The Reality of Angels

JimBowie1958

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Formal Christian orgs have pretty much abandoned the whole topic of angels to the New Age types, almost as thought the subject were silly or meant only for children.

It is not.

Our Angels are here for us to think on, depend on and comfort us.

Just as Gods primary agency is other people, His second is the accompanying angels that look after us.

The doctrine related to guardian angels is intrinsically connected to the faith in divine Providence. It is probably the faith in Providence that suffers the most from a certain weakness nowadays. We saw it during the coronavirus crisis. God was never really considered this whole time. The best thing that many people said was just that God supported the sick and the efforts of the medical staff, but the fact that cosmos and events are all in God’s hands is no longer that obvious for many Christians, unfortunately.
So I believe that the devotion to guardian angels is a way to recall that Providence has a daily dimension and is part of the very details of our lives.;...

Guardian angels are an instrument of Providence. They aren’t indifferent executors, because everything they do is the fruit of their own charity towards us. One thing we often tend to forget is that angels are part of the Communion of Saints. In heaven, they participate in the joy of the vision of God. They are united to God, and, therefore, they want what God wants: our salvation. They want human beings to sanctify themselves. Thus, guardian angels are, out of love, at the service of human beings to guide them on the path that leads them to God.
However, as everyone may know, this path is full of pitfalls. So we need our guardian angels’ help, which can take a thousand different forms. He can inspire us with good thoughts and resolutions. I like to quote the beautiful film Wings of Desire by Wim Wenders, in which we see guardian angels going around the city of Berlin. In a scene taking place in a bus in Berlin, we see a totally desperate man. He thinks he wasted his life; he even considers suicide. At this point, we see a guardian angel appearing (the character doesn’t see him) and putting his arm around his shoulders, without saying anything. We can feel that he is transmitting something. We hear the man’s internal rumination suddenly stop, while, little by little, his thoughts start going in another direction. He starts seeing some positive aspects about his life: He remembers a nice gesture he received from a friend, he remembers the people who care about him, and he finally starts taking new heart.
This scene is, in my view, a very beautiful way to explain the guardian angels’ action that can inspire us with good thoughts and desires. They can also act on external circumstances of our lives to protect us in difficult times, to avoid accidents, favor encounters with other people, and so on. All these actions belong to Providence, which is made concrete through them.
The feast of the Guardian Angels really is a celebration of divine Providence that uses every creature to guide us toward our Creator. These creatures can, of course, be angels, our cousins in heaven, but also our parents, friends or priests.
 
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"facts" lol
There are 'facts' about angels in terms of the theological concepts that Christianity teaches that are *facts* related to Christian dogma.

You really are a blithering idiot, arent you?
 
"He doesn’t say that we will be like chimpanzees on their banana trees, but like angels. " :lol:
Ok im done. Have fun, Jim.
Bye, loser moron.
Yeah, im the moron :lol:
Yes, you are in that you display no ability to think and apparently feel compelled to attack anything you dont understand. And even when you get it completely wrong, you refuse to admit the fact, try to learn and grow as a person.

That is because you are a self absorbed ass hole.

Welcome to my ignore list, beoch.
 
"He doesn’t say that we will be like chimpanzees on their banana trees, but like angels. " :lol:
Ok im done. Have fun, Jim.
Bye, loser moron.
Yeah, im the moron :lol:
Yes, you are in that you display no ability to think and apparently feel compelled to attack anything you dont understand. And even when you get it completely wrong, you refuse to admit the fact, try to learn and grow as a person.

That is because you are a self absorbed ass hole.

Welcome to my ignore list, beoch.
Wheres the cookies, bizzitch? I dont feel welcome without macadamia nut
 
Formal Christian orgs have pretty much abandoned the whole topic of angels to the New Age types, almost as thought the subject were silly or meant only for children.

It is not.

Our Angels are here for us to think on, depend on and comfort us.

Just as Gods primary agency is other people, His second is the accompanying angels that look after us.

The doctrine related to guardian angels is intrinsically connected to the faith in divine Providence. It is probably the faith in Providence that suffers the most from a certain weakness nowadays. We saw it during the coronavirus crisis. God was never really considered this whole time. The best thing that many people said was just that God supported the sick and the efforts of the medical staff, but the fact that cosmos and events are all in God’s hands is no longer that obvious for many Christians, unfortunately.
So I believe that the devotion to guardian angels is a way to recall that Providence has a daily dimension and is part of the very details of our lives.;...

