The real reason for face masks

[Seawytch]

ah, yes, my little buttercup, listen to the experts because you know nothing

Fear the Covid. Don’t go anywhere. Shelter in place forever. If enough of you dummies do this, I will enjoy less crowed bars, restaurants, and markets. Plus no more traffic jams. Yippee!

If your state still has a high positivity rate you should be staying at home if possible. Seriously, if you guys want the economy to come back, masks and social distancing are the only way that can be accomplished during the virus.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The scientists and experts say use masks, and the youtube educated gurus say 'no.' Sweden's economy is not much better if at all than any other country's. The herd mentality effort there was not a success, and Sweden took a much larger death total than than a much smaller combined population of Norway, Denmark, and Finland.



Coronavirus: Sweden GDP falls 8.6% in Q2, more than Nordic ...
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Sweden's GDP slumped 8.6% in Q2, more sharply than its neighbors despite its no-lockdown policy. Sinéad Baker. Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 PM. The letter F. An ...

 

[gipper]

ah, yes, my little buttercup, listen to the experts because you know nothing

Fear the Covid. Don’t go anywhere. Shelter in place forever. If enough of you dummies do this, I will enjoy less crowed bars, restaurants, and markets. Plus no more traffic jams. Yippee!

If your state still has a high positivity rate you should be staying at home if possible. Seriously, if you guys want the economy to come back, masks and social distancing are the only way that can be accomplished during the virus.

Oh good. Another one.

 

[charwin95]

Masks are about control.

One of the main reasons for masks is to use as leverage to get people to take the coming vaccine. This very quick video from this ICU nurse explains that:

Then ask Trump to change his own policy ...... wear mask. Trump policy should say don’t wear mask.


Nurse is just making a very dumb stupid opinion. Nurses face or handle sick people. It is heavily recommend that they take flu shots. If you don’t so this dumb nurse will not get sick or give a flu virus to her patients. If you don’t take flu shots. Then wear a stupid mask so you don’t get sick or make your patients sicker. It’s that simple.

Totally wrong.
1. If a nurse gets the flu, which they still do even if they get vaccinated, then you want them to feel bad enough to stay home.
Flu shots do NOT prevent you from getting and spreading flu at all.
They actually increase the spread because they make you feel better, good enough to still show up for work, even when you should stay home because you could spread it.

2. A mask is not going to make much difference.
You will still have virus on your hands if you are sick.
The ONLY prevention is to stay home if you are sick.

1. Technically you are right but in reality you are totally wrong and misinformed. True you can still or might get a flu after vaccination But the percentage of that is extremely very low. If you you are right then we should have a massive flu infections in hospitals and clinics. Don’t you think?
2. Mask. Wrong again. Mask is to prevent the slow or spread of the virus. So you don’t infect me or I don’t infect you. If you are sick go to a hospital.

Viruses are microscopic. Masks are no where near that granular.

Take a bucket of golf balls to a soccer field and tee them up and shoot them at the net. Tell me that the soccer net prevented the golf balls from getting through. Go for it.

Why don't we wear masks for the flu?

Tell that to the scientists, doctors, hospitals and medical experts that recommend mask. BTW who are you to dispute them?
People do wear mask during flu and off season it’s just not a big numbers. Even without the flu season at casinos, air ports and other places some do wear mask..

I play golf regularly mostly on Saturdays. Yes the net will stop the golf ball. Why do you think they even put the net if it’s worthless? Soccer net and golf net is different just incase you don’t know.

A golf net stops golf balls. A soccer net has a larger mesh because it only has to stop a soccer ball. You didn't get the difference? Seriously? I even explained that a soccer net would stop a few golf balls. A virus transmission is not about how many virus cells are stopped, it's about how many get through. Think about it ...

You clearly didn't grasp my virus point. I already gave you the test. Take a bucket of golf balls and shoot them at a soccer net and tell me none of them got through.

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And if masks are so unequivocally good, then why did the doctors telling us to wear them now tell us not to wear them? Which time were they lying?

