The Real Reason The Left Is Worried About Roe Vs. Wade...

[my2¢]

Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 29 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation/development," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization").

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx


Outside of a legal abortion, killing a fetus is a homicide at least in some states. How can a homicide not mean the fetus is a citizen whose rights have been violated in those states? I don't know why it isn't a homicide in every state, but well, politics.

Roe vs Wade simply restricts states from outlawing abortion. Being overturned won't make abortion throughout the country illegal. But it would allow individual states to decide the matter. Just as the states continue to have the right to determine for themselves what constitutes homicide. As for the individual states you mention, I highly doubt the protection of the fetus in these states is dependent on citizenship, pretty sure the law is the same regarding a fetus of a foreigner.

 

[task0778]

Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 29 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation/development," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization").

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx


Outside of a legal abortion, killing a fetus is a homicide at least in some states. How can a homicide not mean the fetus is a citizen whose rights have been violated in those states? I don't know why it isn't a homicide in every state, but well, politics.

Roe vs Wade simply restricts states from outlawing abortion. Being overturned won't make abortion throughout the country illegal. But it would allow individual states to decide the matter. Just as the states continue to have the right to determine for themselves what constitutes homicide. As for the individual states you mention, I highly doubt the protection of the fetus in these states is dependent on citizenship, pretty sure the law is the same regarding a fetus of a foreigner.

Yeah, but still classified as a homicide, IOW the death of a PERSON. So, citizen or not, at least in those states the unborn baby has rights, no?

 

[my2¢]

Yeah, but still classified as a homicide, IOW the death of a PERSON. So, citizen or not, at least in those states the unborn baby has rights, no?

Sure, but only up to a point. My answer to your original question about rights was that at the national level the Supreme Court doesn't grant a fetus the rights of a citizen. The Roe Vs Wade ruling said a state that outlawed abortion infringed upon the Constitutional rights of the mother. Reversing that ruling won't make abortion illegal throughout the country, but individual states such as those you mention will be able to classify abortion as homicide if they wish.

 

[hunarcy]

Is because they know that it has only withstood judicial scrutiny while Leftist judges have had an influential presence on the Supreme Court. And the only reason it can survive in the presence of Leftist judges, is because Leftists are willing to flaunt the law, and “interpret” meaning that doesn’t exist, from clearly written law that leaves no room for interpretation.
And above all else they fear Roe Vs. Wade will be overturned because they know at the heart of the issue, it is in fact amoral, and unconstitutional. If it were anything but; they’d never fear it being overturned no matter who sits on the bench.

The Constitution guatantees the right to privacy. What is more private that the decision of whether to have a child.

Abortion was legal in the US when the Constitution was written. It wasn’t until women started advocating for the vote that men made abortion illegal.

Taking abortion away from women was punishment for asking for power. It still is.

LMAO! But, it's not "private". It takes 2 to begin a pregnancy and it should take 2 to end it. That's why we need a waiting period to ensure the decision is not made in the heat of the moment. Isn't it obvious that it is to the benefit of all of us to accept some common sense reforms to this "right"?

When men have babies, they can made these decisions. Until then, they should have made their wishes known BEFORE they had sex. It’s not the male who will carry and raise this child.

Your assumption that the decision to have an abortion is made “in the heat of the moment” is about as far from fact as it can get. The woman has had Lots of time to consider. There’s the time between the sex act and the missed period. Then there’s waiting for your period to start. Then there’s going out and getting the pregnancy test and waiting until the next morning. Then there’s making the appointment and going to the clinic.

By the time the woman goes for the appointment, she doesn’t need a waiting period. She’s thought about nothing but her “situation” for weeks.

A waiting period is just another way to force her to carry the baby to term.

Forgive me but you are obviously a zealot and as such, your opinion is tainted by the abortion at any cost crowd. Frankly, it's people like you who stand in the way of reasonable people finding an appropriate solution that will benefit our society and make this a better place to live.