The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

[JakeStarkey]

WQ is ignorning numbers, trends, and personalities.

NightFox knows he is going to get creamed, so is playing dumb.

Correll does not want the world to change and is now mindless chattering about BACK THEN because he and those who think like him won't do what must be done to change it now.

 

[hunarcy]

Sounds like flippant Democratic bragging

But the current breakout of Red States/Blue States gives the Democrats a huge advantage. Bush struggled to reach 270 EVs and needed to nearly sweep swing states to make it
Both sides do not start the election with a clean slate. The Dems start with 242 EV while the Republicans only control 192. To win, Democrats only need to get 28 EVs out of the remaining swing state votes
Even the swing states are starting to lean blue.

I doubt if I will ever see another Republican President in my lifetime

So you're planning to pass on before February, 2017?

 

[Correll]

WQ is ignorning numbers, trends, and personalities.

NightFox knows he is going to get creamed, so is playing dumb.

Correll does not want the world to change.

I do not want the world to change for the worse.

Which it is certainly doing.

Or barring that, we need to be prepared for what is to come.

 

[Davros]

WQ is ignorning numbers, trends, and personalities.

NightFox knows he is going to get creamed, so is playing dumb.

Correll does not want the world to change.

I do not want the world to change for the worse.

Which it is certainly doing.

Or barring that, we need to be prepared for what is to come.

Vague generalities but no specifics about what you intend to do ....

There is no question in my mind that you would support a temporary right wing dictatorship to save America such that the republic can be restarted freshly protected from threats due to demographic changes.

 

[rightwinger]

Easy....... Name any blue states you think will go Red in 2016
Name the swing states that Republicans will take in 2016 that they didn't take in 2012

Sorry my friend, I, unlike you don't operate under the illusion that I'm clairvoyant which would be especially silly since we're not even certain who's going to be running. Therefore making such predictions on such a micro scale is foolish in the extreme and is likely to come back and bite you right in the rear end.

Fortunately you seem to take being made fun of with a healthy sense humor so I suspect you'll be no worse for the wear if a Republican wins 2016 and all the right wingers bring back this thread and rub your nose in it.

For the record, I have no idea which party will take the White House in 2016, all that is certain is that modern Presidential history (since the end of WW II) has shown a strong propensity for the White House to change parties after no more than 2 terms (Reagan being the only exception) so history suggests that the Republicans have the odds in their favor. Personally I think it's natural that after 8 years of eating one flavor of partisan bullshit the America people want a change and choose to dine on the other flavor of partisan bullshit for a while. I also think if the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate her Highness the Marquees of Corruption and Scandal it will just improve the Republicans odds but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't take clairvoyance. All it takes is looking at how states have voted over the last six elections. It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure out that California and New York will go blue and that Texas and Alabama will go Red

You are welcome to bookmark this thread and rub my nose in it if a Republican wins. I may just keep bumping the thread till Election Day to remind Republicans that their task is futile

 

[Redfish]

You claim there will be no One Party State.

Yet you offer no criticism of my reasoning other than to call it racialist.

Do you think that Blacks will suddenly stop being a voting bloc for the dems? If so why and when.

Do you think Hispanics will suddenly stop being a voting bloc for the dems? If so why and when.

Because otherwise, One Party State.

(And don't just say the GOP will "adapt". That's a talking point, not an answer.)

One, it is racist, because you are hiding "traditional" behind actually saying white Christian conservative values: you don't have the stones to say the truth. Two, Saying the GOP must adapt is the truth, not a talking point. Yours are the talking points: what one party state, for instance.

just jumping in here. But the GOP has adapted. Have you noticed that the GOP field includes a woman, a black, two hispanics, young people, old people, non-politicians, politicians. But what they have in common is a love of country and respect of the constitution. Unlike the dems who are have candidates that are old, white, and far left.

Like the Black man in the White house?

Obama is not a black man. He is half white/half black. you could just as accurately have said "like the white man in th white house" but that would not fit your agenda would it?

As Obama said when a Black man accused him of not being Black, 'I am just as Black as you when I am trying to get a taxi.'

yes, we understand. obama is a victim.

 

[Davros]

Easy....... Name any blue states you think will go Red in 2016
Name the swing states that Republicans will take in 2016 that they didn't take in 2012

Sorry my friend, I, unlike you don't operate under the illusion that I'm clairvoyant which would be especially silly since we're not even certain who's going to be running. Therefore making such predictions on such a micro scale is foolish in the extreme and is likely to come back and bite you right in the rear end.