My God man, how clueless can you be? This was all covered in my post

I know exactly what you posted. It’s dumb. So I gave a dumb rebuttal.
You are here arguing about mask which you don’t even understand let alone talk about virus.

You are anti mask trying to justify how a virus transmitted with a mask.


i listened to NIH, CDC, FDA. I have not seen a doctor telling us not to wear a mask unless it’s a rogue doctor or a Trump supporter.

 

[charwin95]

Masks are about control.

One of the main reasons for masks is to use as leverage to get people to take the coming vaccine. This very quick video from this ICU nurse explains that:

Then ask Trump to change his own policy ...... wear mask. Trump policy should say don’t wear mask.


Nurse is just making a very dumb stupid opinion. Nurses face or handle sick people. It is heavily recommend that they take flu shots. If you don’t so this dumb nurse will not get sick or give a flu virus to her patients. If you don’t take flu shots. Then wear a stupid mask so you don’t get sick or make your patients sicker. It’s that simple.

Totally wrong.
1. If a nurse gets the flu, which they still do even if they get vaccinated, then you want them to feel bad enough to stay home.
Flu shots do NOT prevent you from getting and spreading flu at all.
They actually increase the spread because they make you feel better, good enough to still show up for work, even when you should stay home because you could spread it.

2. A mask is not going to make much difference.
You will still have virus on your hands if you are sick.
The ONLY prevention is to stay home if you are sick.

1. Technically you are right but in reality you are totally wrong and misinformed. True you can still or might get a flu after vaccination But the percentage of that is extremely very low. If you you are right then we should have a massive flu infections in hospitals and clinics. Don’t you think?
2. Mask. Wrong again. Mask is to prevent the slow or spread of the virus. So you don’t infect me or I don’t infect you. If you are sick go to a hospital.

Viruses are microscopic. Masks are no where near that granular.

Take a bucket of golf balls to a soccer field and tee them up and shoot them at the net. Tell me that the soccer net prevented the golf balls from getting through. Go for it.

Why don't we wear masks for the flu?

Tell that to the scientists, doctors, hospitals and medical experts that recommend mask. BTW who are you to dispute them?
People do wear mask during flu and off season it’s just not a big numbers. Even without the flu season at casinos, air ports and other places some do wear mask..

I play golf regularly mostly on Saturdays. Yes the net will stop the golf ball. Why do you think they even put the net if it’s worthless? Soccer net and golf net is different just incase you don’t know.

A golf net stops golf balls. A soccer net has a larger mesh because it only has to stop a soccer ball. You didn't get the difference? Seriously? I even explained that a soccer net would stop a few golf balls. A virus transmission is not about how many virus cells are stopped, it's about how many get through. Think about it ...

You clearly didn't grasp my virus point. I already gave you the test. Take a bucket of golf balls and shoot them at a soccer net and tell me none of them got through.

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And if masks are so unequivocally good, then why did the doctors telling us to wear them now tell us not to wear them? Which time were they lying?

My God man, how clueless can you be? This was all covered in my post

Wear mask it’s good for your brain cells.

 

[charwin95]

Masks are about control.

One of the main reasons for masks is to use as leverage to get people to take the coming vaccine. This very quick video from this ICU nurse explains that:

Then ask Trump to change his own policy ...... wear mask. Trump policy should say don’t wear mask.

Nurse is just making a very dumb stupid opinion. Nurses face or handle sick people. It is heavily recommend that they take flu shots. If you don’t so this dumb nurse will not get sick or give a flu virus to her patients. If you don’t take flu shots.

Why should I ask Trump? I don't even live in the US, but even if I did, I don't put my trust in politicians, and his actions on COVID-1984 have just corroborated what I've said about him from the start... but that's another topic.

What the nurse said is absolutely true, and your response just shows how brainwashed you are.

Then wear a stupid mask so you don’t get sick or make your patients sicker. It’s that simple.

