The portion of the repub party that is pro-Putin is alarming

[Doc7505]

They're tough-talking but none of them are picking up a rifle and doing anything about it.

It is however, correct that no American wants another World War and certain Europe is also in that category.
The problem is weakness within our White House and the bad decisions made over the past year.

 

[Doc7505]

Do you really want American pilots to go toe to toe with Russian pilots.
And when we start "Top Gunning" the MIGS, what do you think Putin will do with his nuclear forces he put on high alert?

Obviously, you forget that American pilots have previously fought Russian pilots in North Korea and Vietnam.
How could Putin justify interference since his government has previously involved his troops in
N. Korea, Vietnam and now in Syria.

Korean War: How the MiG-15 put an end to American mastery over the skies

The superiority of the excellent MiG-15 was one of the key factors that led to Russian pilots emerging on top in the air war over Korea.

www.rbth.com

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How the Soviets fought against the Americans in Vietnam (PHOTOS)

Soviet servicemen had no small part to play in what was to become the most bitter defeat in U.S. history.

www.rbth.com

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Russian soldiers/pilots in Vietnam?

There is a youtube link that confirms Russian soldiers fought along w/NVA troops. article from yahoo questions

combatace.com

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[Darkwind]

Putin is not going to start a nuclear war, and he isn't going to start a war with NATO. So quit pushing that BULLSHIT.

We aren't going to start a war with Russia either, so we're not sending in NATO.

This invasion of Ukraine is the biggest blunder in military history, not to mention the most inhumane act, since the Nazis attacked Russia.

Putin was a flaming idiot for ordering the invasion of Ukraine. Before the invasion he was winning the diplomatic standoff, now he's destroying Russia as well as Ukraine.

He's an idiot, like yourself.

The war in Ukraine is going the way the NATO generals planned it...only a bit better.

Okay, I'm done with you. You clearly lack the mental capacity to understand what it is I'm talking about.

 

[schmidlap]

Patriots in the US should be supporting Putin.

Your alienation from America is noted.

Perchance, the Trump goons who attacked the U.S, Congress and are still being convicted and confessing could be allowed to form the "Savvy Genius Brigade" and be air-dropped on a Kyiv children's hospital.

 

[Redfish]

The war criminal Pootin will never conquer the Ukrainian people. You are just another MAGA Pootin Lover...

Not a Putin lover at all. the guy is a KGB thug who only knows how to kill. But I am also a realist. Ukraine is not worth the death of one US kid in uniform. If you think it is, then send your kids.

 

[Redfish]

You're confused dummy.

Private companies buy the oil.

Damn son, grow up.

they would not be buying russian oil if senile Joe hadn't shut down the pipeline and all drilling permits. This is all on Biden and his liberal asshole friends.

seems that you are the one that needs to grow up.

 

[Clipper]

they would not be buying russian oil if senile Joe hadn't shut down the pipeline and all drilling permits. This is all on Biden and his liberal asshole friends.

seems that you are the one that needs to grow up.

Any thoughts on what Putin's asseater Trump thinks of Sergey Lavrov who Trump fawned over in the Oval Office? Lavrov just threatened the U.S. The same Lavrov who idiot Benjamin Trump revealed secret intel to in that meet & greet.

What a sickening & telling display that was.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

well lay it out for us. What's the plan to repel the Russians? At least BEFORE they level the major cities like they did in Chechnya and Syria recently.

Explain to the class why UKRAINE IS GONNA WIN and unicorns will fart rainbows - why dontcha? MTG COULD BE RIGHT.. Even if she is weird and simple.

We shouldn't be tempting WW3 on the HOPES that miracles will happen.

Ukraine has already won.

 

[Redfish]

Any thoughts on what Putin's asseater Trump thinks of Sergey Lavrov who Trump fawned over in the Oval Office? Lavrov just threatened the U.S. The same Lavrov who idiot Benjamin Trump revealed secret intel to in that meet & greet.

What a sickening & telling display that was.

It would be if it really happened, but it didn't. The media lied to you about the whole thing. Tell me this, why would it be bad for the USA to have good relations with Russia? Why do you libs want constant wars? Your senile old Joe is going to get us into a shooting war with Russia, would that make you happy? There were no new wars under Trump, why isn't that a good thing? We were energy independent under Trump, why isn't that a good thing. You pretend to hate Russia but you are OK with us buying their oil, WTF dude?

 

[Redfish]

Ukraine has already won.

don't think so, its far from over. But in the end Ukraine will revert to being part of Russia. Unless stupid old Joe gets us into it. How many american kids in uniform should we sacrifice for Ukraine? give us a number.

 

[Delldude]

There are 3 points in this "speech" where she points out that Ukraine "cannot win".

I think that crosses a line.Firstly I doubt her qualifications to make comment on that. It sounds very Lord Haw Haw to me.
There is a legitimate position to saying that other countries should not get involved in Russias illegal war. But this just seems to be Russian propaganda.

Putin is an enemy to the US and all freedom loving democratic countries. What does this wretched woman gain by supporting him ?
That is a question that needs an answer.

That is undeniable proof she supports Putin?

She is telling the truth about this war. Putin will overwhelm as he is already doing. Matter of time.

If you think she crossed a line, Biden already told Putin we don't want to engage Russia.....up front, prior to any Putin actions.....so Putin got the green light. If MTG;s comments are over the line, so is Biden's.

 

[Delldude]

Ukraine has already won.

I seriously doubt that is or will happen. At best, Putin will have an insurgency war forever while he controls the country.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It would be if it really happened, but it didn't. The media lied to you about the whole thing. Tell me this, why would it be bad for the USA to have good relations with Russia? Why do you libs want constant wars? Your senile old Joe is going to get us into a shooting war with Russia, would that make you happy? There were no new wars under Trump, why isn't that a good thing? We were energy independent under Trump, why isn't that a good thing. You pretend to hate Russia but you are OK with us buying their oil, WTF dude?