Fortunately you seem to take being made fun of with a healthy sense humor so I suspect you'll be no worse for the wear if a Republican wins 2016 and all the right wingers bring back this thread and rub your nose in it.

For the record, I have no idea which party will take the White House in 2016, all that is certain is that modern Presidential history (since the end of WW II) has shown a strong propensity for the White House to change parties after no more than 2 terms (Reagan being the only exception) so history suggests that the Republicans have the odds in their favor. Personally I think it's natural that after 8 years of eating one flavor of partisan bullshit the America people want a change and choose to dine on the other flavor of partisan bullshit for a while. I also think if the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate her Highness the Marquees of Corruption and Scandal it will just improve the Republicans odds but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't take clairvoyance. All it takes is looking at how states have voted over the last six elections. It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure out that California and New York will go blue and that Texas and Alabama will go Red

You are welcome to bookmark this thread and rub my nose in it if a Republican wins. I may just keep bumping the thread till Election Day to remind Republicans that their task is futile

That's a long time.

 

[Redfish]

The crowd that screams about "Pressing 1 for English" knows that language is one of the few bonds that hold America together.

Losing that will reduce our social cohesion.

It is right to be against that.

Like I said....

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Dream on. whats more likely is that the next liberal democrat president has not been born yet. Liberalism has failed, the people know it. Sanders and Clinton are just more of failed liberal policies. Neither of them will ever inhabit the oval office.

The point is that Republican attitudes towards our Hispanic population will prevent their getting the White House for at least a generation

The repudiation of what Marco Rubio was saying about his spanish speaking grandfather says it all about the sincerity of the Republican Party in getting the Hispanic vote

I know that you want to believe that, but its simply not true. Legal hispanics are religious and have very strong family values. They also want their piece of the american dream, not dem socialist welfare and patronizing.

I have already pointed out that Hispanics, like Marco Rubios grandfather, should be natural Republicans

But Republicans chose to pander to the racist element that has flocked to the party. That element hates to hear spanish spoken in public, hates brown skin and despises immigration.

That is why I am not surprised that Republicans responded better to Trump than they did towards Rubio

Do you ever stop lying? Republicans are not against immigration, they are against ILLEGAL immigration, as are most americans including hispanics.

If you want to see racism check out what the dems are saying about Carson, West, Mia Love, Tim Scott, etc.

BTW, you are as full of shit on this topic as you are on every other topic.

 

[rightwinger]

Like I said....

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

Dream on. whats more likely is that the next liberal democrat president has not been born yet. Liberalism has failed, the people know it. Sanders and Clinton are just more of failed liberal policies. Neither of them will ever inhabit the oval office.

The point is that Republican attitudes towards our Hispanic population will prevent their getting the White House for at least a generation

The repudiation of what Marco Rubio was saying about his spanish speaking grandfather says it all about the sincerity of the Republican Party in getting the Hispanic vote

I know that you want to believe that, but its simply not true. Legal hispanics are religious and have very strong family values. They also want their piece of the american dream, not dem socialist welfare and patronizing.

I have already pointed out that Hispanics, like Marco Rubios grandfather, should be natural Republicans

But Republicans chose to pander to the racist element that has flocked to the party. That element hates to hear spanish spoken in public, hates brown skin and despises immigration.

That is why I am not surprised that Republicans responded better to Trump than they did towards Rubio

Do you ever stop lying? Republicans are not against immigration, they are against ILLEGAL immigration, as are most americans including hispanics.

If you want to see racism check out what the dems are saying about Carson, West, Mia Love, Tim Scott, etc.

BTW, you are as full of shit on this topic as you are on every other topic.

Let's be honest for once

If those 11 million Mexican immigrants were legal, Republicans would still be outraged

If you really want to see racism, look how Republicans have only elected eight blacks to higher office in the last 100 years

 

[Redfish]

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

It's remarkable that people actually start up ridiculous threads like this. The insinuation that the GOP has no more hope of having one of their own elected President in my lifetime, considering the Red State / Blue State B$ mentioned, AFTER THE MONUMEWNTAL, RECORD-SETTING HISTORICAL ASS-KICKING they just got last November is absolutely INSANE.

Yeah, I know, I've heard it - 'low voter turn-out'. Liberals cite that as a 'positive', but the low turn-out was of RECORD-SETTING numbers. That tells me, and anyone who looks at it objectively, that it wasn't just low turn-out. It was low turn-out because even Liberal voters in large numbers REJECTED what their 'Representatives' were doing.

