The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again, But This Time The Judge Won’t Stand For It

[Little-Acorn]

Washington Times?
WTF?
Are you serious?

TRANSLATION: Shit, you caught us again. I can't refute anything you wrote, so I'll attack the messenger instead, and try to pretend there's something wrong with the story without saying anything concrete I can be held responsible for.

 

[depotoo]

No, it didn 't. That is your wish. It only funded dhs, not his executive action.

at the end of the day the Republicans caved on HS, which funded the immigration EO making this thread totally irrelevant ... just like all your totally irrelevant threads.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Washington Times?
WTF?
Are you serious?

TRANSLATION: Shit, you caught us again. I can't refute anything you wrote, so I'll attack the messenger instead, and try to pretend there's something wrong with the story without saying anything concrete I can be held responsible for.

LOL You notice they didn't refute what the Times reported. Attacking the source is only revealing you can't refute the content

 

[Siete]

Boehner said a continued fight over Homeland Security funding isn't practical with so many terrorism threats. "With more active threats coming into the homeland, I don't believe that's an option," he said. "Imagine if, God forbid, another terrorist attack hits the United States."

Some conservative members said the House Republican leadership was capitulating to the Senate and President Obama, and not fulfilling its obligation to uphold the Constitution by allowing what they consider an illegal immigration order to continue.

"No one disagrees that we should keep our nation safe, but I simply could not vote for a bill that contains illegal funding and ignores our Constitution. If the Constitution isn't worth standing up for, then I don't know what is," said freshman Rep. Ralph Abraham, R-Alto.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Wow.

little siete has nothing to say about the OP, but he keeps posting anyway.

You can smell the leftist fear and desperation.

 

[NoNukes]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

Heard about this yesterday.

Obama's lawyers lied to the court. Nothing new here. They lied to the Supreme Court too while Obamacare's constitutionality was being decided.

A poititions lied? Shocking. Alert the media.

 

[DarkFury]

at the end of the day the Republicans caved on HS, which funded the immigration EO making this thread totally irrelevant ... just like all your totally irrelevant threads.

at the end of the day the Republicans caved on HS, which funded the immigration EO making this thread totally irrelevant ... just like all your totally irrelevant threads.

Funding a program does NOT make it legal.
Violating a standing court order IS.
THAT judge CAN place those lawyers in jail AND withdraw ALL those permits.

 

[The Rabbi]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

Heard about this yesterday.

Obama's lawyers lied to the court. Nothing new here. They lied to the Supreme Court too while Obamacare's constitutionality was being decided.

A poititions lied? Shocking. Alert the media.

You're really quite stupid, right? Lawyers for the government lied. They are officers of the court. That is a gross violation of the terms of their service and probably a dozen laws.

 

[Siete]

at the end of the day the Republicans caved on HS, which funded the immigration EO making this thread totally irrelevant ... just like all your totally irrelevant threads.

at the end of the day the Republicans caved on HS, which funded the immigration EO making this thread totally irrelevant ... just like all your totally irrelevant threads.

Funding a program does NOT make it legal.
Violating a standing court order IS.
THAT judge CAN place those lawyers in jail AND withdraw ALL those permits.

I damn sure worded that one poorly didn't I ?

Republicans caved on their half assed threat to defund HS, and ignored the immigration eo ...

several immigration EO's have been put into effect before Obama.

Reagan And Bush Made Immigration Executive Orders - Business Insider

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

Heard about this yesterday.

Obama's lawyers lied to the court. Nothing new here. They lied to the Supreme Court too while Obamacare's constitutionality was being decided.

A poititions lied? Shocking. Alert the media.

You're really quite stupid, right? Lawyers for the government lied. They are officers of the court. That is a gross violation of the terms of their service and probably a dozen laws.

My husband is an attorney and if he knowingly lied to a judge I would full expect him to be held in contempt...or worse

 

[g5000]

Funding a program does NOT make it legal.
Violating a standing court order IS.
THAT judge CAN place those lawyers in jail AND withdraw ALL those permits.

