rightwinger
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I stand corrected. Cutting shipping costs will benefit many people but if you're a competitor you may be hurt. If your company doesn't get the construction contract, you may be hurt.
As for how taxes are spent, it should be transparent and there should be a robust debate. Taxes, debt, and spending are a complex issues, some are good and some are bad. Any simple statement concerning them is just plain wrong.
Diver Diva
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Do you read her posts? I do.
PoliticalChic is probably wasting her time with the leftists here, because they either don't understand or don't bother to read her posts.
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Yer a real honey, DD
In full disclosure, I feel the mission is the government school grads who have never had a chance to consider the truth.
If you look at the stats on 'Active Topics' you will see that 5 to 10 times more read threads than post on them.
Those are the folks I would like to read my threads.
I always provide links and sources so the reader can further their education.
But thank you for your kind words and thoughts.
Debating how to redistribute private wealth is not a legit use of any US gov't, especially our federal gov't. If individual states choose to enact such policies people can and will respond with their feet. WashDC has no biz shoving that crap up everyone's nose.
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She's wasting her time because she can't think for herself or answer a simple question, she can only cut and paste. Any bot can do that, she's hardly special.
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"...she can only cut and paste."
The fools who imagine (I almost said 'think') that that is a pejorative.
1. And, as your reward, a lesson on 'cut and paste.'
a. You see, one who has been exposed to learning will often see the value of providing points of view from one with status or expertise in the area under discussion. And, in my view, to provide same without my words, adds the impact for which I strive.
b. Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)
c. Now, here’s where you come in: “A valid objection to this selection of sources may be the type of audience being addressed. Is the ‘pasted selection’ aimed at a specialized or a general audience? Do you find the level ‘over your head’ or is this source too elementary?” LibGuides: Critically Analyzing Information Sources: Critical Appraisal and Analysis)
2. Further, my posts, which you attempt to characterize in a pejorative manner, are perfect for the political nature of the USMB…as they represent an aspect of diversity which adds vitality to the board. Surely you notice that some posts are clever, funny and witty, some bark and bawl, erupt in rage and bile, some are data and information-based.
a. Your reason for posting, it seems, is akin to the reasons you hung out in the boys bathroom in middle school, and require just as much effort: you mumble a few inconsequential utterances.
b. So, you see, each of us works to ability!
On the contrary, that is exactly what we should be doing. Almost everything the gov't does is in reaction to a real-world problem, not an ideological game.
Do you want a strong military? How strong? Do you want an interstate highway system, medicare, medicaid, social security, a border wall?
I do have to admit you have cutting and pasting down to an art. What I should have said was:
She's wasting her time because she can't think for herself or answer a simple question, but boy can she cut and paste.
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It's simply your excuse for never having accumulated the slightest bit if knowledge in what is laughingly called your 'education.'
Want another chance to respond to the post you found....an irritant?
Sure thing:
How the production and exchange of goods is accomplished is a re-telling of the major difference in view between the Founder’s nation, and that of one under the thumb of Progressives, Democrats.
Second only to a gun to the head, a position the Left has never been loath to pursue, control of a nation’s economy is the best way to force a population to be compliant.
It’s all about dependency.
1.With the Enlightenment came the view that mankind can do anything, can know everything, and is without limits in relation to the universe.
It gave rise to the French Revolution, and the end of religion as no longer useful: man became God. And no matter where and how often the idea came to chaos and destruction…..it persists today as communism, Progressivism, socialism, and Liberalism.
That attitude metastasized in the following way…”After…the industrial mobilization that produced victory in World War II, …the academic discipline of economics acquired the confidence of a scientific profession.
…John Kennedy exemplified the serene postwar confidence in the management of the economy…a basic discussion of the sophisticated and technical questions involved in keeping a great economic machinery moving ahead….basically an administrative or executive problem.” George Will.
2. The powers failed to recognize that the expertise was far more than one of economics; it was political Nixon went further in the error, also believing that economics was simply one of administration….he failed so miserably that he instituted wage and price controls, “the most aggressive peacetime expansion of government power over the economy in American history.”
By the late 70s, stagflation: no growth and a 13% inflation rate.
3. To understand the what Reagan, and later, Trump did, requires an understanding of the conservative views of the Founders, and compare that to the ‘government-as-god’ doctrines of the Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, who incorporate the ideas of Rousseau, Hegel, and Marx.
Reagan was elected to try his conservative hand at fixing the problem, using market forces rather than government. His understanding of the problem can be seen in his quip…The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
To be sure, a capitalist economy, a free market economy, is a government creation to the extent that government ensures transparency through reliable information, and the freeing of markets from government control.