I really havent seen any politician in any country advocate for war against Russia. So your dated isolationism is not really relevant.
Your support for putin is entwined in your partisan politics and perhaps that limits your vision on this.
The US is bound to Europe by treaty and that sets limits on isolationism.Limits that every US President has understood.
Russia is a gangster run kleptocracy where democracy is dead along with the freedoms we enjoy in the west. We all share an interest in opposing that.
Apart from the traitor wing of the GOP and other alt right trash that have been paid for in the west.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That is undeniable proof she supports Putin?

She is telling the truth about this war. Putin will overwhelm as he is already doing. Matter of time.

If you think she crossed a line, Biden already told Putin we don't want to engage Russia.....up front, prior to any Putin actions.....so Putin got the green light. If MTG;s comments are over the line, so is Biden's.

She is acting as a cheerleader for a right wing gangster trying to destroy a democratic nation.. She could easily have said that Russia cannot win this war but didnt.

You might cut her some slack due to her increible stupidity But she is an elected politician who should at least give a nod to democracy.

 

[Mac1958]

I really havent seen any politician in any country advocate for war against Russia. So your dated isolationism is not really relevant.
Your support for putin is entwined in your partisan politics and perhaps that limits your vision on this.
The US is bound to Europe by treaty and that sets limits on isolationism.Limits that every US President has understood.
Russia is a gangster run kleptocracy where democracy is dead along with the freedoms we enjoy in the west. We all share an interest in opposing that.
Apart from the traitor wing of the GOP and other alt right trash that have been paid for in the west.

Observing what they're saying, it's clear that this is another one of their shallow, amazingly simplistic and binary thought processes.

Remember, it's Good or Evil. It's pure capitalism or pure communism. One or the other. A or B. Those are the only available options.

In this particular case, it's nationalism or globalism (a huge word in their current vernacular). Vlad is a nationalist. So that's a plus for him.

 

[Redfish]

I really havent seen any politician in any country advocate for war against Russia. So your dated isolationism is not really relevant.
Your support for putin is entwined in your partisan politics and perhaps that limits your vision on this.
The US is bound to Europe by treaty and that sets limits on isolationism.Limits that every US President has understood.
Russia is a gangster run kleptocracy where democracy is dead along with the freedoms we enjoy in the west. We all share an interest in opposing that.
Apart from the traitor wing of the GOP and other alt right trash that have been paid for in the west.

Ukraine is not part of NATO, we owe them nothing. Russia is a corrupt nation run by a dictator, so is Ukraine and so are China and Iran. We cannot defeat all the evil in the world, nor can we police the world or remake it in our image. We should practice what Teddy Roosevelt said and Trump implemented PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. That is the only way for our nation to survive and prosper. The constant wars that you lefties want will destroy our country--------------and the entire world.

She is acting as a cheerleader for a right wing gangster trying to destroy a democratic nation.. She could easily have said that Russia cannot win this war but didnt.

You might cut her some slack due to her increible stupidity But she is an elected politician who should at least give a nod to democracy.

Hmm, do you apply the same stupidity test to AOC and Pelosi? BTW, Ukraine is not a democratic nation, it is as corrupt as Russia and China. Biden's problem is that Ukraine was laundering his family's money.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Ukraine is not part of NATO, we owe them nothing. Russia is a corrupt nation run by a dictator, so is Ukraine and so are China and Iran. We cannot defeat all the evil in the world, nor can we police the world or remake it in our image. We should practice what Teddy Roosevelt said and Trump implemented PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. That is the only way for our nation to survive and prosper. The constant wars that you lefties want will destroy our country--------------and the entire world.

Hmm, do you apply the same stupidity test to AOC and Pelosi? BTW, Ukraine is not a democratic nation, it is as corrupt as Russia and China. Biden's problem is that Ukraine was laundering his family's money.

Once again your parochial partisanship colours your view of the world. You have no serious points to make.

 

[Delldude]

She is acting as a cheerleader for a right wing gangster trying to destroy a democratic nation.. She could easily have said that Russia cannot win this war but didnt.

You might cut her some slack due to her increible stupidity But she is an elected politician who should at least give a nod to democracy.

No comment on the left wing crime syndicate member now destroying our country, just righties.

Regarding giving a nod to democracy, send a memo the the squad and other members of the democrat base.

 

[Chillicothe]

We were energy independent under Trump, why isn't that a good thing

Ummm?
The good poster Redfish seemingly is implying we are NOT energy independent now.

Which begs the question: What is poster Redfish's definition of 'energy independent'?

What is it, Red?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Observing what they're saying, it's clear that this is another one of their shallow, amazingly simplistic and binary thought processes.

Remember, it's Good or Evil. It's pure capitalism or pure communism. One or the other. A or B. Those are the only available options.

In this particular case, it's nationalism or globalism (a huge word in their current vernacular). Vlad is a nationalist. So that's a plus for him.

A bit like old westerns where the baddies wear black hats.
These people still believe that isolationism is a valid policy despite the US being attached to the rest of the world by treaty
Biden is playing a clevdr game here, albeit it is quite cynical. Better to fight Russia in Ukraine than to fight hem in Poland or the Baltic.
The russian military is being reduced to a rabble. Their economy is collapsing and Putins hold is weakening. When it is over we can rebuild Ukraine using siezed Russian gangster money and no western lives will have been lost.
I cant understand why the Goppers arent happy with this.

Its a better strategy than painting a few bombers in chinese livery. Of course I am not a strategist like Ex Pres Trump.