Why should it matter where you live? I am basing members based from their post. If you don’t live here how do you even know the the real life, current events, traditions behaviors, in this country? So where do you rely or where do you get your information from? But you have the audacity to give me a dumb picture that shows how immature you are. I don’t trust the politicians either especially Trump.


Wearing a mask is heavily recommended by scientists, doctors, hospitals and medical experts. Who should we listen? The ignorant people?

Nurse job was sworn to protect the sick not to spread bad information.

You really don't get it. At all. You're being played big time, and like most average TV-watching people, you have fallen for it.

I make my decision based from science. Who should we listen to? Trump? You?

 

[charwin95]

ah, yes, my little buttercup, listen to the experts because you know nothing

Fear the Covid. Don’t go anywhere. Shelter in place forever. If enough of you dummies do this, I will enjoy less crowed bars, restaurants, and markets. Plus no more traffic jams. Yippee!

Just imagine if people like you listened to your macho Rambo tough guy BRILLIANT opinion.
We could be facing a total lock down for a very very long time instead of just temporary. We are not forcing you to wear a mask that is your right but you don’t have the right to infect me.

 

[meaner gene]

Masks are political tools to further get Americans used to doing as we are told. Viruses are microscopic.

Get a pail of golf balls and set up to shoot at a soccer goal. Now his them one at a time into the net and see how many get through. 80%? 90%? That's what use regular masks are to viruses.

Why don't you think we wear masks for the flu, Fake Jake?

This is where lack of scientific knowledge does you a disservice.

A mask protects others, the same way that Gore-tex protects from the rain.

How the GORE-TEX Membrane Works. ... Each microscopic pore is 20,000 times smaller than a water droplet, but 700 times larger than a water vapor molecule, resulting in a membrane that prevents water precipitation like rain and snow from penetrating through into your layers, but still allowing sweat vapor to escape.

A mask blocks coronavirus droplets like gore-tex blocks rain droplets.

 

[gipper]

ah, yes, my little buttercup, listen to the experts because you know nothing

Fear the Covid. Don’t go anywhere. Shelter in place forever. If enough of you dummies do this, I will enjoy less crowed bars, restaurants, and markets. Plus no more traffic jams. Yippee!

Just imagine if people like you listened to your macho Rambo tough guy BRILLIANT opinion.
We could be facing a total lock down for a very very long time instead of just temporary. We are not forcing you to wear a mask that is your right but you don’t have the right to infect me.

Lol. I don’t listen to the Orange bimbo. I do my own research rather than be a lemming for the corrupt MSM and government, like you.

Try to think outside the two party duopoly.

 

[Rigby5]

If you are in your car by yourself with a mask on then please turn In Your license. We do not fear any infection from you other than infectious stupidity.

If I'm only driving a short distance, I'll leave mine on. I use the kind that tie rather than loop on the ears. They aren't as easy to take off and put on but are so much more comfortable if you have to wear one all day.

Masks have been shown to increase blood CO2 by a factor of 8, and greatly decrease blood O2 levels. So you should not wear them any more than necessary.

It's so weird how y'alls "facts" never have associated links.

Debunked myths about face masks

Wearing face masks can help slow the spread of COVID-19. Here are 4 debunked myths about wearing a mask.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

Myth: Wearing a mask will increase the amount of carbon dioxide I breathe and will make me sick.
For many years, health care providers have worn masks for extended periods of time with no adverse health reactions. The CDC recommends wearing cloth masks while in public, and this option is very breathable. There is no risk of hypoxia, which is lower oxygen levels, in healthy adults. Carbon dioxide will freely diffuse through your mask as you breathe.

Totally false.
Health care providers so NOT wear masks for extended periods.
The surgical mask work for extended periods is flimsy.
It is NOT an n95 in any way, shape or form.
Those in isolation wards that do wear n95 masks, do so only a maximum of an hour.
{...
N95 respirators should be removed (doffed) and discarded before activities such as meals and restroom breaks.
...}

 

[Rigby5]

Masks are political tools to further get Americans used to doing as we are told. Viruses are microscopic.

