That coming from someone supporting laws that punish abortion with a life sentence but rapists off with a comparative slap on the wrist...
The Personhood of the unborn needs to be settled
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Cecilie1200
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I do believe that if you are pro-abortion, you have nothing to say to anyone else about morality, and should be ashamed of flattering yourself like that.
It is always fully human, the question is at what point does it 's's rights equal or exceeds the mothers? It isnt a parasite or "lump of flesh". But neither does it have individual rights and responsibilities until birth.
C_Clayton_Jones
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As already correctly noted, it was settled over 40 years ago.
As a fact of constitutional law, an embryo/fetus is not a person, a fact settled, accepted, and beyond dispute.
Your logic fails. Treating a crash victim does not utilize another person's body or life against their will.
Humanity alone does not confer rights or personhood.
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I don't remember if I posted this link for satrebil. but here goes.
Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League
BrokeLoser
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Conservatives:
“We want you to pay for your own children.”
Filthy Pieces Of Shits:
“What...you think my children are better off dead?”
The level of Loon from you LefTarded folks grows by the day.
Filthy Pieces of Shit: we wont help you with your kids but we sure as hell will force you to bear them.
Conservatives:
“We want you to pay for your own children.”
Filthy Pieces Of Shits:
“What...you think my children are better off dead?”
The level of Loon from you LefTarded folks grows by the day.
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One of the lead architects of the Alabama bill made this view even more plain when he stated that the measure, which purports to protect fertilized eggs, embryos, and fetuses, would not actually apply to all embryos. After all, if you argue that life begins at conception, that’s a big problem for I.V.F. In the name of protecting “life,” anti-abortion legislators could functionally outlaw fertility treatments that involve fertilizing eggs and selecting the strongest embryos for implantation. But don’t worry, said Alabama State Senator Clyde Chambliss: “The egg in the lab doesn’t apply. It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”
In other words, it’s not about the life of a fertilized egg at all. It’s about controlling women.
Alabama’s Abortion Bill Is Immoral, Inhumane, and Wildly Inconsistent
playtime
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& as a woman - if she doesn't believe in choice, then it is her choice not to have an abortion. yep --- it really is that simple.
BrokeLoser
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Filthy Pieces of Shit: we wont help you with your kids but we sure as hell will force you to bear them.
Conservatives:
“We want you to pay for your own children.”
Filthy Pieces Of Shits:
“What...you think my children are better off dead?”
The level of Loon from you LefTarded folks grows by the day.
LefTard Logic:
Filthy Pieces Of Shits = Those who expect people to pay for their own children
Not Filthy Pieces Of Shits = Those who expect others to pay for their children.
Folks, I’m not making this shit up.
Cecilie1200
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you can call it whatever the you want, it ain’t a person that anyone has any empathy for and it will in a civilized society never have rights over ACTUAL people you want to force into continuing pregnancy and having an unwanted child.
You are so ass-backward. YOU are the one engaged in "calling it what you want." I am telling you what biology says it s, and why, and you are airily waving your hand and saying, "**** that factual shit. I see it this way, so that's how it is, and if I just declare my ignorant fantasies to be fact enough time, the Blue Fairy will wave her wand and make me somehow not a dumbass."
Please attempt to be an adult, or at least a homo sapien, and grasp the reality that your emotions matter only to you. The universe is not dictated by how your egotistical ass feels about it. A fetus is a person, whether three-toothed mouthbreathing primates like you feel good about it or not. Your lack of empathy is a problem you need to take up with your group therapy session; it does not stop a fetus from being the living, individual human organism (colloquially known by grade-school dropouts like you as "a person") it is any more than it would stop the planet Saturn from having rings around it if your Almighty Megalomaniac self "had no empathy" for it.
Furthermore, your emotional buzzwords of "force into pregnancy" don't work on me, because unlike you, I don't think with my glands. You'll want to learn some new tricks if you want to talk to the higher life forms, Fido.
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Except the Bird, Reptile, and Pig are recognized for what they are and not classified as a substandard version of their species for the means of setting a political agenda.
LOL!!!! except so called 'pro lifers' want a post born female already experiencing a life history is to be considered a substandard version of their species & not have autonomy over their own uterus. then when the host is no longer useful & the cord is cut, then 'pro lifers' consider their job is done & whatever happens next is not any of their concern especially if it has to do with money being used to take care of any children forced to term.
