I don't hear the media or congressional leaders from BOTH parties calling for Trump to take responsibility. They are calling for him to give a clear and direct condemnation of the hate groups that instigated the violence. Why he tiptoes around this in contrast to how he handles other situations is pretty mind blowing

That's what I meant: "condemnation". Not so much accepting responsibility, but condemning them.

I never heard Obama or any member of Congress condemn BLM or the Occupy Movement. Pelosi and Hillary actually had good things to say about them.

Even legal scholars on the left voiced concerns about the tolerance and even support of lawlessness by Democrats. The rule of law only works if people choose to obey the law, when leaders in government choose not to obey the law, and encourage others to break the law, a lawless society is not far off.
Wow, I actually agree with that statement unless we are talking about the federalism debate as I believe that states have the right to make their own laws if if they are contrary to federal laws within reason

We are talking about human behavior and the inclination of humans to be lawless and corrupt. We have several thousand years of examples. The Federal government does everything it can to take power from the states. State government does everything it can to take power from local communities, and so on and so forth.

The I'm going to get mine mentality has become deeply rooted in government, the law be damned.
So what are you supporting? central government rules all? States rights? Local government rights?

Damn if I know what the solution is to systemic corruption at all levels of government. Or the solution to the two parties who have so rigged elections that short of a billionaire running for office its damn near guaranteed that the bought and paid for party candidate will win.
 
This is the same lame excuse RWs always use and it's as worthless now as it was when they tried to get it past their mommy.

The real question is - Why won't trump condemn domestic terrorism?

We already know why the RWs won't and, truth be told, we know why trump won't as well.

The alt right is a minority though and most Americans will fight you turning us into a fascist nazi police state.


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And, in accordance with my thread 'the question is',

the white supremacist sympathizers show themselves one by one.

No worse than your sympathy with radical black separationist groups, communist insurgents, and radical Islamic groups.

You've shown yourself numerous times to be allied with those shitheads. If not allied with them, pretty damned tolerant of them. That makes you a shithead by proxy.

Don't lie about what I believe. You have more than enough things to lie about to occupy your time.

What you believe is plain as day. I don't sympathize with the neo-nazi movement, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.

Historically leftists have a far larger body count than any movement started by some German paper-hanger. Six million Jews marched off to the gas chambers pales in comparison with the over 150 million people communism has murdered. You don't see that?

150,000,000 > 6,000,000 Simple math, you get it?

And don't tell me communism is different than socialism is different than Marxism is different than Democratic Socialism is different that leftism. They are all one and the same.
That last statement of yours couldn't be more wrong. That's like saying a guy that murders a woman is the same as a guy that rapes a women is the same as a guy that hits a woman is the same as a guy that disrespects a woman.... degrees matter. Stop conflating, it's dishonest and innacurrate.

Do you consider republicans equal to conservatives equal to anarchists?

No, anarchists are generally leftists.

But the general consensus among leftists here is that conservatives=Republicans=fascists=Nazis.

It's been stated that way many times.
Didn't you just call commies the same as socialists and leftists? You're just all over the place. How in the world do anarchists fit into your leftist logic? You were using the big vs small government scale weren't you?
 
That's what I meant: "condemnation". Not so much accepting responsibility, but condemning them.

I never heard Obama or any member of Congress condemn BLM or the Occupy Movement. Pelosi and Hillary actually had good things to say about them.

Even legal scholars on the left voiced concerns about the tolerance and even support of lawlessness by Democrats. The rule of law only works if people choose to obey the law, when leaders in government choose not to obey the law, and encourage others to break the law, a lawless society is not far off.
Wow, I actually agree with that statement unless we are talking about the federalism debate as I believe that states have the right to make their own laws if if they are contrary to federal laws within reason

We are talking about human behavior and the inclination of humans to be lawless and corrupt. We have several thousand years of examples. The Federal government does everything it can to take power from the states. State government does everything it can to take power from local communities, and so on and so forth.

The I'm going to get mine mentality has become deeply rooted in government, the law be damned.
So what are you supporting? central government rules all? States rights? Local government rights?

Damn if I know what the solution is to systemic corruption at all levels of government. Or the solution to the two parties who have so rigged elections that short of a billionaire running for office its damn near guaranteed that the bought and paid for party candidate will win.
Another comment I agree with you about. Something funky is happening today
 
No worse than your sympathy with radical black separationist groups, communist insurgents, and radical Islamic groups.

You've shown yourself numerous times to be allied with those shitheads. If not allied with them, pretty damned tolerant of them. That makes you a shithead by proxy.

Don't lie about what I believe. You have more than enough things to lie about to occupy your time.

What you believe is plain as day. I don't sympathize with the neo-nazi movement, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.