Many Democrats I talked to were FURIOUS with how their elected Reps had OPENLY begun refusing to represent them but instead had begin imposing their own agenda / will on them. The proverbial straw that broke the camel's (or Donkey's) back for them was when Pelosi declared the American people had no RIGHT to know what was in massive legislation that was so drastically going to impact their lives until it had been forced into law...and then exempted themselves from it.

It was MORE than that, though. Liberals politicians were avoiding Obama like the plague - no one wanted him to come campaign for / with them. This infuriated the Narcissist And Chief. He could not accept that his own party candidates were shunning him, that he was somehow a detriment...so he made the entire election about HIM and HIS Policies. He declared to America that 'this election is about ME and MY policies'. Democrats may have had a better chance up until then, but when Obama made the election about him and his policies, that spurred Conservatives and even Independents on to vote against them in a sign of 'REJECTION'. Liberals, still loyal to their party, could not vote AGAINST their own party....but they would not come out to vote FOR it, either...so, in a way, was its own way of REJECTING Obama's agenda and policies.

Moronic GOP Establishment politicians WRONGLY interpreted the election results as a 'mandate' for their actions/performance/agenda - they were WAY wrong. The DNC's historic loss had nothing to do with them at all. It was all about Obama and his policies - HE himself made it so. If Liberals take the same approach as these Establishment GOP politicians and think they are unbeatable in the 2016 election...especially when their candidates are a re-tread, old, lying, deceitful, un-trustworthy (60% of Americans believe she is the most un-trustworthy candidate running), self-serving, power-hungry, scandal-plagued dinosaur and an OPENLY admitted Socialist Party Member they will be sadly surprised in 2016.

My prediction is that a GOP President will be elected, but the GOP - if something does not change - will lose either the House or Senate - or BOTH - for the same reason the Democrats were lost the House and the Senate...a rejection of bad performance and LACK of policy (whereas the DNC's/Obama's was BAD policy).

What I posted in post #132

The Realities of the 2016 election are:
1. Republicans have a death grip on the House: Gerrymandering has assured GOP control till at least 2022
2. Democrats will retake the Senate as the Republicans have to defend 24 seats with many seats in Blue States. Dems only have to defend 10 all in Blue States
3. A Democrat will win the White House based on already having 242 Electoral Votes going in

I think that by controlling the Statehouses Republicans will maintain their grip on the House well into the 2030s. That does nothing to negate the control Democrats have over the Electoral College

Unless Republicans find a way to gerrymander the Electoral College process, they will not elect another President in the foreseeable future

Well thats your dream, we will see how it works out. We understand that you are a dem mouthpiece whose purpose in life is to post the latest dem/lib talking points. you are fooling no one.

That is the political reality of 2016

Why not address the points ?

The political reality of 2016 is that americans are fed up with the corruption, partisan bullshit, and greed in the current government. They are fed up with both parties. Thats exactly why Trump, Carson, and Sanders are as popular as they are.

Americans will only take so much shit until they say ENOUGH and kick all of them out. 2016 could be the year that that happens.

So get off your fuckin democrat horse and face reality. He is walking in horseshit and its flying up in your face.

 

[Redfish]

Dream on. whats more likely is that the next liberal democrat president has not been born yet. Liberalism has failed, the people know it. Sanders and Clinton are just more of failed liberal policies. Neither of them will ever inhabit the oval office.

The point is that Republican attitudes towards our Hispanic population will prevent their getting the White House for at least a generation

The repudiation of what Marco Rubio was saying about his spanish speaking grandfather says it all about the sincerity of the Republican Party in getting the Hispanic vote

I know that you want to believe that, but its simply not true. Legal hispanics are religious and have very strong family values. They also want their piece of the american dream, not dem socialist welfare and patronizing.

I have already pointed out that Hispanics, like Marco Rubios grandfather, should be natural Republicans

But Republicans chose to pander to the racist element that has flocked to the party. That element hates to hear spanish spoken in public, hates brown skin and despises immigration.

That is why I am not surprised that Republicans responded better to Trump than they did towards Rubio

Do you ever stop lying? Republicans are not against immigration, they are against ILLEGAL immigration, as are most americans including hispanics.

If you want to see racism check out what the dems are saying about Carson, West, Mia Love, Tim Scott, etc.

