The next offensive must focus on decimating the IRGC.

[jacksonlamb]

And that's about all the ayatollahs are able to do, thumb their noses.

Then why are we at war.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Then why are we at war.

Stupid question, to keep them from doing other things like build nuclear weapons and longer range missiles that can reach US cities.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The IRGC will needs to be broken. They are already weakened, many thousands have defected already. Send them to their final reward with Operation 72 Virgins.

How. What is your plan, bro?

 

[toomuchtime_]

How. What is your plan, bro?

It's already happening, so just keep up the economic and military pressure.

AI Overview



The status of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as of May 2026 is a paradox of critical military degradation and expanding domestic dominance. While international intelligence reports and recent military engagements suggest the organization is failing in its traditional defensive and regional capabilities, it has simultaneously tightened its grip on the internal Iranian government. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Indicators of Military and Structural Failure
Evidence from the 2026 conflict suggests the IRGC's conventional military infrastructure has been severely compromised:

• Command and Control: Reports indicate that command and control networks are decimated, with the IRGC spread into isolated pockets with no unified command.
• Personnel Attrition: Intelligence assessments from March 2026 noted a significant number of soldiers, police officers, and IRGC members failing to report for duty, indicating potential cracks in morale.
• Economic Suffocation: The U.S. has frozen IRGC-linked bank accounts across the Gulf states, aimed at "suffocating" the organization's financial base.
• Strategic Setbacks: Despite its nearly 50-year grip on power, analysts suggest the IRGC may be more fragile than it appears, with the "Woman, Life, Freedom" movement and labor groups maintaining latent mobilization potential. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Domestic Expansion and Political Dominance
Despite these military setbacks, the IRGC has transitioned from "operating behind the scenes" to becoming the dominant political force in Tehran:

• Government Sidelining: The IRGC has effectively sidelined the formal government, including President Masoud Pezeshkian, by resisting the restoration of authority to civilian institutions.
• Economic Control: It has expanded its control over major sections of the economy, telecommunications, and sensitive security appointments.
• Leadership Transition: Some assessments suggest the regime may eventually be governed by a hardline IRGC "rump government" in a significantly weakened state. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[jacksonlamb]

Stupid question, to keep them from doing other things like build nuclear weapons and longer range missiles that can reach US cities.

They can't do that right.

It is stupid to think that we can make them not do it permanently without an invasion.

It is stupid to think we are going to invade.

 

[jacksonlamb]

It's already happening, so just keep up the economic and military pressure.

AI Overview



The status of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as of May 2026 is a paradox of critical military degradation and expanding domestic dominance. While international intelligence reports and recent military engagements suggest the organization is failing in its traditional defensive and regional capabilities, it has simultaneously tightened its grip on the internal Iranian government. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Indicators of Military and Structural Failure
Evidence from the 2026 conflict suggests the IRGC's conventional military infrastructure has been severely compromised:

• Command and Control: Reports indicate that command and control networks are decimated, with the IRGC spread into isolated pockets with no unified command.
• Personnel Attrition: Intelligence assessments from March 2026 noted a significant number of soldiers, police officers, and IRGC members failing to report for duty, indicating potential cracks in morale.
• Economic Suffocation: The U.S. has frozen IRGC-linked bank accounts across the Gulf states, aimed at "suffocating" the organization's financial base.
• Strategic Setbacks: Despite its nearly 50-year grip on power, analysts suggest the IRGC may be more fragile than it appears, with the "Woman, Life, Freedom" movement and labor groups maintaining latent mobilization potential. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Domestic Expansion and Political Dominance
Despite these military setbacks, the IRGC has transitioned from "operating behind the scenes" to becoming the dominant political force in Tehran:

• Government Sidelining: The IRGC has effectively sidelined the formal government, including President Masoud Pezeshkian, by resisting the restoration of authority to civilian institutions.
• Economic Control: It has expanded its control over major sections of the economy, telecommunications, and sensitive security appointments.
• Leadership Transition: Some assessments suggest the regime may eventually be governed by a hardline IRGC "rump government" in a significantly weakened state. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Then why is it not working?

Why do they not surrender?

 

[luiza]

I'm not likely to die from any of those things, Lucy Retardo.

There are fates worse than death — being seen as a figure of fun and ridicule .
A Simple Simon as we say .

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's already happening, so just keep up the economic and military pressure.

AI Overview



The status of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as of May 2026 is a paradox of critical military degradation and expanding domestic dominance. While international intelligence reports and recent military engagements suggest the organization is failing in its traditional defensive and regional capabilities, it has simultaneously tightened its grip on the internal Iranian government. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Indicators of Military and Structural Failure
Evidence from the 2026 conflict suggests the IRGC's conventional military infrastructure has been severely compromised:

• Command and Control: Reports indicate that command and control networks are decimated, with the IRGC spread into isolated pockets with no unified command.
• Personnel Attrition: Intelligence assessments from March 2026 noted a significant number of soldiers, police officers, and IRGC members failing to report for duty, indicating potential cracks in morale.
• Economic Suffocation: The U.S. has frozen IRGC-linked bank accounts across the Gulf states, aimed at "suffocating" the organization's financial base.
• Strategic Setbacks: Despite its nearly 50-year grip on power, analysts suggest the IRGC may be more fragile than it appears, with the "Woman, Life, Freedom" movement and labor groups maintaining latent mobilization potential. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Domestic Expansion and Political Dominance
Despite these military setbacks, the IRGC has transitioned from "operating behind the scenes" to becoming the dominant political force in Tehran:

• Government Sidelining: The IRGC has effectively sidelined the formal government, including President Masoud Pezeshkian, by resisting the restoration of authority to civilian institutions.
• Economic Control: It has expanded its control over major sections of the economy, telecommunications, and sensitive security appointments.
• Leadership Transition: Some assessments suggest the regime may eventually be governed by a hardline IRGC "rump government" in a significantly weakened state. [1, 2, 3, 4]

You think a blockade is going to destroy the IRGC? How?

