The Real Donald Trump

[Orangecat]

I'm afraid nobody is intelligent enough to decrypt Trumps ramblings into something that makes sense.

Don’t be afraid, drama queen gene.

 

[Dragonlady]

Dude, try actually making an argument instead of aggression and insults.

Bitch, please. No one needs to "make the argument" that Trump is a racist asshole. It's a proven fact.

Anyone who believes as you do is a total idiot. And every time you post you prove that's what you are.

I have zero patience for arrogant little fuck bois like you telling others what to do.

 

[Yarddog]

This is sad, sorry argument. The confederacy was not the United States, they were traitors who waged war against America. They should not be honored with monuments. Futhermore their statues represent atrocities to some of us. Why should we have to drive or walk by such symbols just because whites want to remember the days they could be overtly racist?

We won't see statues of Bin Laden in America. But that is exactly what confedarte "heroes" represent to us as blacks.

" just because whites want to remember the days they could be overtly racist?"

So this is your opinion... of why some people want statues to remain, and l'm not even defending having those statues, but i am for keeping an open mind when it comes to people having the right to express their thoughts and feelings... which is what demonstrations are for.

And you and other black people who feel threatened by those statues have a right to speak up about it, and when a vote comes down then it is what it is. But what you dont realize is many people who could care less about confederate statues didnt want them torn down ,,simply because they do not believe it to be right that people should be bullied and intimidated into getting rid of monuments. Its not a support of racism but rather a push back on what they see as mob rule. Let it come down to a vote, community to community and that would be fine.


fact is there can be many reasons why someone wants to have statues. You do realize you could say the same thing about statues of George Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson. To "some of us" they are offensive.. represent attrocities.. so anyone who supports them must be......racist or incensitive right?

 

[IM2]

" just because whites want to remember the days they could be overtly racist?"

So this is your opinion... of why some people want statues to remain, and l'm not even defending having those statues, but i am for keeping an open mind when it comes to people having the right to express their thoughts and feelings... which is what demonstrations are for.

And you and other black people who feel threatened by those statues have a right to speak up about it, and when a vote comes down then it is what it is. But what you dont realize is many people who could care less about confederate statues didnt want them torn down ,,simply because they do not believe it to be right that people should be bullied and intimidated into getting rid of monuments. Its not a support of racism but rather a push back on what they see as mob rule. Let it come down to a vote, community to community and that would be fine.


fact is there can be many reasons why someone wants to have statues. You do realize you could say the same thing about statues of George Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson. To "some of us" they are offensive.. represent attrocities.. so anyone who supports them must be......racist or incensitive right?

Yes, it's my opinion because its why those statues were built. We should not be bulied into having to see monuments that represent atrocities done to our ancestors. So when you guys start putting up statues to King George and to the British Army who fought the colonists, let me know.

 

[Dragonlady]

If Trump is everything the Leftist say he is then why do they have to rely on the same tired debunked story where he WAS taken out of context?

Trump Has Condemned White Supremacists - FactCheck.org

Former Vice President Joe Biden wrongly claimed President Donald Trump has "yet once to condemn white supremacy, the neo-Nazis." Trump has specifically condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis on a few occasions.

www.factcheck.org

Someone have the balls to actually read Trumps actual words.


Two days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Trump issued a statement from the White House, and referred to “KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”


During a press conference the following day, Aug. 15, 2017, Trump explained his initial “many sides” comment.

“You had a group on one side that was bad,” Trump said. “And you had a group on the other side that was also very violent.” He added, “I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch.”

Here’s the relevant portion when the president said some in the group protesting the removal of the Lee statue were “very fine people”:

You mean that "hostage video" of a disclaimer. That was after he said NOTHING about what happened for 3 days. Actions speak louder than words and Trump is an openly and avowed racist and white supremacist, as are his policies, past and present.

Trump read from a teleprompter and awkwardly tried to play both sides, condemning non-existent left wing violence. Nobody on the right got beaten or sent to hospital.

Muslim bans, no immigration from "shithole countries". Almost no racial minorities in cabinet or on his staff. Regularly meeting with white supremacists.

" just because whites want to remember the days they could be overtly racist?"

So this is your opinion... of why some people want statues to remain, and l'm not even defending having those statues, but i am for keeping an open mind when it comes to people having the right to express their thoughts and feelings... which is what demonstrations are for.

And you and other black people who feel threatened by those statues have a right to speak up about it, and when a vote comes down then it is what it is. But what you dont realize is many people who could care less about confederate statues didnt want them torn down ,,simply because they do not believe it to be right that people should be bullied and intimidated into getting rid of monuments. Its not a support of racism but rather a push back on what they see as mob rule. Let it come down to a vote, community to community and that would be fine.


fact is there can be many reasons why someone wants to have statues. You do realize you could say the same thing about statues of George Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson. To "some of us" they are offensive.. represent attrocities.. so anyone who supports them must be......racist or incensitive right?

