The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

[sealybobo]

So in all honesty, like Biden, you really approve Tariffs on China and want the Democrats arguing against that to dry up and stop whining?

Sure. And I get trump was bluffing with his initial threat to tariff everything.

 

[sealybobo]

Question. Given that the Democrats are AUTHORITARIANS, why do you use the term liberals. Democrats will brag all day long about the massive amount of laws they pass. I mean it started with FDR and keeps happening now. Biden for example really wanted to ban oil production and recently, days ago, banned oil production around the USA in our seas. He chopped this country away from vast amounts of oil. Was that what you mean by Liberal?

We believe a government of and for we the people run by we the people is best. Corporations need to be properly regulated. But corporations run our country now.

 

[Robert W]

We believe a government of and for we the people run by we the people is best. Corporations need to be properly regulated. But corporations run our country now.

I wish for your sake that this was ever the way the USA has been governed from the start.
Biden ran this country. Soon it will be Trump and Congress.
Corporations bless them create the bulk of jobs for Americans that real small business critter don't have the money to do what Corporations do. I am saying regular people that might work alone or with 2 workers sell us goods. We appreciate them. Corporations get taxed severely and by that i mean we get to pay those taxes for them which adds to our burden we already pay to the Feds. The FEDS double whammy us is all.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are calling the FDA a liar. I am not saying shit. The FDA says what is true.
Those 16 years up to very old age, could get the shots. They reduced the age since children were not getting sick to 12 years to 16 after Biden became president. Trump was not responsible as was FDA.

I gave the actual times the vax became available, while you deliberately scramble them up.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You refuse to read the link to the FDA so here we go when I must expose your lies.

“The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S.”

Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA in individuals 16 years of age and older, and the authorization was expanded to include those 12 through 15 years of age on May 10, 2021. EUAs can be used by the FDA during public health emergencies to provide access to medical products that may be effective in preventing, diagnosing, or treating a disease, provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

FDA-approved vaccines undergo the agency’s standard process for reviewing the quality, safety and effectiveness of medical products. For all vaccines, the FDA evaluates data and information included in the manufacturer’s submission of a biologics license application (BLA). A BLA is a comprehensive document that is submitted to the agency providing very specific requirements. For Comirnaty, the BLA builds on the extensive data and information previously submitted that supported the EUA, such as preclinical and clinical data and information, as well as details of the manufacturing process, vaccine testing results to ensure vaccine quality, and inspections of the sites where the vaccine is made. The agency conducts its own analyses of the information in the BLA to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective and meets the FDA’s standards for approval.

The link above is a cover up for the Trump administrative failures.

 

[sealybobo]

I wish for your sake that this was ever the way the USA has been governed from the start.
Biden ran this country. Soon it will be Trump and Congress.
Corporations bless them create the bulk of jobs for Americans that real small business critter don't have the money to do what Corporations do. I am saying regular people that might work alone or with 2 workers sell us goods. We appreciate them. Corporations get taxed severely and by that i mean we get to pay those taxes for them which adds to our burden we already pay to the Feds. The FEDS double whammy us is all.

Well trust me on this. Even if companies convince us all that they shouldn't pay taxes, they're still going to gouge you for as much as they think they can get away with.

Remember cheap shoes from China? What ever happened to that? Today the shoes come from China and they still cost $100. So they aren't passing on the savings to us. You say they'll pass on the costs well what about the savings?

Corporations don't get taxed severely. They get taxed appropriately. At least they used to before the Reagan/Bush/Trump tax breaks.

Corporations are taxed because they use public services, and are therefore expected to help pay for them - the same as citizens.

Corporations make use of a work force educated in public schools paid for with tax dollars. They use roads and highways paid for with tax dollars. They use water, sewer, and power and communications rights-of-way paid for with taxes. They demand the same protection from fire and police departments as everybody else, and enjoy the benefits of national sovereignty and the stability provided by the military and institutions like NATO and the United Nations, the same as all residents of democratic nations.

In fact, corporations are heavier users of taxpayer-provided services and institutions than are average citizens. Taxes pay for our court systems, which are most heavily used by corporations to enforce contracts. Taxes pay for our Treasury Department and other governmental institutions which maintain a stable currency essential to corporate activity. Taxes pay for our regulation of corporate activity, from assuring safety in the workplace to a pure food and drug supply to limiting toxic emissions.

Under George W. Bush, the burden of cleaning up toxic wastes produced by corporate activity has largely shifted from polluter-funded Superfund and other programs to taxpayer-funded cleanups (as he did in Texas as governor there before becoming President).

Every year, millions of cases of cancer, emphysema, neurological disorders, and other conditions caused by corporate pollution are paid for in whole or in part by government funded programs from Medicare to Medicaid to government subsidies of hospitals, universities, and research institutions funded by tax dollars through the NIH and NIMH.

Because it's well understood that corporations use our tax-funded institutions at least as heavily as do citizens, they've traditionally been taxed at similar rates. For example, the top corporate tax rate in the US was 48% during the Carter administration, down from the a peak of 53% during the Eisenhower and Kennedy years.

Today it stands at 35%, but in May of 2001 Bush administration Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill suggested there should be no corporate income tax whatsoever. This was the opening salvo in a very real war to have working people bear all the costs of the commons and governance, while the wealthy corporate elite derive most of its benefits.

