The Right and DUTY of Americans

[AshamedAmerican]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Military personnel please take notice.
I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

I am not attempting to in any way incite violent revolution.
However... We should ALL be ashamed to be complacent, placated sheep.

Most american's don't even realize that the "federal" reserve is no more federal than federal express. We've been lied to and ripped off since 1913 and this 700 BILLION dollar fiasco is just the newest episode of the same old whodunit story.
The 700 Billion should be going to the citizens of the united states not the criminals responsible and their friends. And if you think our government will stop them think again, our government is full of the criminals responsible and their friends.

The founding fathers of this country would roll over in their graves if they saw what we have allowed it to become.
And YES we are ALL responsible for what this country has become.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
Those words have never been so true.

Boycott the elections, peacefully protest, write to every elected official.
There's always time for violence and I believe that EVERY alternative should be explored.
That being said we MUST do something.
If it comes down to it, it IS our right, and duty to burn it down and rebuild it, if that is what it takes.

P.S. In the declaration of independence the despotism they so feared has been replaced by Fascism, or to be more acurate Corporatism.
If you do not know the meaning look it up, if you think you know the meaning look it up.
We truly are living in sad sad times and I only hope that the next generation of americans will praise us for stopping this, instead of cursing our names for passing this on to them like a disease.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

WTF is up with all these drive-by spammings?

Is it the same IP?

 

[WillowTree]

he needs and instant passport to the country of his choosing.. yep, that'll do it.

 

[eots]

he needs and instant passport to the country of his choosing.. yep, that'll do it.

there's nowhere else left to run from the socialist menace..this is .. we are.. still the last.. best hope....

 

[editec]

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Okay....you first!

I'll be right behind you...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind you.

I've seen what bullets and bombs do to the human bodies up close and personal, ya' know?

 

[AshamedAmerican]

he needs and instant passport to the country of his choosing.. yep, that'll do it.

I don't want a passport to another country.
I want to be able to say "I am an american" without feeling shame.
I want the next generation to be proud to be american.
And not some misguided sense of loyalty to a nation no citizen should be loyal to.
I want this country to be what it once was, a beacon of hope, prosperity, freedom, liberty, justice.
I want other countries to look up to us, not down on us as they do now.

I hope you realize it's not the american people that the rest of he world hates so passionately, it's our government an their twisted policies.
And that "I'll be WAY behind you" mentality is the very reason we are in this mess.
Most people don't even realize that this country was NEVER intended to be a democracy, The united states was founded as a REPUBLIC!

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
I can guarantee you 100% that if a few million people showed up on the whitehouse lawn things would begin to change very quickly.
It would be them afraid of us, as it should be, not the people too afraid to even speak the word revolution for fear of men in black suits making you disapear.

And yes I said it... REVOLUTION! I'd rather die a patriot than be remembered as a sheep.
Ask yourself this.
How many bandaids can you slap on a country hemoraging civil liberties like a fire hydrant out of control, before it just makes more sense to burn the b@#%h down and start from scratch?

"democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." -Thomas Jefferson

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[Gunny]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Military personnel please take notice.
I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

I am not attempting to in any way incite violent revolution.
However... We should ALL be ashamed to be complacent, placated sheep.

Most american's don't even realize that the "federal" reserve is no more federal than federal express. We've been lied to and ripped off since 1913 and this 700 BILLION dollar fiasco is just the newest episode of the same old whodunit story.
The 700 Billion should be going to the citizens of the united states not the criminals responsible and their friends. And if you think our government will stop them think again, our government is full of the criminals responsible and their friends.

The founding fathers of this country would roll over in their graves if they saw what we have allowed it to become.
And YES we are ALL responsible for what this country has become.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"
Those words have never been so true.

Boycott the elections, peacefully protest, write to every elected official.
There's always time for violence and I believe that EVERY alternative should be explored.
That being said we MUST do something.
If it comes down to it, it IS our right, and duty to burn it down and rebuild it, if that is what it takes.

P.S. In the declaration of independence the despotism they so feared has been replaced by Fascism, or to be more acurate Corporatism.
If you do not know the meaning look it up, if you think you know the meaning look it up.
We truly are living in sad sad times and I only hope that the next generation of americans will praise us for stopping this, instead of cursing our names for passing this on to them like a disease.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

I don't want a passport to another country.
I want to be able to say "I am an american" without feeling shame.
I want the next generation to be proud to be american.
And not some misguided sense of loyalty to a nation no citizen should be loyal to.
I want this country to be what it once was, a beacon of hope, prosperity, freedom, liberty, justice.
I want other countries to look up to us, not down on us as they do now.