Historically leftists have a far larger body count than any movement started by some German paper-hanger. Six million Jews marched off to the gas chambers pales in comparison with the over 150 million people communism has murdered. You don't see that?

150,000,000 > 6,000,000 Simple math, you get it?

And don't tell me communism is different than socialism is different than Marxism is different than Democratic Socialism is different that leftism. They are all one and the same.
That last statement of yours couldn't be more wrong. That's like saying a guy that murders a woman is the same as a guy that rapes a women is the same as a guy that hits a woman is the same as a guy that disrespects a woman.... degrees matter. Stop conflating, it's dishonest and innacurrate.

Do you consider republicans equal to conservatives equal to anarchists?

No, anarchists are generally leftists.

But the general consensus among leftists here is that conservatives=Republicans=fascists=Nazis.

It's been stated that way many times.
Didn't you just call commies the same as socialists and leftists? You're just all over the place. How in the world do anarchists fit into your leftist logic? You were using the big vs small government scale weren't you?

Wikipedia seems to think so too:

"Anarchism is usually considered an extreme left-wing ideology"

Anarchism - Wikipedia

You do trust Wikipedia, don't you?
 
Even legal scholars on the left voiced concerns about the tolerance and even support of lawlessness by Democrats. The rule of law only works if people choose to obey the law, when leaders in government choose not to obey the law, and encourage others to break the law, a lawless society is not far off.
Wow, I actually agree with that statement unless we are talking about the federalism debate as I believe that states have the right to make their own laws if if they are contrary to federal laws within reason

We are talking about human behavior and the inclination of humans to be lawless and corrupt. We have several thousand years of examples. The Federal government does everything it can to take power from the states. State government does everything it can to take power from local communities, and so on and so forth.

The I'm going to get mine mentality has become deeply rooted in government, the law be damned.
So what are you supporting? central government rules all? States rights? Local government rights?

Damn if I know what the solution is to systemic corruption at all levels of government. Or the solution to the two parties who have so rigged elections that short of a billionaire running for office its damn near guaranteed that the bought and paid for party candidate will win.
Another comment I agree with you about. Something funky is happening today

Its really no longer Dem vs Rep, its the people vs the corrupt political class and their pals.
 
I don't hear the media or congressional leaders from BOTH parties calling for Trump to take responsibility. They are calling for him to give a clear and direct condemnation of the hate groups that instigated the violence. Why he tiptoes around this in contrast to how he handles other situations is pretty mind blowing

Course you're wrong. Mind blowing is ironic. Someone could show you a dog and you'd label it a rock if it satisfied your twisted mind, that's been thoroughly washed by liberal propaganda.
 
........takes the chicken shit route of blaming "BOTH SIDES"........

....and if you wonder why, its simply because many (not all) within his base are clearly home-grown terrorists and the fat orange clown CANNOT spare to piss off his dwindling base.
 
Get over it already. I for one am sick of hearing the whining about Charlottesville.

I've moved on to making black humor jokes about it.
 
........takes the chicken shit route of blaming "BOTH SIDES"........

....and if you wonder why, its simply because many (not all) within his base are clearly home-grown terrorists and the fat orange clown CANNOT spare to piss off his dwindling base.

Wow, comparing this to 9/11?

Both sides did incite violence. You faggot Antifa attack anyone that opposes them, there have been countless videos of it over the last year.
 
........takes the chicken shit route of blaming "BOTH SIDES"........

....and if you wonder why, its simply because many (not all) within his base are clearly home-grown terrorists and the fat orange clown CANNOT spare to piss off his dwindling base.
Exactly.

It’s also why most conservatives refuse to condemn rightwing terrorism: fear that to do so will cost the GOP the votes of hateful bigots and racists Republicans need to win elections.
 
Wow, comparing this to 9/11?

NO, moron...the only comparison is GWB's response to FOREIGN terrorists and the fat orange clown's response to DOMESTIC terrorists.......Ask a grown up to help you comprehend.
 
It’s also why most conservatives refuse to condemn rightwing terrorism: fear that to do so will cost the GOP the votes of hateful bigots and racists Republicans need to win elections.


Right on target........Now watch right wingers respond with, "well, the left wins elections by having illegals vote for them...."..............
.As if an undocumented orange picker is the same as a KKK scum bag.
 
........takes the chicken shit route of blaming "BOTH SIDES"........

....and if you wonder why, its simply because many (not all) within his base are clearly home-grown terrorists and the fat orange clown CANNOT spare to piss off his dwindling base.
Exactly.

It’s also why most conservatives refuse to condemn rightwing terrorism: fear that to do so will cost the GOP the votes of hateful bigots and racists Republicans need to win elections.


Terrorism? They had a legal right to March , yea we know you snowflakes so desperately want to remove the 2nd and 1st amendment and be like Germany where people can get thrown in jail for just mentioning the Nazis ..

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