support whatever the Democrats/Left claims. If there is any way to hedge the data and/or conclusion…..they will do so.
And lying presents not the slightest bar to their efforts.


“After the Supreme Court ruled Obamacare constitutional in June 2012, the president made the following statement: If you’re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. This law will only make it more secure and more affordable."

PolitiFact decided to keep the scam going. This time it found that the statement had grown in inaccuracy: “The claim Obama made after the Supreme Court decision on June 28, 2012, was a broader statement, and as a result, it’s less accurate.” Louis Jacobson, “Barack Obama Says That Under His Health Care Law, Those Who Have Health Insurance Will Keep It,” PolitiFact, June 29, 2012, http:// www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/29/barack-obama/ barack-obama-says-under-his-health-care-law-those-/.

"Less accurate."

They couldn't bring themselves to say 'lie.'

So….even though Hussein was clearly lying…..guess what PolitiFact awarded the statement?

“Half true.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. Keep in mind, the job of the ‘fact-checkers’ is to find a way to either hide, or verify the lies of the Democrat Party. We have posters who do exactly the same thing.



As it became more and more evident that none of this was true: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor,” watch how deftly PolitiFact handled it:

Not because of what became the case—their former plans were declared insufficient by the federal government under the new law—but because “Your employer may change insurance carriers, for instance, or your insurance carrier may unilaterally modify the terms of your plan.”

See, it wouldn’t be the law’s fault, it would be the fault of your greedy damn employer and those evil insurance companies. PolitiFact concluded, “Obama has a reasonable point: His health care law does take pains to allow Americans to keep their health plan if they want to remain on it. But Obama suggests that keeping the insurance you like is guaranteed.” So a law that essentially federalized one-sixth of the US economy, imposing new standards of minimum coverage on every American, took “pains” to ensure that it didn’t disrupt people’s plans? And “Obama suggests” that you can keep your plan?



The man made a firm “You can keep your plan” statement thirty six times. There’s no hedging there, no wiggle room. Even if you grant wiggle room, the 5 million people in the individual market who received cancellation letters sure as hell were the ones feeling “pains.”



Their final paragraph in the “fact check” is editorializing gold: “In reality, Americans are not simply able to keep their insurance through thick and thin. Even before the law has taken effect, the rate of forced plan- switching among policyholders every year is substantial, and the CBO figures suggest that the law could increase that rate, at least modestly, even if Americans on balance benefit from the law’s provisions. We rate Obama’s claim Half True.” Derek Hunter, “Outrage, Inc.”


Propaganda: nobody does it better than the international Left.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

 

[alang1216]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

What lies?

 

[alang1216]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

What lies?

Trump said if you want a test you can get a test. I know several people who have been unable to be tested to this day.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

What lies?

Trump said if you want a test you can get a test. I know several people who have been unable to be tested to this day.

That's it????


What are you muttering...."must-defend-party....."


Get back under the rock.

 

[PoliticalChic]

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”



10. “So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out,” PolitiFact flippantly wrote, “ . . . the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.” Not that they were a lie. Not that it was a political calculation designed to mislead people and not lose votes—the thirty-six separate occasions on which the president unequivocally pledged to the American people that they would not be adversely affected were just “breezy assurances.” Oopsie! Except it wasn’t an oversight or an unfortunate “breezy assurance,” it was a deliberate lie.


On October 28, 2013, a month and a half before PolitiFact awarded Obama the Lie of the Year, NBC News reported that the White House had known as far back as 2010 that the individual insurance market would see mass cancellations. It reported: Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.” Lisa Meyers and Hannah Rappleye, “Obama Admin. Knew Millions Could Not Keep Their Health Insurance,” NBC News, October 28, 2013, Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance.
Derek Hunter, “Outrage, Inc.”


So, it was known to be a bald-faced lie from 2010......but the 'fact-checkers' kept up the charade.......

....you know......until Hussein had own his last election......the one he told Putin about.......


Now, you see why the Left needs fake 'fact-checkers,' and the Right doesn't?

It's based on Rule #1:
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

 

[alang1216]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

What lies?

Trump said if you want a test you can get a test. I know several people who have been unable to be tested to this day.

That's it????


What are you muttering...."must-defend-party....."


Get back under the rock.

So how many lives were lost to the virus because tests were unavailable? I guess you can ignore those lives just as you ignore Trump's lies. What you have made clear is that the Right doesn't need fact-checkers since they don't seem to care about the truth.

Actually I think that applies to you and many Trump supporters but not the Right in general. I think there is still a majority of the GOP that have to hold their noses and cover their ears when it comes to Trump.

 

[Mac1958]

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

Imagine the intensity of a pathology so powerful that you really believe you're infallible, never wrong.