I hope you realize it's not the american people that the rest of he world hates so passionately, it's our government an their twisted policies.
And that "I'll be WAY behind you" mentality is the very reason we are in this mess.
Most people don't even realize that this country was NEVER intended to be a democracy, The united states was founded as a REPUBLIC!

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
I can guarantee you 100% that if a few million people showed up on the whitehouse lawn things would begin to change very quickly.
It would be them afraid of us, as it should be, not the people too afraid to even speak the word revolution for fear of men in black suits making you disapear.

And yes I said it... REVOLUTION! I'd rather die a patriot than be remembered as a sheep.
Ask yourself this.
How many bandaids can you slap on a country hemoraging civil liberties like a fire hydrant out of control, before it just makes more sense to burn the b@#%h down and start from scratch?

"democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." -Thomas Jefferson

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

Are you a military vet?

 

[editec]

I don't want a passport to another country.
I want to be able to say "I am an american" without feeling shame.
I want the next generation to be proud to be american.
And not some misguided sense of loyalty to a nation no citizen should be loyal to.
I want this country to be what it once was, a beacon of hope, prosperity, freedom, liberty, justice.
I want other countries to look up to us, not down on us as they do now.

You're not alone there, citizen.

Today's banking plan proves to us that what you want is never going to happen, though.

We have the choice to be either willing tools of the system, unwilling tools of the system, or become marinalized people who are expendable to the system which basically doesn't give a rat's ass whether you live or die.

 

[AshamedAmerican]

No I'm not a vet, I'm just sick to my stomach watching my fellow american's get held down by one government agency while another government agency rapes them.

This is the titanic all over again.
Quick! save all these wonderful rich people while the little guy get's locked below to drown!
Where's the 700 billion dollar bailout for OUR debt?

This is now a country for the rich, by the rich, and at the expense of the rest of us.

I can promise you I will NOT be paying income taxes this year.
I refuse to support organized crime.

I will also be writing in ANY other candidate (if I lower myself to even participate in this fraud), besides obama or mccain.
I refuse to vote for either of the national socialist, excuse me I mean "party" politicians.

Editec you're wrong, we DO have a choice.
We continue to make the same choice (to do nothing out of fear) everyday, and we expect a different result.
That IS the textbook definition of insanity.

Anyone who honestly believes that they don't have a choice, or that votes for either of these puppets, will get exactly what they deserve.

Boycott elections, taxes, and write your local representatives demanding that your state succeed from the union. Stop being so damn afraid and start speaking up if your half as pissed off as I am.

Nothing will EVER change if we don't TRY to change it.
Do you really think these thugs and criminals in charge will just relinquish control out of the kindness of their hearts? Why? They have us all over a barrel with our pants at our ankles and the VAST majority keep chanting "Thank you sir, may I have another!?!"

When it gets to the point that we're not even allowed to speak these words it'll be too late, and EVERY one of you will be kicking yourselves in the arse for not even TRYING.

Refuse to be a sheep/lemming hybrid, refuse to happily march to your death waving the flag and singing the national anthem, refuse to fear common criminals with thousand dollar suits and college diploma's.

Do SOMETHING or don't cry to me when they are tattooing the numbers on you or implanting the chip.

"democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." -Thomas Jefferson

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'
Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' "
- Peter Finch as Howard beale in "Network" 1976

 

[editec]

No I'm not a vet, I'm just sick to my stomach watching my fellow american's get held down by one government agency while another government agency rapes them.

This rape has been happening now for three decades.

This is the titanic all over again.
Quick! save all these wonderful rich people while the little guy get's locked below to drown!
Where's the 700 billion dollar bailout for OUR debt?

exactly

This is now a country for the rich, by the rich, and at the expense of the rest of us.

It has never been much else but that.

I can promise you I will NOT be paying income taxes this year.
I refuse to support organized crime.

Bad idea to annouce that.

I will also be writing in ANY other candidate (if I lower myself to even participate in this fraud), besides obama or mccain.
I refuse to vote for either of the national socialist, excuse me I mean "party" politicians.

You anger is justified, but if you think socialism in the problem you're missing some important details of this royal screwing.