BTW, you are as full of shit on this topic as you are on every other topic.

Let's be honest for once

If those 11 million Mexican immigrants were legal, Republicans would still be outraged

If you really want to see racism, look how Republicans have only elected eight blacks to higher office in the last 100 years

wrong on both, but you knew that.

Everyone on this message board knows that you are nothing but a left wing parrot whose job is to post bullshit and talking points.

 

[Redfish]

Easy....... Name any blue states you think will go Red in 2016
Name the swing states that Republicans will take in 2016 that they didn't take in 2012

Sorry my friend, I, unlike you don't operate under the illusion that I'm clairvoyant which would be especially silly since we're not even certain who's going to be running. Therefore making such predictions on such a micro scale is foolish in the extreme and is likely to come back and bite you right in the rear end.

Fortunately you seem to take being made fun of with a healthy sense humor so I suspect you'll be no worse for the wear if a Republican wins 2016 and all the right wingers bring back this thread and rub your nose in it.

For the record, I have no idea which party will take the White House in 2016, all that is certain is that modern Presidential history (since the end of WW II) has shown a strong propensity for the White House to change parties after no more than 2 terms (Reagan being the only exception) so history suggests that the Republicans have the odds in their favor. Personally I think it's natural that after 8 years of eating one flavor of partisan bullshit the America people want a change and choose to dine on the other flavor of partisan bullshit for a while. I also think if the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate her Highness the Marquees of Corruption and Scandal it will just improve the Republicans odds but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't take clairvoyance. All it takes is looking at how states have voted over the last six elections. It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure out that California and New York will go blue and that Texas and Alabama will go Red

You are welcome to bookmark this thread and rub my nose in it if a Republican wins. I may just keep bumping the thread till Election Day to remind Republicans that their task is futile

Reagan won 49 states.

 

[NoNukes]

One, it is racist, because you are hiding "traditional" behind actually saying white Christian conservative values: you don't have the stones to say the truth. Two, Saying the GOP must adapt is the truth, not a talking point. Yours are the talking points: what one party state, for instance.

just jumping in here. But the GOP has adapted. Have you noticed that the GOP field includes a woman, a black, two hispanics, young people, old people, non-politicians, politicians. But what they have in common is a love of country and respect of the constitution. Unlike the dems who are have candidates that are old, white, and far left.

Like the Black man in the White house?

Obama is not a black man. He is half white/half black. you could just as accurately have said "like the white man in th white house" but that would not fit your agenda would it?

As Obama said when a Black man accused him of not being Black, 'I am just as Black as you when I am trying to get a taxi.'

yes, we understand. obama is a victim.

One, it is racist, because you are hiding "traditional" behind actually saying white Christian conservative values: you don't have the stones to say the truth. Two, Saying the GOP must adapt is the truth, not a talking point. Yours are the talking points: what one party state, for instance.

just jumping in here. But the GOP has adapted. Have you noticed that the GOP field includes a woman, a black, two hispanics, young people, old people, non-politicians, politicians. But what they have in common is a love of country and respect of the constitution. Unlike the dems who are have candidates that are old, white, and far left.

Like the Black man in the White house?

Obama is not a black man. He is half white/half black. you could just as accurately have said "like the white man in th white house" but that would not fit your agenda would it?

As Obama said when a Black man accused him of not being Black, 'I am just as Black as you when I am trying to get a taxi.'

yes, we understand. obama is a victim.

You obviously do not understand.

 

[Redfish]

just jumping in here. But the GOP has adapted. Have you noticed that the GOP field includes a woman, a black, two hispanics, young people, old people, non-politicians, politicians. But what they have in common is a love of country and respect of the constitution. Unlike the dems who are have candidates that are old, white, and far left.

Like the Black man in the White house?

Obama is not a black man. He is half white/half black. you could just as accurately have said "like the white man in th white house" but that would not fit your agenda would it?

As Obama said when a Black man accused him of not being Black, 'I am just as Black as you when I am trying to get a taxi.'

yes, we understand. obama is a victim.

just jumping in here. But the GOP has adapted. Have you noticed that the GOP field includes a woman, a black, two hispanics, young people, old people, non-politicians, politicians. But what they have in common is a love of country and respect of the constitution. Unlike the dems who are have candidates that are old, white, and far left.

Like the Black man in the White house?

Obama is not a black man. He is half white/half black. you could just as accurately have said "like the white man in th white house" but that would not fit your agenda would it?