The profound question to me is, how far deep this goes in their subconscious. Is it just the game-playing of hardcore partisan ideologues, only half serious? Or is it a Trumpian case of narcissistic personality disorder, in which they essentially believe anything that comes out of their mouth in real time because it buttresses their brittle self esteem?

As I observe this stuff here, that's one of the most fascinating questions for me. Maybe THE most fascinating.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Remember the mission of those ‘fact-checkers:’ either hide or verify every lie of the Democrat Party. So when the evils that the Right warned about came to pass….whose fault was it? Not the Democrats.


You lost your healthcare insurance?

Policy can cancelled???

“…your mean employers might switch your plan or an evil insurance company could, but that would all be natural and would have nothing to do with the law. Sure, the law might make things a little worse, but it would for your own good, you stupid American, because, “on balance” you’d “benefit from the law’s provisions.”

By the next year, with reality looking it in the face and 5 million people receiving cancellation letters for their medical insurance plans, PolitiFact, after declaring it “true” once and “half true” twice, said that Obama’s “promise was impossible to keep.”
Angie Drobnic Holan, “Lie of the Year: ‘If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It,’” PolitiFact, December 13, 2013, PolitiFact truth-meter/article/2013/dec/dec/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keepit/.



And Hussein tried soooo hard!


No admission that it was simply a bald-faced lie from the start.

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

What lies?

Trump said if you want a test you can get a test. I know several people who have been unable to be tested to this day.

That's it????


What are you muttering...."must-defend-party....."


Get back under the rock.

So how many lives were lost to the virus because tests were unavailable? I guess you can ignore those lives just as you ignore Trump's lies. What you have made clear is that the Right doesn't need fact-checkers since they don't seem to care about the truth.

Actually I think that applies to you and many Trump supporters but not the Right in general. I think there is still a majority of the GOP that have to hold their noses and cover their ears when it comes to Trump.

You are to intelligent discourse what the coronavirus is to public health.

I look forward to seeing your picture on a milk carton.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I love it that the only way for you to defend the lies of the Right is to divert attention by attacking the Left. Isn't that like saying, "sure we're terrible liars but just look at the other side". Not much of a defense now is it?

Imagine the intensity of a pathology so powerful that you really believe you're infallible, never wrong.

The profound question to me is, how far deep this goes in their subconscious. Is it just the game-playing of hardcore partisan ideologues, only half serious? Or is it a Trumpian case of narcissistic personality disorder, in which they essentially believe anything that comes out of their mouth in real time because it buttresses their brittle self esteem?

As I observe this stuff here, that's one of the most fascinating questions for me. Maybe THE most fascinating.

I liked you more when you were running around the beach, yelling ‘Wilson!’

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

ok then, pick one of these lies and tell us how its true and not a lie.

While you are searching for any lies by Trump.....see if there are any....ANY....on this level:


Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."



2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"


The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.


NEXT!

1) President Obama encouraged "illegal aliens" to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.
2) Iran never made nuclear weapons during obama years.

Snopes???

You're proving my point about the lying 'fact-checkers."



Watch me rub your face in the lie:

She says 'I' after making clear that she is speaking for illegal aliens.









Transcript:



RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting.

[And that is who she is speaking for!]

So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
[Who would come for legal citizens voting?????????]
OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

[Just like you.....a bald-faced liar!]

And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera.

[Meaning: 'Go ahead and vote....no one will be the wiser!']



The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

[Meaning, I guess....if you are living with lots of other illegals...well, heck, at least some of you should go vote! After all....Trump is trying to get rid of you illegals!]

Thats an edited video, here is the actual unmolested video

As far as investors business daily, they have a mixed record in factual reporting and are right biased.

If you are born in this country, that makes you a citizen. Voting or not voting in no way 'cancels' your citizenship. Therefore, the phrase 'when you vote, you are a citizen yourself' is in no way directed towards people who are already citizens. By process of elimination, if he's NOT referring to citizens, he must be referring to...............? C'mon, you can do it.

 

[dudmuck]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

ok then, pick one of these lies and tell us how its true and not a lie.

While you are searching for any lies by Trump.....see if there are any....ANY....on this level:


Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."



2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"


The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.


NEXT!

1) President Obama encouraged "illegal aliens" to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.
2) Iran never made nuclear weapons during obama years.

Snopes???

You're proving my point about the lying 'fact-checkers."



Watch me rub your face in the lie:

She says 'I' after making clear that she is speaking for illegal aliens.









Transcript:



RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting.

[And that is who she is speaking for!]

So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
[Who would come for legal citizens voting?????????]
OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

[Just like you.....a bald-faced liar!]

And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera.

[Meaning: 'Go ahead and vote....no one will be the wiser!']



The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

[Meaning, I guess....if you are living with lots of other illegals...well, heck, at least some of you should go vote! After all....Trump is trying to get rid of you illegals!]