The statues were erected to bully, intimidate and harass former slaves and non-whites into submission, you seem to have no problem with that. I know of no other nation on earth, where traitors to the nation have statues built to them.

You're asking those who have felt bullied by that hate all of their lives, to consider the feelings of those who bully them.

 

[Yarddog]

You mean that "hostage video" of a disclaimer. That was after he said NOTHING about what happened for 3 days. Actions speak louder than words and Trump is an openly and avowed racist and white supremacist, as are his policies, past and present.

Trump read from a teleprompter and awkwardly tried to play both sides, condemning non-existent left wing violence. Nobody on the right got beaten or sent to hospital.

Muslim bans, no immigration from "shithole countries". Almost no racial minorities in cabinet or on his staff. Regularly meeting with white supremacists.


The statues were erected to bully, intimidate and harass former slaves and non-whites into submission, you seem to have no problem with that. I know of no other nation on earth, where traitors to the nation have statues built to them.

You're asking those who have felt bullied by that hate all of their lives, to consider the feelings of those who bully them.

Yeah, Trump waited a few days.. so what. Read whaty he said about that. And now keep in mind how the media that hates Trump regurgitate the same bile back and forth to each other, out of dislike, ignorance and the rush to do political damge. Take for instance recently, news media bashing him over photo ops at Arlington Cemetery.

The only thing they fail to mention is that the families of killed marines invited him there that day. Harris and Biden have YET to honor those families in such a way and have avoided them. Look how the media runs with it though. They rushed that story through like so many others.. intent was made up.

(from politifact)

"We wanted to look at Trump’s comments in their original context. Here is a transcript of the questions Trump answered that addressed the Charlottesville controversy in the days after it happened. (His specific remarks about "very fine people, on both sides" come in the final third of the transcript.)

• • •

Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"

Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."

Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."

Trump: "I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct -- not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don’t make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it’s a very, very important process to me, and it’s a very important statement.

"So I don’t want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts. If you go back to --

Reporter: "So you had to (inaudible) white supremacists?"

Trump: "I brought it. I brought it. I brought it."

Reporter: "Was it terrorism, in your opinion, what happened?"

Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing --"

Reporter: (Inaudible)

Trump: "Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing: When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened.

"Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman, who I hear was a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC -- her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine -- really, actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother, on Twitter, thanked me for what I said.

"And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you, and unlike -- excuse me, unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts."

 

[IM2]

Yeah, Trump waited a few days.. so what. Read whaty he said about that. And now keep in mind how the media that hates Trump regurgitate the same bile back and forth to each other, out of dislike, ignorance and the rush to do political damge. Take for instance recently, news media bashing him over photo ops at Arlington Cemetery.

The only thing they fail to mention is that the families of killed marines invited him there that day. Harris and Biden have YET to honor those families in such a way and have avoided them. Look how the media runs with it though. They rushed that story through like so many others.. intent was made up.

(from politifact)

"We wanted to look at Trump’s comments in their original context. Here is a transcript of the questions Trump answered that addressed the Charlottesville controversy in the days after it happened. (His specific remarks about "very fine people, on both sides" come in the final third of the transcript.)

• • •

Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"

Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."

Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."

Trump: "I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct -- not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don’t make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it’s a very, very important process to me, and it’s a very important statement.

"So I don’t want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts. If you go back to --

Reporter: "So you had to (inaudible) white supremacists?"

Trump: "I brought it. I brought it. I brought it."

Reporter: "Was it terrorism, in your opinion, what happened?"

Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing --"

Reporter: (Inaudible)

Trump: "Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing: When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened.

"Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman, who I hear was a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC -- her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine -- really, actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother, on Twitter, thanked me for what I said.

"And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you, and unlike -- excuse me, unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts."

It doesn't matter if that family invited him. There are rules, and trump broke them. Furthermore, the family did not make trumps team attack the worker who was folowing the rules. Biden and Harris honored the families when the bodies came home. This was a political show by Trump. Nobody celebrated the 2 years prior to this, but suddenly trump shows up during an election year to lay a wreath. And of course you worshippers start running your mouths in defense of this shit show.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[JoeMoma]

And once again you've proved you're really good at LYING.

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Actually IM2 is not really good at lying......unless it's to himself. He is good at interpreting everything through the dogma of "White Racism".

 

[OKTexas]

Actually IM2 is not really good at lying......unless it's to himself. He is good at interpreting everything through the dogma of "White Racism".

That's what race baiters do. He just can't seem to drag himself into the 21st century.

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