As Obama said when a Black man accused him of not being Black, 'I am just as Black as you when I am trying to get a taxi.'

yes, we understand. obama is a victim.

You obviously do not understand.

Oh I understand quite well. Even though he is president of the USA, Obama is still claiming that he is being discriminated against because he is half black. I get it completely. Its bullshit, but I get it.

 

[rightwinger]

The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

It's remarkable that people actually start up ridiculous threads like this. The insinuation that the GOP has no more hope of having one of their own elected President in my lifetime, considering the Red State / Blue State B$ mentioned, AFTER THE MONUMEWNTAL, RECORD-SETTING HISTORICAL ASS-KICKING they just got last November is absolutely INSANE.

Yeah, I know, I've heard it - 'low voter turn-out'. Liberals cite that as a 'positive', but the low turn-out was of RECORD-SETTING numbers. That tells me, and anyone who looks at it objectively, that it wasn't just low turn-out. It was low turn-out because even Liberal voters in large numbers REJECTED what their 'Representatives' were doing.

Many Democrats I talked to were FURIOUS with how their elected Reps had OPENLY begun refusing to represent them but instead had begin imposing their own agenda / will on them. The proverbial straw that broke the camel's (or Donkey's) back for them was when Pelosi declared the American people had no RIGHT to know what was in massive legislation that was so drastically going to impact their lives until it had been forced into law...and then exempted themselves from it.

It was MORE than that, though. Liberals politicians were avoiding Obama like the plague - no one wanted him to come campaign for / with them. This infuriated the Narcissist And Chief. He could not accept that his own party candidates were shunning him, that he was somehow a detriment...so he made the entire election about HIM and HIS Policies. He declared to America that 'this election is about ME and MY policies'. Democrats may have had a better chance up until then, but when Obama made the election about him and his policies, that spurred Conservatives and even Independents on to vote against them in a sign of 'REJECTION'. Liberals, still loyal to their party, could not vote AGAINST their own party....but they would not come out to vote FOR it, either...so, in a way, was its own way of REJECTING Obama's agenda and policies.

Moronic GOP Establishment politicians WRONGLY interpreted the election results as a 'mandate' for their actions/performance/agenda - they were WAY wrong. The DNC's historic loss had nothing to do with them at all. It was all about Obama and his policies - HE himself made it so. If Liberals take the same approach as these Establishment GOP politicians and think they are unbeatable in the 2016 election...especially when their candidates are a re-tread, old, lying, deceitful, un-trustworthy (60% of Americans believe she is the most un-trustworthy candidate running), self-serving, power-hungry, scandal-plagued dinosaur and an OPENLY admitted Socialist Party Member they will be sadly surprised in 2016.

My prediction is that a GOP President will be elected, but the GOP - if something does not change - will lose either the House or Senate - or BOTH - for the same reason the Democrats were lost the House and the Senate...a rejection of bad performance and LACK of policy (whereas the DNC's/Obama's was BAD policy).

What I posted in post #132

The Realities of the 2016 election are:
1. Republicans have a death grip on the House: Gerrymandering has assured GOP control till at least 2022
2. Democrats will retake the Senate as the Republicans have to defend 24 seats with many seats in Blue States. Dems only have to defend 10 all in Blue States
3. A Democrat will win the White House based on already having 242 Electoral Votes going in

I think that by controlling the Statehouses Republicans will maintain their grip on the House well into the 2030s. That does nothing to negate the control Democrats have over the Electoral College

Unless Republicans find a way to gerrymander the Electoral College process, they will not elect another President in the foreseeable future

Well thats your dream, we will see how it works out. We understand that you are a dem mouthpiece whose purpose in life is to post the latest dem/lib talking points. you are fooling no one.

That is the political reality of 2016

Why not address the points ?

The political reality of 2016 is that americans are fed up with the corruption, partisan bullshit, and greed in the current government. They are fed up with both parties. Thats exactly why Trump, Carson, and Sanders are as popular as they are.

Americans will only take so much shit until they say ENOUGH and kick all of them out. 2016 could be the year that that happens.

So get off your fuckin democrat horse and face reality. He is walking in horseshit and its flying up in your face.

TeaTards

TeaTards are fed up with everything. Very few TeaTards in swing states and it is swing states that elect Presidents

 

[rightwinger]

Easy....... Name any blue states you think will go Red in 2016
Name the swing states that Republicans will take in 2016 that they didn't take in 2012

Sorry my friend, I, unlike you don't operate under the illusion that I'm clairvoyant which would be especially silly since we're not even certain who's going to be running. Therefore making such predictions on such a micro scale is foolish in the extreme and is likely to come back and bite you right in the rear end.