They did not violate a court order. There was no court order not to delay deportations until last month.

Once Obama's EO went into effect in November, immigration officials began issuing three-year delayed deportations (which the Washington Times erroneously calls "amnesty").

100,000 such reprieves were granted between November and February. Then, in February, a judge ordered a freeze on reprieves.

What the Obama Administration failed to mention at that time was that they had already granted 100,000 reprieves. They committed a lie of omission.

 

[NoNukes]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

Heard about this yesterday.

Obama's lawyers lied to the court. Nothing new here. They lied to the Supreme Court too while Obamacare's constitutionality was being decided.

A poititions lied? Shocking. Alert the media.

You're really quite stupid, right? Lawyers for the government lied. They are officers of the court. That is a gross violation of the terms of their service and probably a dozen laws.

And are rarity in politics. Gotcha.

 

[DarkFury]

Funding a program does NOT make it legal.
Violating a standing court order IS.
THAT judge CAN place those lawyers in jail AND withdraw ALL those permits.

They did not violate a court order. There was no court order not to delay deportations until last month.

Once Obama's EO went into effect in November, immigration officials began issuing three-year delayed deportations (which the Washington Times erroneously calls "amnesty").

100,000 such reprieves were granted between November and February. Then, in February, a judge ordered a freeze on reprieves.

What the Obama Administration failed to mention at that time was that they had already granted 100,000 reprieves. They committed a lie of omission.

Obama's EO violated federal law. And EACH violation is counted as a violation of that law. Those lawyers CAN go to jail and those "reprieves" as you call them HAVE been ruled ILLEGAL at this point.

Might I remind you that in order to get a reprieve you HAVE to be guilty of something? HE circumvented the LAW for 100k PLUS criminals. That crap don't fly in Texas.

 

[BlindBoo]

Just have to wait and see.

Justice asks court to lift hold on Obama immigration actions TheHill

While the Justice Department immediately asked Hanen to lift his temporary delay, he said the court will not consider it until a hearing March 19. The administration is expected at that hearing to explain why it processed 100,000 extended work permit renewals for illegal immigrants under new policies announced by the president.

DHS has contended that those policy chances were announced back in November and were not halted until the judges order. But Texas, the lead plaintiff in the case against the government, hasaccused the Obama administration of misleading the court, as officials had said the major policies wouldn’t go into effect until late February and March.

 

[rightwinger]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

Heard about this yesterday.

Obama's lawyers lied to the court. Nothing new here. They lied to the Supreme Court too while Obamacare's constitutionality was being decided.

I may be wrong, but I think they lied to the American people month after month by denying that Obamacare was a tax and then admitted it was a tax when they pled the case to the Supreme Court.

They were also corrected on several occasions because they didn't want us to know it was a tax. Justice Roberts rewrote the damned thing for them specifying that it was a tax.

The court never ruled that Obamacare was a tax

It only applied to the individual mandate

 

[Siete]

Funding a program does NOT make it legal.
Violating a standing court order IS.
THAT judge CAN place those lawyers in jail AND withdraw ALL those permits.

They did not violate a court order. There was no court order not to delay deportations until last month.

Once Obama's EO went into effect in November, immigration officials began issuing three-year delayed deportations (which the Washington Times erroneously calls "amnesty").

100,000 such reprieves were granted between November and February. Then, in February, a judge ordered a freeze on reprieves.

What the Obama Administration failed to mention at that time was that they had already granted 100,000 reprieves. They committed a lie of omission.

Obama's EO violated federal law. And EACH violation is counted as a violation of that law. Those lawyers CAN go to jail and those "reprieves" as you call them HAVE been ruled ILLEGAL at this point.

Might I remind you that in order to get a reprieve you HAVE to be guilty of something? HE circumvented the LAW for 100k PLUS criminals. That crap don't fly in Texas.

bullshit. That crap flew in Texas when Reagan and Bush drove the bus .. End of story.