Thats an edited video, here is the actual unmolested video

As far as investors business daily, they have a mixed record in factual reporting and are right biased.

If you are born in this country, that makes you a citizen. Voting or not voting in no way 'cancels' your citizenship. Therefore, the phrase 'when you vote, you are a citizen yourself' is in no way directed towards people who are already citizens. By process of elimination, if he's NOT referring to citizens, he must be referring to...............? C'mon, you can do it.

No, this video does not show Obama urging undocumented people to vote

So where did all the confusion come from? Well — we blame interviewer Gina Rodriguez in part for this.
Rodriguez, best known for her starring role in “Jane the Virgin,” refers broadly to a fear of voting among “millennials, Dreamers [and] undocumented citizens,” failing to articulate that — while all these people may be concerned about immigration rumors — the millennials are the only ones of the bunch who actually cast a ballot. It’s also confusing that both she and Obama say “citizen,” but mean it in totally opposite ways: She’s referring to undocumented immigrants (“I call them citizens because they contribute to this country”) and he to people who are here legally (“when you vote, you are a citizen yourself”).

Still, you’d have to willfully misinterpret the whole exchange to come away thinking that Obama was encouraging voter fraud. Which is, incidentally, the exact sort of work that channels like “Wake Up America” thrive on (!).

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

ok then, pick one of these lies and tell us how its true and not a lie.

While you are searching for any lies by Trump.....see if there are any....ANY....on this level:


Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."



2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"


The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.


NEXT!

1) President Obama encouraged "illegal aliens" to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.
2) Iran never made nuclear weapons during obama years.

Snopes???

You're proving my point about the lying 'fact-checkers."



Watch me rub your face in the lie:

She says 'I' after making clear that she is speaking for illegal aliens.









Transcript:



RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting.

[And that is who she is speaking for!]

So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
[Who would come for legal citizens voting?????????]
OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

[Just like you.....a bald-faced liar!]

And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera.

[Meaning: 'Go ahead and vote....no one will be the wiser!']



The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

[Meaning, I guess....if you are living with lots of other illegals...well, heck, at least some of you should go vote! After all....Trump is trying to get rid of you illegals!]

Thats an edited video, here is the actual unmolested video

As far as investors business daily, they have a mixed record in factual reporting and are right biased.

If you are born in this country, that makes you a citizen. Voting or not voting in no way 'cancels' your citizenship. Therefore, the phrase 'when you vote, you are a citizen yourself' is in no way directed towards people who are already citizens. By process of elimination, if he's NOT referring to citizens, he must be referring to...............? C'mon, you can do it.

No, this video does not show Obama urging undocumented people to vote

So where did all the confusion come from? Well — we blame interviewer Gina Rodriguez in part for this.
Rodriguez, best known for her starring role in “Jane the Virgin,” refers broadly to a fear of voting among “millennials, Dreamers [and] undocumented citizens,” failing to articulate that — while all these people may be concerned about immigration rumors — the millennials are the only ones of the bunch who actually cast a ballot. It’s also confusing that both she and Obama say “citizen,” but mean it in totally opposite ways: She’s referring to undocumented immigrants (“I call them citizens because they contribute to this country”) and he to people who are here legally (“when you vote, you are a citizen yourself”).

Still, you’d have to willfully misinterpret the whole exchange to come away thinking that Obama was encouraging voter fraud. Which is, incidentally, the exact sort of work that channels like “Wake Up America” thrive on (!).

There will always be the ignorant, willing liars, such as yourself, upon whom the Left relies.

The video shows exactly what I said it shows, and in Hussein's own words.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong

Surely you don't believe this do you???

I mean come on, I strive to be as honest as possible and I am often wrong. And my mistakes usually occur when I take a story, from the left or right, and run with it on face value.

I do think social media or any other outlet "fact checking" anything is usually a farce but that statement from you defies logic.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

ok then, pick one of these lies and tell us how its true and not a lie.

While you are searching for any lies by Trump.....see if there are any....ANY....on this level:


Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."



2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"


The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.


NEXT!

1) President Obama encouraged "illegal aliens" to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.
2) Iran never made nuclear weapons during obama years.

Snopes???

You're proving my point about the lying 'fact-checkers."



Watch me rub your face in the lie:

She says 'I' after making clear that she is speaking for illegal aliens.









Transcript:



RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting.

[And that is who she is speaking for!]

So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
[Who would come for legal citizens voting?????????]
OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.

[Just like you.....a bald-faced liar!]

And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera.

[Meaning: 'Go ahead and vote....no one will be the wiser!']



The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

[Meaning, I guess....if you are living with lots of other illegals...well, heck, at least some of you should go vote! After all....Trump is trying to get rid of you illegals!]

Thats an edited video, here is the actual unmolested video

As far as investors business daily, they have a mixed record in factual reporting and are right biased.