Fortunately you seem to take being made fun of with a healthy sense humor so I suspect you'll be no worse for the wear if a Republican wins 2016 and all the right wingers bring back this thread and rub your nose in it.

For the record, I have no idea which party will take the White House in 2016, all that is certain is that modern Presidential history (since the end of WW II) has shown a strong propensity for the White House to change parties after no more than 2 terms (Reagan being the only exception) so history suggests that the Republicans have the odds in their favor. Personally I think it's natural that after 8 years of eating one flavor of partisan bullshit the America people want a change and choose to dine on the other flavor of partisan bullshit for a while. I also think if the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate her Highness the Marquees of Corruption and Scandal it will just improve the Republicans odds but that's just my opinion.

It doesn't take clairvoyance. All it takes is looking at how states have voted over the last six elections. It doesn't take a crystal ball to figure out that California and New York will go blue and that Texas and Alabama will go Red

You are welcome to bookmark this thread and rub my nose in it if a Republican wins. I may just keep bumping the thread till Election Day to remind Republicans that their task is futile

Reagan won 49 states.

That was thirty years ago. The dynamics have changed significantly and as much as Republican candidates embrace Reagan, they are no Reagan

 

[NightFox]

You are welcome to bookmark this thread and rub my nose in it if a Republican wins. I may just keep bumping the thread till Election Day to remind Republicans that their task is futile

I wouldn't bother, it's not that important to me and it wouldn't be even mildly entertaining... as far as you continually bumping it until Election Day, that is sort of funny so have at it if you wish.

 

[JakeStarkey]

WQ is ignorning numbers, trends, and personalities.

NightFox knows he is going to get creamed, so is playing dumb.

Correll does not want the world to change.

I do not want the world to change for the worse.

Which it is certainly doing.

Or barring that, we need to be prepared for what is to come.

Oh, please, sir. Let me be the first to guess.

What is a One Party dictatorship. What is my prize, Alec? What did I win?

 

[Correll]

WQ is ignorning numbers, trends, and personalities.

NightFox knows he is going to get creamed, so is playing dumb.

Correll does not want the world to change.

I do not want the world to change for the worse.

Which it is certainly doing.

Or barring that, we need to be prepared for what is to come.

Vague generalities but no specifics about what you intend to do ....

There is no question in my mind that you would support a temporary right wing dictatorship to save America such that the republic can be restarted freshly protected from threats due to demographic changes.

Whatever. You're obviously a total partisan hack.

 

[Correll]

Dream on. whats more likely is that the next liberal democrat president has not been born yet. Liberalism has failed, the people know it. Sanders and Clinton are just more of failed liberal policies. Neither of them will ever inhabit the oval office.

The point is that Republican attitudes towards our Hispanic population will prevent their getting the White House for at least a generation

The repudiation of what Marco Rubio was saying about his spanish speaking grandfather says it all about the sincerity of the Republican Party in getting the Hispanic vote

I know that you want to believe that, but its simply not true. Legal hispanics are religious and have very strong family values. They also want their piece of the american dream, not dem socialist welfare and patronizing.

I have already pointed out that Hispanics, like Marco Rubios grandfather, should be natural Republicans

But Republicans chose to pander to the racist element that has flocked to the party. That element hates to hear spanish spoken in public, hates brown skin and despises immigration.

That is why I am not surprised that Republicans responded better to Trump than they did towards Rubio

Do you ever stop lying? Republicans are not against immigration, they are against ILLEGAL immigration, as are most americans including hispanics.

If you want to see racism check out what the dems are saying about Carson, West, Mia Love, Tim Scott, etc.

BTW, you are as full of shit on this topic as you are on every other topic.

Let's be honest for once

If those 11 million Mexican immigrants were legal, Republicans would still be outraged

If you really want to see racism, look how Republicans have only elected eight blacks to higher office in the last 100 years

1. I wish you were right. The GOP platform and party actions has been quite friendly to not only illegal immigrants but legal immigrants. If there was any real push back against legal Third World Immigration I would know it and be happy to discuss it.

2. THe lack of elected black officials has to do with the low numbers of black republicans. YOu wouldn't expect republicans to vote for democrats would you? That slam is dishonest.