And, as George H.W. Bush pointed out when he was president, this isn't just an American phenomenon. It's a New World Order.

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

A new aristocracy is taking over not just the United States of America but also the world. ... This is more than just a tax cut story.

www.thomhartmann.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well trust me on this. Even if companies convince us all that they shouldn't pay taxes, they're still going to gouge you for as much as they think they can get away with.

Remember cheap shoes from China? What ever happened to that? Today the shoes come from China and they still cost $100. So they aren't passing on the savings to us. You say they'll pass on the costs well what about the savings?

Corporations don't get taxed severely. They get taxed appropriately. At least they used to before the Reagan/Bush/Trump tax breaks.

Corporations are taxed because they use public services, and are therefore expected to help pay for them - the same as citizens.

Corporations make use of a work force educated in public schools paid for with tax dollars. They use roads and highways paid for with tax dollars. They use water, sewer, and power and communications rights-of-way paid for with taxes. They demand the same protection from fire and police departments as everybody else, and enjoy the benefits of national sovereignty and the stability provided by the military and institutions like NATO and the United Nations, the same as all residents of democratic nations.

In fact, corporations are heavier users of taxpayer-provided services and institutions than are average citizens. Taxes pay for our court systems, which are most heavily used by corporations to enforce contracts. Taxes pay for our Treasury Department and other governmental institutions which maintain a stable currency essential to corporate activity. Taxes pay for our regulation of corporate activity, from assuring safety in the workplace to a pure food and drug supply to limiting toxic emissions.

Under George W. Bush, the burden of cleaning up toxic wastes produced by corporate activity has largely shifted from polluter-funded Superfund and other programs to taxpayer-funded cleanups (as he did in Texas as governor there before becoming President).

Every year, millions of cases of cancer, emphysema, neurological disorders, and other conditions caused by corporate pollution are paid for in whole or in part by government funded programs from Medicare to Medicaid to government subsidies of hospitals, universities, and research institutions funded by tax dollars through the NIH and NIMH.

Because it's well understood that corporations use our tax-funded institutions at least as heavily as do citizens, they've traditionally been taxed at similar rates. For example, the top corporate tax rate in the US was 48% during the Carter administration, down from the a peak of 53% during the Eisenhower and Kennedy years.

Today it stands at 35%, but in May of 2001 Bush administration Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill suggested there should be no corporate income tax whatsoever. This was the opening salvo in a very real war to have working people bear all the costs of the commons and governance, while the wealthy corporate elite derive most of its benefits.

And, as George H.W. Bush pointed out when he was president, this isn't just an American phenomenon. It's a New World Order.

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

A new aristocracy is taking over not just the United States of America but also the world. ... This is more than just a tax cut story.

www.thomhartmann.com

Thom? LOL!

 

[Robert W]

Corporations are taxed because they use public services, and are therefore expected to help pay for them - the same as citizens.

No, you pay taxes for the Corporations. They pass them along every time. The Democrats fool you.

 

[sealybobo]

No, you pay taxes for the Corporations. They pass them along every time. The Democrats fool you.

So then they must pass on tax breaks they get to you too EVERY TIME right? RIGHT? You dumb piece of shit.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, you pay taxes for the Corporations. They pass them along every time. The Democrats fool you.

And the corporations pass on the break, yes?

 

[Robert W]

And the corporations pass on the break, yes?

For example a Corporation sells milk. I want you to imagine the Corporation president who got the break telling the market he will not save them money though Other milk producers do it already.

 

[Robert W]

So then they must pass on tax breaks they get to you too EVERY TIME right? RIGHT? You dumb piece of shit.

They do not have to do that. But imagine you run the business that sells milk. And you being a snot won't pass along your savings. You will be undercut by other milk sellers that passed to you the savings.

 

[Robert W]

So then they must pass on tax breaks they get to you too EVERY TIME right? RIGHT? You dumb piece of shit.

Are you a smart piece of shit? I don't understand shit having an IQ!!!

 

[sealybobo]

They do not have to do that. But imagine you run the business that sells milk. And you being a snot won't pass along your savings. You will be undercut by other milk sellers that passed to you the savings.

So, then you now understand that just because they are taxed, does not mean the cost is going to get passed on to you. So now maybe you'll stop saying it.

Otherwise, I'm going to say where is my tax break after Trump delivers the one campaign promise he will deliver, and that's tax breaks to his rich buddies and corporations.

Did you notice prices didn't come down after Trump passed his tax breaks in 2016? Why come? Don't they pass on savings to us consumers?

 

[Robert W]

So, then you now understand that just because they are taxed, does not mean the cost is going to get passed on to you. So now maybe you'll stop saying it.

How can corporations eat Income taxes? As it is, profits normally are about 5 percent. So why would they lose market by not passing the taxes to the customer? Maybe you think all corporations are like the former Sears and Roebuck or Montgomery Wards. Both out of business.

 

[Robert W]

Otherwise, I'm going to say where is my tax break after Trump delivers the one campaign promise he will deliver, and that's tax breaks to his rich buddies and corporations.

Here is the problem for vast amounts of Americans, they either pay no income taxes or are taxed so low they do not feel the lower taxes.

The public loves to beat up on the Rich.

Facts however show the Rich by far are funding the Government for all of us.