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AS for the illustration you got off on that implied human embryos could be a bird, reptile or pig, that is total hogwash. It is a human being in an early stage of development. A human being who cuts a first tooth is in a stage of development in which his pain is translated into a cry for help. A human being who commits to an act of unprotected sex that results in a mass of human cells implanting into its mother's womb is in the first stages of human development. The male participant in this pleasant gift of sex is the father, and the female participant is the mother. Their genes are combined into a brand new and separate human being, who like the father needing some female pleasure, needs a home. The time for her to elect not giving a new human being in his first stage of development should have read a book instead of having sex with someone who considered her just an object and possibly, vice-versa.
If you can kill a fetus, don't be surprised if the world doesn't just decide killing anyone who makes you feel obligated will just live with your murder and won't care for you or think of you ever again since your death was just an unpleasant occurance in a world full of murderous killers looking for a thrill of killing, which is the wont of serial killers.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. It was true then, and it will be true when women change the world into a place that accepts murderers without the blink of an eye or one iota of caring.
You kill your own, you get a world of killing ahead of you, and that's how it is. I did not make the rules of the world, I just know what they are. Don't shoot the messenger because you support killing unborn human beings (who will never be pigs, by the way), you're going to find the dice roll will be on you sooner than you think.
I hope that was actually addressed to PLAYTIME, not to me, because I agree with you, I was not the one who posted that illustration. I was the one who posted the meme mocking the misconceptions people have about the preborn. I think you accidentally quoted me instead of him.
her. i am a her. & it's not a misconception. your silly meme was equating a zygote, an embryo, a fetus & a post born person with a history as all being the same. they certainly are not.
lol.....
playtime
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AS for the illustration you got off on that implied human embryos could be a bird, reptile or pig, that is total hogwash. It is a human being in an early stage of development. A human being who cuts a first tooth is in a stage of development in which his pain is translated into a cry for help. A human being who commits to an act of unprotected sex that results in a mass of human cells implanting into its mother's womb is in the first stages of human development. The male participant in this pleasant gift of sex is the father, and the female participant is the mother. Their genes are combined into a brand new and separate human being, who like the father needing some female pleasure, needs a home. The time for her to elect not giving a new human being in his first stage of development should have read a book instead of having sex with someone who considered her just an object and possibly, vice-versa.
If you can kill a fetus, don't be surprised if the world doesn't just decide killing anyone who makes you feel obligated will just live with your murder and won't care for you or think of you ever again since your death was just an unpleasant occurance in a world full of murderous killers looking for a thrill of killing, which is the wont of serial killers.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. It was true then, and it will be true when women change the world into a place that accepts murderers without the blink of an eye or one iota of caring.
You kill your own, you get a world of killing ahead of you, and that's how it is. I did not make the rules of the world, I just know what they are. Don't shoot the messenger because you support killing unborn human beings (who will never be pigs, by the way), you're going to find the dice roll will be on you sooner than you think.
I hope that was actually addressed to PLAYTIME, not to me, because I agree with you, I was not the one who posted that illustration. I was the one who posted the meme mocking the misconceptions people have about the preborn. I think you accidentally quoted me instead of him.
Sorry. I thought you posted the gravestone picture that said "The fetus isn't human," "Skin cells are human too", "Ejaculation kills millions of humans", the cold-hearted commentary that "The Fetus is a Parasite," "Life doesn't begin at conception" (a lie), "The fetus is a clump of cells." (no, it's still the first stage in the life of a human being, and drinking alcohol at this time can render that infant without body parts or with a severely disfigured face.) "It's (only) a part of the woman's body" (not true, it is not like its mother genetically, and is the starting stage of an entirely different human being's life), and "the embryo isn't even alive." If it weren't alive it would not be forming cells to become organs, limbs, and features similar to other human beings by the DNA of that INDIVIDUAL life that is damn certainly not its mother, and it's not it's father. It is a new human being in its formative stage. Cute little sayings that are little white lies will never amount to the value of one unborn American that is savagely and brutally murdered and drug out of a woman's body. Not ever.
So I was answering the post you put in. Most people put something in their posts in the form of an answer to the person they are communicating with. I wish you had indicated the gravestone picture with the natty false narrative sayings in it was someone else's contribution, Buttercup. the right thing to do is to credit the "picture" to whoever posted that picture, and not leave it to the guesswork that it was your idea to bring it here.
I did post that, but it was a meme showing those false statements with an image of a grave with the words "Here lies basic biology." In other words, people who say those things don't know basic biology.