4. But, never count the Progressives out of the equation, as they control the media and the schools, and sure enough, economists made their way back, while discounting and denying the unmitigated success of the Reagan ‘golden age.’
Until they tripped up again….2008.
Any mistakes???
Or, do you feel unequipped to challenge my post.
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7. When the politics behind the economy is taken into consideration, the Progressives and their command and control policies fail in comparison….so they lie about the success of the other side.
Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.
George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan
Reaganomics - Wikipedia
The benefits from Reaganomics:
If it is Progressives in charge of the economy, with their need to control, regulate, order and command....
8. Remember how we learned that Hussein saved us from a depression???? Not.
“The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression." Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression - Reuters
“Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay
The good times may be over for good. In a speech to the Economic Club of New York yesterday, US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the US GDP growth rate, adjusted for inflation, is now projected to run a little above 2% a year.”
Team Obama: Sorry, America, the 'new normal' may be here to stay - AEI
Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.
George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan
Reaganomics - Wikipedia
The benefits from Reaganomics:
- The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
- Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
- Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
- Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
- The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/taxes/ustax.shtml
- Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116
If it is Progressives in charge of the economy, with their need to control, regulate, order and command....
8. Remember how we learned that Hussein saved us from a depression???? Not.
“The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression." Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression - Reuters
“Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay
The good times may be over for good. In a speech to the Economic Club of New York yesterday, US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the US GDP growth rate, adjusted for inflation, is now projected to run a little above 2% a year.”
Team Obama: Sorry, America, the 'new normal' may be here to stay - AEI
Nice job of cherry-picking the numbers, I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure. As I recall, Reagan was not the economic god he has been portrayed to be.
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"...I'm sure I could come up with as slanted a set to show he was a miserable failure."
But you didn't, did you, hot air?
What you did do is prove what I wrote...
When the politics behind the economy is taken into consideration, the Progressives and their command and control policies fail in comparison….so they lie about the success of the other side.
georgephillip
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Since the IRS figures prominently in distributing "private" wealth without any democratic input, why would you object to popular redistribution?
"Remember when Donald Trump, Steve Mnuchin, Gary Cohn, Wilbur Ross, Tom Barrack, Steve Schwarzman, Steve Roth, The Mooch, Andy Beal, John Paulson, Carl Icahn and Larry Kudlow were going to get together and create a tax reform plan that killed the carried interest loophole and made life harder for financier billionaires?"
Carried Interest Loophole - life NOT harder for financier billionaires
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Progressivism as a major movement movement started with the Second Great Awakening, and the movement continued to be religiously based until about the 1930's when it began to merge with another older ideology; liberalism.
This is of course how the radical progressive anthem 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' got it's apocalyptic verbiage, and how 'America the Beautiful' called for divine intervention to "mend thine every flaw"
This is of course how the radical progressive anthem 'Battle Hymn of the Republic' got it's apocalyptic verbiage, and how 'America the Beautiful' called for divine intervention to "mend thine every flaw"
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9. “…there are two basic economic models: voluntary market exchanges and exchanges administered by government commands and controls. The former, called capitalism, is what freedom looks like in economic affairs. It is the consensual pursuit of happiness between contracting or otherwise cooperating individuals or groups of them. The most elegant and enduring affirmation of this is almost a quarter of a millennium old, and its publication coincided with the birth of the nation in which capitalism would most spectacularly succeed.
In 1776, in The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith argued that ‘the sovereign- the government- has no ‘duty of superintending the industry of private people, and of directing it towards the employment most suitable of the interest of society.”
George Will
10. And the two major political philosophies:
That of America’s Founders, classical liberals, and today’s conservatives:
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
And that of Progressives, socialists, communists, Fascists, Nazis and Modern Liberals:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup
Only one of these is taught in government school.
Sadly.
In 1776, in The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith argued that ‘the sovereign- the government- has no ‘duty of superintending the industry of private people, and of directing it towards the employment most suitable of the interest of society.”
George Will
10. And the two major political philosophies:
That of America’s Founders, classical liberals, and today’s conservatives:
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
And that of Progressives, socialists, communists, Fascists, Nazis and Modern Liberals:
the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup
Only one of these is taught in government school.
Sadly.
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You may try to hide the provenance of Progressivism, but it comes from the same source as communism and Nazism....and demands the same end for society.
Progressives, socialists, communists, Fascists, Nazis and Modern Liberals:
...the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
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