Get a pail of golf balls and set up to shoot at a soccer goal. Now his them one at a time into the net and see how many get through. 80%? 90%? That's what use regular masks are to viruses.

Why don't you think we wear masks for the flu, Fake Jake?

This is where lack of scientific knowledge does you a disservice.

A mask protects others, the same way that Gore-tex protects from the rain.

How the GORE-TEX Membrane Works. ... Each microscopic pore is 20,000 times smaller than a water droplet, but 700 times larger than a water vapor molecule, resulting in a membrane that prevents water precipitation like rain and snow from penetrating through into your layers, but still allowing sweat vapor to escape.

A mask blocks coronavirus droplets like gore-tex blocks rain droplets.

Except that saliva droplets that contain covid-19 viruses are so small they totally evaporate in seconds, leaving ONLY the virus.
If they were larger, they would not remain suspended in the air, and would fall down to the ground.

 

[Rigby5]

ah, yes, my little buttercup, listen to the experts because you know nothing

Fear the Covid. Don’t go anywhere. Shelter in place forever. If enough of you dummies do this, I will enjoy less crowed bars, restaurants, and markets. Plus no more traffic jams. Yippee!

If your state still has a high positivity rate you should be staying at home if possible. Seriously, if you guys want the economy to come back, masks and social distancing are the only way that can be accomplished during the virus.

Wrong.
Social distancing has NEVER succeeded in ending ANY epidemic, ever.
And there is no way social distancing ever can end ANY epidemic, ever.
So as long as we are on the failed social distancing foolishness, the economy can NEVER come back.
Tell me one epidemic that was not ended by herd immunity?
I will tell you the only one that was not ended by herd immunity was Ebola.
And that was ended by quarantine, not social distancing.
The difference is quarantine works as fast as possible, while social distancing goes on forever, and never ends the virus.

 

[WEATHER53]

It’s been a real fun experiment and hoax but all done now

 

[WEATHER53]

The carnivorous Orion’s have contracted with Earth for four billion
humans. They specify docile and compliant and the masks are so they can spot their meals from space

 

[eagle1462010]

Does not matter at all if anyone disagrees.

Fascist statement to the core.

 

[kaz]

Masks are about control.

One of the main reasons for masks is to use as leverage to get people to take the coming vaccine. This very quick video from this ICU nurse explains that:

Then ask Trump to change his own policy ...... wear mask. Trump policy should say don’t wear mask.


Nurse is just making a very dumb stupid opinion. Nurses face or handle sick people. It is heavily recommend that they take flu shots. If you don’t so this dumb nurse will not get sick or give a flu virus to her patients. If you don’t take flu shots. Then wear a stupid mask so you don’t get sick or make your patients sicker. It’s that simple.

Totally wrong.
1. If a nurse gets the flu, which they still do even if they get vaccinated, then you want them to feel bad enough to stay home.
Flu shots do NOT prevent you from getting and spreading flu at all.
They actually increase the spread because they make you feel better, good enough to still show up for work, even when you should stay home because you could spread it.

2. A mask is not going to make much difference.
You will still have virus on your hands if you are sick.
The ONLY prevention is to stay home if you are sick.

1. Technically you are right but in reality you are totally wrong and misinformed. True you can still or might get a flu after vaccination But the percentage of that is extremely very low. If you you are right then we should have a massive flu infections in hospitals and clinics. Don’t you think?
2. Mask. Wrong again. Mask is to prevent the slow or spread of the virus. So you don’t infect me or I don’t infect you. If you are sick go to a hospital.

Viruses are microscopic. Masks are no where near that granular.

Take a bucket of golf balls to a soccer field and tee them up and shoot them at the net. Tell me that the soccer net prevented the golf balls from getting through. Go for it.

Why don't we wear masks for the flu?

Tell that to the scientists, doctors, hospitals and medical experts that recommend mask. BTW who are you to dispute them?
People do wear mask during flu and off season it’s just not a big numbers. Even without the flu season at casinos, air ports and other places some do wear mask..