I'm sorry if that meme was confusing at first glance, but as you can see by all my other posts, rest assured I am firmly pro-life.
if you think a 6 week old embryo is the same as a 6year old child then it is you who is scrambled in the knowledge of biology, sweety.
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the same people who scream the loudest about the 'sanctity of life' have no problems about turning a blind eye to brown children & their mamas.
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Cecilie1200
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AS for the illustration you got off on that implied human embryos could be a bird, reptile or pig, that is total hogwash. It is a human being in an early stage of development. A human being who cuts a first tooth is in a stage of development in which his pain is translated into a cry for help. A human being who commits to an act of unprotected sex that results in a mass of human cells implanting into its mother's womb is in the first stages of human development. The male participant in this pleasant gift of sex is the father, and the female participant is the mother. Their genes are combined into a brand new and separate human being, who like the father needing some female pleasure, needs a home. The time for her to elect not giving a new human being in his first stage of development should have read a book instead of having sex with someone who considered her just an object and possibly, vice-versa.
If you can kill a fetus, don't be surprised if the world doesn't just decide killing anyone who makes you feel obligated will just live with your murder and won't care for you or think of you ever again since your death was just an unpleasant occurance in a world full of murderous killers looking for a thrill of killing, which is the wont of serial killers.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. It was true then, and it will be true when women change the world into a place that accepts murderers without the blink of an eye or one iota of caring.
You kill your own, you get a world of killing ahead of you, and that's how it is. I did not make the rules of the world, I just know what they are. Don't shoot the messenger because you support killing unborn human beings (who will never be pigs, by the way), you're going to find the dice roll will be on you sooner than you think.
I hope that was actually addressed to PLAYTIME, not to me, because I agree with you, I was not the one who posted that illustration. I was the one who posted the meme mocking the misconceptions people have about the preborn. I think you accidentally quoted me instead of him.
Sorry. I thought you posted the gravestone picture that said "The fetus isn't human," "Skin cells are human too", "Ejaculation kills millions of humans", the cold-hearted commentary that "The Fetus is a Parasite," "Life doesn't begin at conception" (a lie), "The fetus is a clump of cells." (no, it's still the first stage in the life of a human being, and drinking alcohol at this time can render that infant without body parts or with a severely disfigured face.) "It's (only) a part of the woman's body" (not true, it is not like its mother genetically, and is the starting stage of an entirely different human being's life), and "the embryo isn't even alive." If it weren't alive it would not be forming cells to become organs, limbs, and features similar to other human beings by the DNA of that INDIVIDUAL life that is damn certainly not its mother, and it's not it's father. It is a new human being in its formative stage. Cute little sayings that are little white lies will never amount to the value of one unborn American that is savagely and brutally murdered and drug out of a woman's body. Not ever.
So I was answering the post you put in. Most people put something in their posts in the form of an answer to the person they are communicating with. I wish you had indicated the gravestone picture with the natty false narrative sayings in it was someone else's contribution, Buttercup. the right thing to do is to credit the "picture" to whoever posted that picture, and not leave it to the guesswork that it was your idea to bring it here.
Yes, buttercup posted the picture of the gravestone. Did you notice that the gravestone says, "Here lies basic biology"? As in, all of those excuses and lies are the death of basic biological knowledge, because they ignore and deny it?
Maybe instead of kneejerking into action to lecture and attack people, you should take a breath and consider that SHE didn't post incorrectly; you just didn't take time to understand what you were seeing.
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Wrong!
Laws are created by a belief system as to what is "good": or "bad". There is no divorcing morality from the law, the only question becomes, whose beliefs? That is why human beings have many rights animals don't. The belief is that human beings have innate rights from God that animals do not have because God made man in his own image and not animals. That is why we are free to lock animals up in zoos, keep them as pets for our personal amusement, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them.
Now many on the godless Left has seen this and disagreed with this, and rightly so since they deny the belief that man has innate rights. At least they are consistent with those beliefs. But this is dangerous territory. You could then make the presumption that since man has no innate rights under God, then our rights are subject to the whims of lawmakers. Next thing you know all of our rights might go bye, bye, or we will end up treating animals better than we treat ourselves.
That seems to be where Progressives seem to be headed.
the hyde amendment that has been around since the 70s has made it so no federal funds are used for abortion except in the extreme cases where it is medically necessary & i believe no less than 3 physicians have to sign off on it.
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