Zone1 The Restoration of the Church

Joseph smith was 24. Manson was in his 30s
 
Only weak minded and easily led people believe ithe very non-existent Magica, Mystical, Mythical Sky Man and his equally non-existent son.

Why do libs have such hatred for Almighty God? Are they still petulant about how He retaliated against them when the LGBTQ+ community in Sodom threatened to take the butt cheeks of His holy angels?
 
Why do libs have such hatred for Almighty God? Are they still petulant about how He retaliated against them when the LGBTQ+ community in Sodom threatened to take the butt cheeks of His holy angels?
Don't hate God any more than unicorns. Jut no reason to believe either exist
 
Atheism is no more provable than theism.

The problem with LDS'ism is that Joseph Smith Jr. was a sexual addition that made him a midwestern American oinker boinker champion.
 
Atheism is no more provable than theism.

The problem with LDS'ism is that Joseph Smith Jr. was a sexual addition that made him a midwestern American oinker boinker champion.
So are those your feeling also toward Abraham, Jacob (Israel), Moses, David, etc.
 
So are those your feeling also toward Abraham, Jacob (Israel), Moses, David, etc.
The Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference last month answered all of that.

JSJr was a sex addict.

I am only interested in the facts.
 
But not worth repeating?
You can go online and read it all in a couple of weeks. Active LDS historians at the Conference were Taylor Petry, Barbara Jones Brown, and others.

Members of my tribe were at times polygamous as well as woman stealers. They liked Mexican women, which meant they generally lived. Apache women were at the bottom of the acquisitions list. Rough life for them.

I always try to let the facts of something be the guide.
 
You can go online and read it all in a couple of weeks. Active LDS historians at the Conference were Taylor Petry, Barbara Jones Brown, and others.

Members of my tribe were at times polygamous as well as woman stealers. They liked Mexican women, which meant they generally lived. Apache women were at the bottom of the acquisitions list. Rough life for them.

I always try to let the facts of something be the guide.
Not worth my time. If God instituted the practice among Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, etc. then he certainly can restore that practice at any other time during the earth's temporal existence.

Acts 3:20-21
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
 
Not worth my time. If God instituted the practice among Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, etc. then he certainly can restore that practice at any other time during the earth's temporal existence.

Acts 3:20-21
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
So you act on faith, not fact. But most of the world does that.
 
So you act on faith, not fact. But most of the world does that.
The things you have faith in can also be fact. A child who learns to walk doesn't have proof that s/he can walk but only believe so because s/he sees others doing it and is encouraged to do so and many actual do walk. Faith is actually just believing in things that you believe are true. In a world that is devoid of a knowledge of all truth we have to rely on faith to succeed in much of what we set out to do. If we lived in a world without faith, we would all be curled up in a ball in a corner and probably not live very long.
 
The things you have faith in can also be fact. A child who learns to walk doesn't have proof that s/he can walk but only believe so because s/he sees others doing it and is encouraged to do so and many actual do walk. Faith is actually just believing in things that you believe are true. In a world that is devoid of a knowledge of all truth we have to rely on faith to succeed in much of what we set out to do. If we lived in a world without faith, we would all be curled up in a ball in a corner and probably not live very long.
You accept your prophets on faith. Your BoM and Bible on faith unless certain artifact verify something. But you do you, and that is cool.

But I think men will abuse women far more than they do us.

Polygamy is abuse in our culture.
 
You accept your prophets on faith. Your BoM and Bible on faith unless certain artifact verify something. But you do you, and that is cool.

But I think men will abuse women far more than they do us.

Polygamy is abuse in our culture.
Hebrews 11:1-3
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
 
Hebrews 11:1-3
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
That's just an old way of saying "you gonna believe me or your lying eyes"?
 
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Hebrews 11:1-3
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Never trust a Mormon interp of the Holy Bible. But... faith is personal, so you do you.
 
The things you have faith in can also be fact. A child who learns to walk doesn't have proof that s/he can walk but only believe so because s/he sees others doing it and is encouraged to do so and many actual do walk. Faith is actually just believing in things that you believe are true. In a world that is devoid of a knowledge of all truth we have to rely on faith to succeed in much of what we set out to do. If we lived in a world without faith, we would all be curled up in a ball in a corner and probably not live very long.
A child obviously knows walking is possible, He sees people walking around him.
 
A child obviously knows walking is possible, He sees people walking around him.
Yes, they do have evidence of others walking but they have never done it and don't really know if they can. But based on that evidence, they believe they can and give it a try.

Hebrews 11:1
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 

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