I play golf regularly mostly on Saturdays. Yes the net will stop the golf ball. Why do you think they even put the net if it’s worthless? Soccer net and golf net is different just incase you don’t know.

A golf net stops golf balls. A soccer net has a larger mesh because it only has to stop a soccer ball. You didn't get the difference? Seriously? I even explained that a soccer net would stop a few golf balls. A virus transmission is not about how many virus cells are stopped, it's about how many get through. Think about it ...

You clearly didn't grasp my virus point. I already gave you the test. Take a bucket of golf balls and shoot them at a soccer net and tell me none of them got through.

View attachment 392664

And if masks are so unequivocally good, then why did the doctors telling us to wear them now tell us not to wear them? Which time were they lying?

My God man, how clueless can you be? This was all covered in my post

I know exactly what you posted. It’s dumb. So I gave a dumb rebuttal.
You are here arguing about mask which you don’t even understand let alone talk about virus.

You are anti mask trying to justify how a virus transmitted with a mask.


i listened to NIH, CDC, FDA. I have not seen a doctor telling us not to wear a mask unless it’s a rogue doctor or a Trump supporter.

You're an idiot. I said masks don't work on viruses, I did not say masks transmit viruses ever anywhere. Another douche leftist liar.

And you were a total moron with the nets. Duh, dar, golf ball nets can stop golf balls kaz, so soccer nets can too.

Dumb ass

 

[kaz]

Masks are political tools to further get Americans used to doing as we are told. Viruses are microscopic.

Get a pail of golf balls and set up to shoot at a soccer goal. Now his them one at a time into the net and see how many get through. 80%? 90%? That's what use regular masks are to viruses.

Why don't you think we wear masks for the flu, Fake Jake?

This is where lack of scientific knowledge does you a disservice.

A mask protects others, the same way that Gore-tex protects from the rain.

How the GORE-TEX Membrane Works. ... Each microscopic pore is 20,000 times smaller than a water droplet, but 700 times larger than a water vapor molecule, resulting in a membrane that prevents water precipitation like rain and snow from penetrating through into your layers, but still allowing sweat vapor to escape.

A mask blocks coronavirus droplets like gore-tex blocks rain droplets.

This after six month ago when the same doctors told us masks didn't work and were actually dangerous. So they do work. Final answer?

Also, again, then why don't we wear masks for the flu if they work for viruses? For the flu, they say wash your hands and don't touch your face. No mention of masks, even around people with complicating conditions

 

[eagle1462010]

Cloth Masks Increase Infection Risk for Healthcare Workers

A new study shows that widespread use of cloth masks by healthcare workers may actually put them at increased risk of respiratory illness and infections.

globalbiodefense.com

The study found respiratory infection was much higher among healthcare workers wearing cloth masks, with the penetration of cloth masks by particles at almost 97% compared to medical masks with 44%.

Professor Raina MacIntyre, lead study author and head of UNSW’s School of Public Health and Community Medicine, said the results of the study caution against the use of cloth masks.

The authors speculate that the cloth masks’ moisture retention, their reuse and poor filtration may explain the increased risk of infection.


Professor MacIntyre, who has completed the largest body of clincial trial research on respiratory protection in health workers internationally, said emerging infectious diseases are not constrained within geographical borders.

“Effective controls of outbreaks and pandemics at the origin impacts us directly, so it is important for global disease control that the use of cloth masks be discouraged in high-risk situations,” she said.

“Despite more than half the world using cloth masks, global disease control guidelines, including those from the World Health Organisation, fail to clearly specify conditions of their use.

“These guidelines need to be updated to reflect the higher infection risk posed by cloth masks, as found in our study.”

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers | BMJ Open

bmjopen.bmj.com

Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.
Conclusions This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.


The authors of this article, published in 2015, have written a response to their work in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. We urge our readers to consider the response when reading the article. A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers | BMJ Open