If you are born in this country, that makes you a citizen. Voting or not voting in no way 'cancels' your citizenship. Therefore, the phrase 'when you vote, you are a citizen yourself' is in no way directed towards people who are already citizens. By process of elimination, if he's NOT referring to citizens, he must be referring to...............? C'mon, you can do it.

No, this video does not show Obama urging undocumented people to vote

So where did all the confusion come from? Well — we blame interviewer Gina Rodriguez in part for this.
Rodriguez, best known for her starring role in “Jane the Virgin,” refers broadly to a fear of voting among “millennials, Dreamers [and] undocumented citizens,” failing to articulate that — while all these people may be concerned about immigration rumors — the millennials are the only ones of the bunch who actually cast a ballot. It’s also confusing that both she and Obama say “citizen,” but mean it in totally opposite ways: She’s referring to undocumented immigrants (“I call them citizens because they contribute to this country”) and he to people who are here legally (“when you vote, you are a citizen yourself”).

Still, you’d have to willfully misinterpret the whole exchange to come away thinking that Obama was encouraging voter fraud. Which is, incidentally, the exact sort of work that channels like “Wake Up America” thrive on (!).

For millennials, born in this country, their citizenship is NOT conditional to whether or not they choose to vote. Therefore, the phrase 'when you vote, you are a citizen yourself' is in no way directed towards people who are already citizens. Geez, the mental gymnastics needed to be a liberal is exhausting.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong

Surely you don't believe this do you???

I mean come on, I strive to be as honest as possible and I am often wrong. And my mistakes usually occur when I take a story, from the left or right, and run with it on face value.

I do think social media or any other outlet "fact checking" anything is usually a farce but that statement from you defies logic.

When I first saw on Facebook that Trump had said 'people are dying who have never died before' I just assumed it was a fact, b/c it's precisely the type of thing I could see that idiot actually saying. I mentioned it for weeks later as an example of Trump's stupidity until a conservative buddy soundly corrected me that in fact, was never said by Trump.

So yeah, even the right can be wrong from time to time... :/

 

[Andylusion]

Fact-checking Trump???
Really.....as though those arbiters of 'facts,' of 'truth' are in any way that????

Nope. Far from it.
Here’s why: The Right speaks the truth, and is never wrong, and those ‘fact-checkers’ are the modern version of Izvestia and Pravda.



1.First there was PolitiFact, founded in 2007 by the Leftwing Tampa Bay Times. Giving the Devil his due, no one does propaganda better than the Left. ‘Fact-Checkers’ are nothing more than an extension of the media, and you know whose side they’re on. These iterations are simply the reverse of ‘plausible deniability’…..they are something for Democrat simpletons to quote as ‘see….I told you so!’

2. Giving a wink and a nod to other similar outlets, PolitiFact was awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2009, pretty much authorizing other news organizations to get on board, such as CNN and the Washington Post. If you believe that a Pulitzer Prize is a mark of authenticity, remember, these were the folks who gave Walter Duranty and the NYTimes the prize for lying to the world while their idol, Stalin, starved ten million to death.



3. The value of these fake fact-checkers to the lies that allow the Democrats to alter the course of the nation is beyond calculating. America had the finest healthcare in the world, Americans had the greatest life spans, and lots of folks came here when they needed care, and the huge majority of Americans were very happy with it….but Democrats and their fact-checkers saw a way to grab a major chunk of the economy. With lies.



4. “The 2013 “Lie of the Year” was something Obama had been saying for five years: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.” Conveniently, PolitiFact didn’t even call this a full “lie,” let alone the biggest of the year, until after Obama had faced voters for the last time and he was insulated from any blowback. In 2009 and again in 2012, PolitiFact did check the oft-repeated declaration, rating it “half true” both times. During the 2008 campaign, it declared it to be “true.” The first time PolitiFact checked it, it entitled the piece “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System.” Angie Drobnic Holan, “Obama’s Plan Expands Existing System,” PolitiFact, October 9, 2008, http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/ oct/09/barack-obama/mas-mas-plan-pands-exist-system/.tem/.

That piece says of the lie, “Obama is accurately describing his health care plan here. He advocates a program that seeks to build on the current system, rather than dismantling it and starting over.”

In its conclusion, PolitiFact doubled down on the regurgitating of Democratic campaign talking points: It remains to be seen whether Obama’s plan will actually be able to achieve the cost savings it promises for the health care system. But people who want to keep their current insurance should be able to do that under Obama’s plan. His description of his plan is accurate, and we rate his statement True.”
Derek Hunter, "Outrage, Inc."



The only time one should ever….EVER….accept a fact-checker as telling the truth is when it verifies what the Right is saying.

To put it another way…. Rule #1 Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.

I wouldn't mind fact-checking, if it worked both ways.

But if you are only going to fact-check people you don't like, then I have a problem with that.