Editec you're wrong, we DO have a choice.
We continue to make the same choice (to do nothing out of fear) everyday, and we expect a different result.
That IS the textbook definition of insanity.

We do? Tell me what YOUR choice AND MINE, really are, then.

Anyone who honestly believes that they don't have a choice, or that votes for either of these puppets, will get exactly what they deserve.

Fine tell me what my choice is. I'm listening.

Boycott elections, taxes, and write your local representatives demanding that your state succeed from the union. Stop being so damn afraid and start speaking up if your half as pissed off as I am.

That's my choice? And you think that will matter how? Are you under the impression I have not been speaking up? Do you think my entreaties have ever had any effect?

Nothing will EVER change if we don't TRY to change it.
Do you really think these thugs and criminals in charge will just relinquish control out of the kindness of their hearts? Why? They have us all over a barrel with our pants at our ankles and the VAST majority keep chanting "Thank you sir, may I have another!?!"

Given that those of us who would not sign onto the system have been systematically disenfranchised from the syste, you are SO preaching to the choir, here.

When it gets to the point that we're not even allowed to speak these words it'll be too late, and EVERY one of you will be kicking yourselves in the arse for not even TRYING.

I have personally stood up to governors, senators, Representatives judges and local officials, dude.

Why do you think I have so much god damned time to write to people like you?

Refuse to be a sheep/lemming hybrid, refuse to happily march to your death waving the flag and singing the national anthem, refuse to fear common criminals with thousand dollar suits and college diploma's.

How? What does " REFUSE" actually mean?

Refuse what? Refuse to pay your bills? Refuse to vote?

That will help how, exactly?

Do SOMETHING or don't cry to me when they are tattooing the numbers on you or implanting the chip.

Do what, exactly?

"democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." -Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson won't help us now, sport. Jefferson was one of the FOUNDERS of this shamocracy, or have you not yet noticed that?

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

Nice words, show me what action you expect you fellow citizens to take.

"I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'
Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' "
- Peter Finch as Howard beale in "Network" 1976

More hot air. Good rant, but useless.

Thinking that complaining is going to solve the problem is delusional.

Complaining ONLY works in a democratic republic.

We do not live in a democratic republic

We live in a SHAMocractic DEpublic.

You seem angry to discover that everything you probably thought you knew is wrong.

I've been this angry about having been lied to now, for about two decades.

Meanwhile all that did for me was make me a loose cannon in the eyes of my fellow citizens.

The reasonable people in this society preferred to watch as our government and the corporations for which bought it, bankrupted my nation and my neighbors one class of workers at a time

Welcome to my world, AA.

You want my solutions?

You won't like them.

 

[AshamedAmerican]

"This rape has been happening now for three decades."
As far as I can tell it's been ALOT longer than that.

This is from newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/history_article.html

The Federal Reserve Act presented by Congressman Carter Glass and Senator Robert L. Owen incorporated modifications by Woodrow Wilson and allowed for a regional Federal Reserve System, operating under a supervisory board in Washington, D.C. Congress approved the Act, and President Wilson signed it into law on December 23, 1913. The Act, "Provided for the establishment of Federal Reserve Banks, to furnish an elastic currency, to afford means of rediscounting commercial paper, to establish a more effective supervision of banking in the United States, and for other purposes.

"and for other purposes" I love that they added that line, straight from the horses mouth eh? Anyway as far as I can tell this country actually had a little integrity before that. December 23, 1913 in my eyes anyway, was the day this country took it's first giant leap off the deepend.

"It has never been much else but that." Covered in above statement I believe.

"Bad idea to annouce that." Why? Anyone can have themselves removed from the income tax system, as I intend to do.

"You anger is justified, but if you think socialism in the problem you're missing some important details of this royal screwing."
Actually that was a wisecrack, as I have mentioned in this thread and others probably I don't bellieve socialism is the threat to us what this IS, is Corporatism. Which is pretty much putting lipstick on the same old pig we call fascism. But I can't possibly imagine why a single person in power at the moment or in the past would want to see corporations succeed while the little guy was drowning. *coughs arbusto oil haliburton kbr coughs*

"We do? Tell me what YOUR choice AND MINE, really are, then."

I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence by this, but for anyone who isn't bright enough to see it on their own "the man behind the curtain" controls the show. And he doesn't like it when others notice him or oppose his will. His deathgrip is white knuckled and he has no intentions of letting go.
So at this stage in the game I would say our ONLY hope is the one choice nobody wants to make...
To enact our constitutional right to remove this government from power, dismantle it, and rebuild it, by force if necessary.

