The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[Open Bolt]

I have asked repeatedly for a link to this 40 page letter of Mac's he has never provided it. Nor any links to any supposed peace offers from the Big6

The reason why no evidence of those things is ever provided is because those things never happened.

 

[elektra]

I have asked repeatedly for a link to this 40 page letter of Mac's he has never provided it. Nor any links to any supposed peace offers from the Big6

you must first attain the xrt 9000 alternative universe history shifter

 

[DudleySmith]

I have asked repeatedly for a link to this 40 page letter of Mac's he has never provided it. Nor any links to any supposed peace offers from the Big6

I've done several searches for that over the years, it's myth these tards keep parroting, since they all get their idiot theories from the same sources, but indeed never existed. The earliest references to it I can find on the web is from a article footnote in The Historical Review after a bunch of neo-Nazis took that journal over, and in literary sources from a bibliography in an old book by the John Birch Society, both appear to be false claims, the neo-Nazis were citing the John Bircher book as a source..

 

[Unkotare]

President Dwight Eisenhower, the Allied commander in Europe during World War II, recalled in 1963, as he did on several other occasions, that he had opposed using the atomic bomb on Japan during a July 1945 meeting with Secretary of War Henry Stimson: "I told him I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon."

Hiroshima: Military Voices of Dissent | Origins

Almost six decades after the fact, the 1945 unleashing of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima continues to be the subject of impassioned debate. Every year the bombing anniversary — which falls on August 6 — occasions heated exchanges between those who question the atomic bombing and those who...

origins.osu.edu

 

[Unkotare]

"Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, the tough and outspoken commander of the U.S. Third Fleet, which participated in the American offensive against the Japanese home islands in the final months of the war, publicly stated in 1946 that "the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment." The Japanese, he noted, had "put out a lot of peace feelers through Russia long before" the bomb was used. "

 

[Unkotare]

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Contrary to popular belief, however, not all Pacific war veterans applaud the atomic annihilation of two Japanese cities.

Responding to a journalist's question in 1995 about what he would have done had he been in Truman's shoes, Joseph O'Donnell, a retired marine corps sergeant who served in the Pacific, answered that "we should have went after the military in Japan. They were bad. But to drop a bomb on women and children and the elderly, I draw a line there, and I still hold it." "

 

[Unkotare]

"Doug Dowd, a Pacific-theater rescue pilot who was slated to take an early part in the invasion of Japan if it had come to that, recently stated that it was clear in the final months of the war that the Japanese "had lost the ability to defend themselves." American planes "met little, and then virtually no resistance," Dowd recalled. He added, "It is well-known [now] that the Japanese were seeking to make a peace agreement well before Hiroshima." "

 

[elektra]

President Dwight Eisenhower, the Allied commander in Europe during World War II, recalled in 1963, as he did on several other occasions, that he had opposed using the atomic bomb on Japan during a July 1945 meeting with Secretary of War Henry Stimson: "I told him I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon."

Hiroshima: Military Voices of Dissent | Origins

Almost six decades after the fact, the 1945 unleashing of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima continues to be the subject of impassioned debate. Every year the bombing anniversary — which falls on August 6 — occasions heated exchanges between those who question the atomic bombing and those who...

origins.osu.edu

Proven false with Eisenhowers words, in this op, directly from books Eisenhower wrote

 

[elektra]

"Doug Dowd, a Pacific-theater rescue pilot who was slated to take an early part in the invasion of Japan if it had come to that, recently stated that it was clear in the final months of the war that the Japanese "had lost the ability to defend themselves." American planes "met little, and then virtually no resistance," Dowd recalled. He added, "It is well-known [now] that the Japanese were seeking to make a peace agreement well before Hiroshima." "

A rescue pilot heard, more bullshit. Where was this rescue pilot when 900 sailors died after the Indianapolis was sunk by the Japanese? 6 days before the 1st atom bomb is dropped 900 sailors are murdered by the Japanese and you call that defenseless?

 

[elektra]

"Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, the tough and outspoken commander of the U.S. Third Fleet, which participated in the American offensive against the Japanese home islands in the final months of the war, publicly stated in 1946 that "the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment." The Japanese, he noted, had "put out a lot of peace feelers through Russia long before" the bomb was used. "

More fake history proven in this thread

 

[Unkotare]

Proven false with Eisenhowers words, in this op, directly from books Eisenhower wrote

Some people have a real hard time with history that doesn't validate what they want to believe and have taken as certain since childhood.

 

[Unkotare]

More fake history proven in this thread

Direct quote.

 

[elektra]

Some people have a real hard time with history that doesn't validate what they want to believe and have taken as certain since childhood.

Explain this problem you have

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Direct quote.

Still waiting for a link to that letter Mac Carther wrote....... Still waiting for a link to any actual offer by the big 6 before the atom bombs were dropped

 

[elektra]

"Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, the tough and outspoken commander of the U.S. Third Fleet, which participated in the American offensive against the Japanese home islands in the final months of the war, publicly stated in 1946 that "the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment." The Japanese, he noted, had "put out a lot of peace feelers through Russia long before" the bomb was used. "

Halsey was 100% in agreement with dropping the bomb

After the bombs were dropped, upon hearing that the Japanese were about to surrender, Halsey growled, "Have we enough fuel to turn around and hit the bastards once more before they quit".

 

[Unkotare]

Explain this problem you have

I have no problem. History is what it is. Can't be afraid to look at it directly and challenge old narratives that may not turn out to be accurate after all.

 

[Unkotare]

Halsey was 100% in agreement with dropping the bomb
...

Sure doesn't sound like it.

 

[elektra]

Sure doesn't sound like it.

After the bombs were dropped, upon hearing that the Japanese were about to surrender, Halsey growled, "Have we enough fuel to turn around and hit the bastards once more before they quit".

That is a stretch of your imagination

 

[elektra]

Direct quote.

Yet, Halsey wanted to bomb Japan more, why?

 

[Unkotare]

After the bombs were dropped, upon hearing that the Japanese were about to surrender, Halsey growled, "Have we enough fuel to turn around and hit the bastards once more before they quit".

That is a stretch of your imagination

I kindly included a direct quote previously.