Zone1 The possible cost of blacks

[Lisa558]

(1) Let's be fair.

(2) Certain folks did not want to come here.

(3) They were forced to get on jampacked ships and brought here in 1619.

(4) So if anyone is looking for the people responsible for today's America, blame those short-sighted colonists.

Those people and their great-grandchildren are long dead.

(Point taken.)

 

[TheParser]

I do blame the colonists who allowed the slave trade.

I agree with your first sentence.

I would not touch your second sentence with a ten-foot pole.

 

[Hector12]

I agree with your first sentence.

I would not touch your second sentence with a ten-foot pole.

Here is my second sentence, " I think the United States would be a much better country if there were few Negroes here."

You do not seem to be able to refute it either.

 

[Hector12]

Is that what racists are calling themselves now? This country will not revert to the pre-civil rights era, so you should try to find a hobby or something to help you get past your misery.

You have not refuted what I have said. You assume that one must be miserable to tell the truth. I am trying to have a nice polite conversation.

 

[Hector12]

Of course. Nobody hates Americans more than MAGA.

I voted against Trump in 2016 and in 2020.

 

[Hector12]

Then you'll be happy to know homicide rates and single parent household rates among black people have been trending downward for many years now. Maybe that will help you get past whatever caused such bitter hatred against black people in you.

 

[Libby von H]

This chart appears to be well documented. It is also plausible, when we consider the costs of our wellare system, criminal justice system, and crimes committed. I did a Google search for it, and I could not fine any credible rebuttals, only a few shouts of "That's Racist!" We should keep in mind that this chart discusses averages, not absolute differences. There are blacks who pay their way, and whites who are dregs of society.

I am posting this chart, not as The Absolute Truth, but as a topic for debate.



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Makes me yawn.

It was whites that imposed that on Blacks to the detriment of Blacks

Democrat Senator Moynihan said it in the 60's for heavens sake

"The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

And abortion has wiped all the non-financial supports for advancement of Blacks

It even destroyed their once-growing dominance over all other minorities

HERE IS THE BEST OVERVIEW I"VE EVER SEEN
Despite the grand myth that black economic progress began or accelerated with the passage of the civil rights laws and “war on poverty” programs of the 1960s, the cold fact is that the poverty rate among blacks fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent by 1960. This was before any of those programs began.

Over the next 20 years, the poverty rate among blacks fell another 18 percentage points, compared to the 40-point drop in the previous 20 years. This was the continuation of a previous economic trend, at a slower rate of progress, not the economic grand deliverance proclaimed by liberals and self-serving black “leaders.”

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Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%].

Thomas Sowell on the Legacy of Slavery Vs. the Legacy of Liberalism

In a November 15, 2014 article in the New York Times (“When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 4“) op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote that (emphasis added): … the presumption on the part of so many well-meaning white Americans [is] that racism is a historical artifact. They don’t appreciate the...

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[Mr Natural]

Nothing comes easier to a conservative than blind hatred

It’s what they live for.

 

[Moonglow]

That does not even count the political grift that goes on like stealing covid funds and the like.

Which was done mostly by whites

 

[IM2]

Racism is not racial realism. Racial realism tells you that race is a construct and does not really exist.

 

[IM2]

IM2 won't go for it. In IM2's racist mind, all of America's woes are of the white persuasion.



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Documented public policy shows what I say to be true. Anecdotes on twitter mean nothing.

 

[Hector12]

Makes me yawn.

It was whites that imposed that on Blacks to the detriment of Blacks

Democrat Senator Moynihan said it in the 60's for heavens sake

"The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

And abortion has wiped all the non-financial supports for advancement of Blacks
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It even destroyed their once-growing dominance over all other minorities
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HERE IS THE BEST OVERVIEW I"VE EVER SEEN
Despite the grand myth that black economic progress began or accelerated with the passage of the civil rights laws and “war on poverty” programs of the 1960s, the cold fact is that the poverty rate among blacks fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent by 1960. This was before any of those programs began.

Over the next 20 years, the poverty rate among blacks fell another 18 percentage points, compared to the 40-point drop in the previous 20 years. This was the continuation of a previous economic trend, at a slower rate of progress, not the economic grand deliverance proclaimed by liberals and self-serving black “leaders.”

…..

Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%].

Thomas Sowell on the Legacy of Slavery Vs. the Legacy of Liberalism

In a November 15, 2014 article in the New York Times (“When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 4“) op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote that (emphasis added): … the presumption on the part of so many well-meaning white Americans [is] that racism is a historical artifact. They don’t appreciate the...

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Whites are not responsible for the fact that so many blacks took advantage of the welfare system. One forth of blacks have IQ's below 75. They knew they were incapable of earning the good life, so they chose the easy life on welfare. Those people are useless, and frequently dangerous.