 

[g5000]

Obama's EO violated federal law.

The final decision on that is still out.

Might I remind you that in order to get a reprieve you HAVE to be guilty of something?

I have actually used the analogy of a death row inmate many times in this situation. The EO is not amnesty. It is a stay. The inmates were not pardoned and released, just granted a stay of execution.

It is erroneous to call the EO "amnesty".

But Congress will one day grant amnesty. The GOP Congress. In the meantime, Obama has kept the inmates from being executed until such time as the GOP pardons them.

The GOP is mad because they are too chickenshit to inject the poison and want Obama to be the heavy.

 

[g5000]

80 percent of America wants the illegal to be given legal status or a path to citizenship.

Yes, I can back that up. I have several times when challenged.

When it is convenient, the GOP will drone on and on about the Will of the People™. Except in this case, which demonstrates they are raging hypocrites.

The GOP wanted Obama to be the bad guy and throw out the illegals against the wishes of the American people. Obama wouldn't play along, and that pisses them off.

Instead of heeding the Will of the People™, the GOP is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. They are hostage to the kind of people we see on this forum who hate Mexicans. Topic after topic after topic, blaming the spics for measles and welfare and Ebola and job stealing.

The 20 percent. That's who the GOP is afraid of. Pants-shitting terrified.

How funny is that, by the way? Blaming Mexicans for stealing our jobs AND living on welfare. BWA-HA-HA-HA!

 

[Care4all]

What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive

Yesterday, it was revealed by The Washington Times that earlier in the week, lawyers for the Obama administration admitted they had lied during recent court proceedings on immigration and had already approved over one-hundred thousand cases of executive amnesty. This was in direct conflict with testimony given to Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who issued a stay in Obama’s executive actions that would allow five million illegal immigrants to stay in the country legally. In other words, the lawyers who were trying to appeal the judge’s stay lied to the judge during the initial arguments.

You can’t make this stuff up.

The Washington Times reports:

President Obama’s lawyers misled a federal judge when they said they weren’t approving any applications under his expanded deportation amnesty, Texas charged in new court papers Thursday that said the breach is serious enough that the courtshould allow legal discovery to get to the bottom of the matter.

The Obama Admin Just Got Busted Again But This Time The Judge Won t Stand For It

liar liar, pants on fire!
From your Washington Times link

But on Tuesday department lawyers informed Judge Hanen they may have left him with a wrong impression when they said they hadn’t carried out any of the president’s new policies.

Mr. Obama’s Nov. 20 announcement offered a number of different benefits to illegal immigrants, including expanding eligibility for his 2012 amnesty for Dreamers and boosting the amount of time he was granting an amnesty form deportation and permits for legal work from two years to three years.

While the administration hadn’t begun collecting applications under the expanded eligibility, it had awarded tens of thousands of three-year permits to applicants who had qualified as Dreamers under the original rules from 2012, administration lawyers told the court.

USCIS has told immigrant rights activists it has stopped and is only granting two-year renewals now, in a tacit admission that it believes Judge Hanen’s injunction affects all parts of Mr. Obama’s November announcement.

Sooooo, NO ONE in Obama's NEW program was added or processed etc....

There are NOT 100,000 of the illegals Obama spoke of delaying deportation in his Nov 20th speech. There are ZERO illegal immigrants from his Nov 20th new deferred action processed.

There are Dreamers since Nov 20th that have been issued a 3 year delay instead of a 2 year delay.

These ARE NOT the illegal immigrants that Obama spoke of delaying deportation on Nov. 20th who are the parents of USA Citizen children that Texas is suing over.

They did make a mistake by not telling the judge they had extended Dreamers, a deferred action group established a few years earlier, that DHS processed before the ruling from the judge but after Nov. 20th, giving them 3 year delays, vs the 2 year delays when obama first initiated the DREAMER program.

 

[Vigilante]

Immigration - Rasmussen Reports