Guardian angels are an instrument of Providence. They aren’t indifferent executors, because everything they do is the fruit of their own charity towards us. One thing we often tend to forget is that angels are part of the Communion of Saints. In heaven, they participate in the joy of the vision of God. They are united to God, and, therefore, they want what God wants: our salvation. They want human beings to sanctify themselves. Thus, guardian angels are, out of love, at the service of human beings to guide them on the path that leads them to God.
However, as everyone may know, this path is full of pitfalls. So we need our guardian angels’ help, which can take a thousand different forms. He can inspire us with good thoughts and resolutions. I like to quote the beautiful film Wings of Desire by Wim Wenders, in which we see guardian angels going around the city of Berlin. In a scene taking place in a bus in Berlin, we see a totally desperate man. He thinks he wasted his life; he even considers suicide. At this point, we see a guardian angel appearing (the character doesn’t see him) and putting his arm around his shoulders, without saying anything. We can feel that he is transmitting something. We hear the man’s internal rumination suddenly stop, while, little by little, his thoughts start going in another direction. He starts seeing some positive aspects about his life: He remembers a nice gesture he received from a friend, he remembers the people who care about him, and he finally starts taking new heart.
This scene is, in my view, a very beautiful way to explain the guardian angels’ action that can inspire us with good thoughts and desires. They can also act on external circumstances of our lives to protect us in difficult times, to avoid accidents, favor encounters with other people, and so on. All these actions belong to Providence, which is made concrete through them.
The feast of the Guardian Angels really is a celebration of divine Providence that uses every creature to guide us toward our Creator. These creatures can, of course, be angels, our cousins in heaven, but also our parents, friends or priests.
It's clear that angels exist..after all is there not a city in California called, "The City of Angels"? Case closed!

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Formal Christian orgs have pretty much abandoned the whole topic of angels to the New Age types, almost as thought the subject were silly or meant only for children.

It is not.

Our Angels are here for us to think on, depend on and comfort us.

Just as Gods primary agency is other people, His second is the accompanying angels that look after us.

The doctrine related to guardian angels is intrinsically connected to the faith in divine Providence. It is probably the faith in Providence that suffers the most from a certain weakness nowadays. We saw it during the coronavirus crisis. God was never really considered this whole time. The best thing that many people said was just that God supported the sick and the efforts of the medical staff, but the fact that cosmos and events are all in God’s hands is no longer that obvious for many Christians, unfortunately.
So I believe that the devotion to guardian angels is a way to recall that Providence has a daily dimension and is part of the very details of our lives.;...

Guardian angels are an instrument of Providence. They aren’t indifferent executors, because everything they do is the fruit of their own charity towards us. One thing we often tend to forget is that angels are part of the Communion of Saints. In heaven, they participate in the joy of the vision of God. They are united to God, and, therefore, they want what God wants: our salvation. They want human beings to sanctify themselves. Thus, guardian angels are, out of love, at the service of human beings to guide them on the path that leads them to God.
However, as everyone may know, this path is full of pitfalls. So we need our guardian angels’ help, which can take a thousand different forms. He can inspire us with good thoughts and resolutions. I like to quote the beautiful film Wings of Desire by Wim Wenders, in which we see guardian angels going around the city of Berlin. In a scene taking place in a bus in Berlin, we see a totally desperate man. He thinks he wasted his life; he even considers suicide. At this point, we see a guardian angel appearing (the character doesn’t see him) and putting his arm around his shoulders, without saying anything. We can feel that he is transmitting something. We hear the man’s internal rumination suddenly stop, while, little by little, his thoughts start going in another direction. He starts seeing some positive aspects about his life: He remembers a nice gesture he received from a friend, he remembers the people who care about him, and he finally starts taking new heart.
This scene is, in my view, a very beautiful way to explain the guardian angels’ action that can inspire us with good thoughts and desires. They can also act on external circumstances of our lives to protect us in difficult times, to avoid accidents, favor encounters with other people, and so on. All these actions belong to Providence, which is made concrete through them.
The feast of the Guardian Angels really is a celebration of divine Providence that uses every creature to guide us toward our Creator. These creatures can, of course, be angels, our cousins in heaven, but also our parents, friends or priests.
Guardian angels are an instrument of Providence.

Yes this part ^ is very true. The charity that is shared between people comes from being a portion of that spiritual body who does the will of the heavenly father.
 
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christians seldom claim to speak / hear from angels but everyone of them claim to speak and hear from mr big ...

maybe old fogy needs to come out of the rain and see the sunshine. angels need not apply.

what is a fogey, anyway.
 

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