"The reasonable people in this society preferred to watch as our government and the corporations for which bought it, bankrupted my nation and my neighbors one class of workers at a time"

See thats what I'v been trying to explain to people but they just refuse to accept the truth I guess the truth clashes with their tie

"You want my solutions? You won't like them."
I do actually, I'm honestly interested what other people think about the subject. Don't assume until you say what it is.

"More hot air. Good rant, but useless."
It's a quote from the movie "Network" in 1976, not me on some belligerent verbal rampage.
My belligerent verbal rampage is the rest of the text under my name above. jk

 

[AllieBaba]

Maybe you have something to be ashamed about.

I don't. I'm proud to be American. I'm ashamed of the idiot Democrats, but I'm proud that we're able to function despite them.

And I could care less what socialist idiots and tyrannical regimes think of me. THey still kill and climb over their own children to get here and set up shop.

 

[AshamedAmerican]

Maybe you have something to be ashamed about.

I don't. I'm proud to be American. I'm ashamed of the idiot Democrats, but I'm proud that we're able to function despite them.

And I could care less what socialist idiots and tyrannical regimes think of me. THey still kill and climb over their own children to get here and set up shop.

Wow...
I'm gonna sit back and let someone else have the enjoyment of ripping that one to tiny little pieces.

Ok ok just one comment...
So you are proud to be a citizen of a country where you admit in your own words...
"THey still kill and climb over their own children to get here and set up shop."
And then you wonder why I'm ashamed to be from a sick twisted evil empire run by sadistic sociopaths who would gladly stand on a pile of our corpses to get a better view of the country they destroyed?

 

[WillowTree]

sucks to be you

 

[editec]

I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence by this, but for anyone who isn't bright enough to see it on their own "the man behind the curtain" controls the show. And he doesn't like it when others notice him or oppose his will. His deathgrip is white knuckled and he has no intentions of letting go.
So at this stage in the game I would say our ONLY hope is the one choice nobody wants to make...
To enact our constitutional right to remove this government from power, dismantle it, and rebuild it, by force if necessary.

Yeah?

Good idea.

Now show us the STEPS, as in 1, 2, 3, whereby the PEOPLE can pull that off.

What's the FIRST STEP to completely revising our government?

Come on...show us what to do.

don't tell us what the outcome you want it is, because we ALL know that.

Tell us the STEPS we must take (by we, I mean you and me PERSONALLY) can take to effect that change.

You're planning on not paying your taxes...okay, that I understand.

Do you think that will change the system in place?

It only will if everyone agrees to do that.

Hence me "YOU FIRST" quip.

Most people, you know, cannot NOT pay their taxes, as they're taken from them by their EMPLOYER.

How do they NOT pay their taxes?

 

[AshamedAmerican]

Yeah?

Good idea.

Now show us the STEPS, as in 1, 2, 3, whereby the PEOPLE can pull that off.

What's the FIRST STEP to completely revising our government?

Come on...show us what to do.

don't tell us what the outcome you want it is, because we ALL know that.

Tell us the STEPS we must take (by we, I mean you and me PERSONALLY) can take to effect that change.

You're planning on not paying your taxes...okay, that I understand.

Do you think that will change the system in place?

It only will if everyone agrees to do that.

Hence me "YOU FIRST" quip.

Most people, you know, cannot NOT pay their taxes, as they're taken from them by their EMPLOYER.

How do they NOT pay their taxes?

What are you expecting a how to manual on revolution?
I never said "I know all the answers and exactly how this will work."
You don't need to know every intricate detail of a situation, to know what the outcome needs to be.
At least recognizing the situation, and the only guaranteed fix is a start.
Literally decades of work could go into slapping more bandaids on the symptoms, and never coming close to fixing the real root probloems, not to mention that the twisted evil bastards in control would never allow us to fix the problems.

What do you think the steps would be?
Hmm step one grow a backbone.
Step two Learn to think for yourself.
Step three Revolt. (Oh damn where did I leave my "revolution and nation building for dummies" book?)

You can file to have yourself removed from the income tax system.
If enough people did it yes it would make a HUGE impact towards the destruction of the federal reserve.

"It only will if everyone agrees to do that."
No not everyone just ALOT of people.
You could never get EVERYONE to do anything.