 

[The Duke]

There are fates worse than death — being seen as a figure of fun and ridicule .
A Simple Simon as we say .

Or, you could not GAF about it and be happy!

 

[toomuchtime_]

You think a blockade is going to destroy the IRGC? How?

Along with military pressure. Soldiers who don't get paid don't stick around and already there are widespread desertions and reserve troops refusing to show up when called, and the economic pressure has only just begun to have effect.

There are also reports of IRGC soldiers refusing orders to fire on protesters.

 

[The Duke]

Apparently the regular military are not being paid due to the blockade. As I have said, this is an issue for the CIA who should be recruiting and finding sources. Ultimately, China is set to lose the most if Iran needs to shut down wells.

The one fear may be that Iran attacks gulf states oil locations. It may end up as a war against Iran by the rest of the region and really replace their regime.

Oil prices are designed to sink the GOP, this is why the timing of this war seems really peculiar to me so soon to the midterms.

China intends to squeeze Trump when he fists. They want to humiliate America. If the blockade remains, it will be a game of chicken which could cost Iran their entire economy and leavr China with no oil sources (outside of sanctioned Russian oil).

It is really political will but the timing of this war seems really poorly. We can not let politics dictate decisions but this is what Americas enemies have always exploited.

No. Iran's conventional missile stockpiles and their enriching uranium is what made it need to happen now.
It was cresting a point of no return with just their conventional missiles and drones, with them working on nuke warheads, too.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's already happening, so just keep up the economic and military pressure.

Dipstick thinks economic pressure will get rid of a military dictatorship? Hell we should have just done that in WWII.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Dipstick thinks economic pressure will get rid of a military dictatorship? Hell we should have just done that in WWII.

Given up arguing your case about how sturdy the IRGC is already?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Given up arguing your case about how sturdy the IRGC is already?

Ok Dipstick, when has ecnomid pressure gotten rid of a military dictatorship in history...ever?

 

[Invisibleflash]

The IRGC will needs to be broken. They are already weakened, many thousands have defected already. Send them to their final reward with Operation 72 Virgins.

The IRGC will needs to be broken. They are already weakened, many thousands have defected already. Send them to their final reward with Operation 72 Virgins.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Ok Dipstick, when has ecnomid pressure gotten rid of a military dictatorship in history...ever?

The question was, will economic pressure break the IRGC and you want to change the subject to bringing down a military dictatorship because the evidence is clear the IRGC is already breaking down under economic pressure.

 

[jacksonlamb]

The question was, will economic pressure break the IRGC and you want to change the subject to bringing down a military dictatorship because the evidence is clear the IRGC is already breaking down under economic pressure.

No evidence exists that will suggest economic press will break the IRGC.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No evidence exists that will suggest economic press will break the IRGC.

It is already happening.

AI Overview
Reports as of May 2026 indicate that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is experiencing a significant surge in desertions and defections, driven by internal distrust, economic collapse, and intensifying military pressure. While the IRGC has historically been the regime's most loyal force, recent reports describe absence rates nearing 90% in some units and a breakdown in discipline. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Current State of IRGC Stability
The IRGC’s cohesion is reportedly fracturing due to a widening gap between senior leadership and rank-and-file personnel. [1]

• Desertions: Soldiers are reportedly abandoning their posts en masse due to severe supply shortages, including lack of food, drinking water, and ammunition. Some units have reportedly been issued as few as 10 bullets per soldier during ongoing conflicts.
• Defections: Mid-ranking officers and specialized personnel are increasingly fleeing to Turkey and Azerbaijan to escape internal purges and the fear of being used as "human shields" while commanders remain in secure bunkers.
• Internal Purges: The IRGC’s intelligence branch has intensified internal surveillance, leading to a "climate of paranoia" where officers are detained for minor criticisms or suspected ties to foreign intelligence. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Primary Drivers of Attrition (2026)

[td]Driver [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6][/td][td]Impact on Personnel[/td] [td]Economic Hardship[/td][td]Unpaid salaries and massive purchasing power loss (up to 90%) have left members unable to afford basic necessities.[/td] [td]Supply Shortages[/td][td]Acute lack of medical supplies, clean water, and ammunition at the front lines.[/td] [td]Leadership Rifts[/td][td]Friction with the regular army (Artesh) and resentment over commanders' perceived cowardice.[/td]

Institutional Tensions
A notable "divorce" is reportedly occurring between the IRGC and the Artesh (regular army). [1]

• Medical Neglect: Reports suggest the IRGC has refused to provide medical assistance or transport for wounded Artesh soldiers, hoarding medical supplies for their own units.
• Command Failures: IRGC Aerospace Force commander Majid Mousavi has faced internal criticism for his absence during high-risk operations, further demoralizing personnel.
• Coerced Manpower: To combat desertions, the IRGC has reportedly begun recalling retirees to active duty and recruiting prisoners with promises of amnesty. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[Zincwarrior]

The question was, will economic pressure break the IRGC and you want to change the subject to bringing down a military dictatorship because the evidence is clear the IRGC is already breaking down under economic pressure.

YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. CITE TIMES ECONOMIC PRESSURE HAS GOTTEN RID OF A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP. HOW ABOUT CUBA? NORTH KOREA? HOW ABOUT THE TWENTY YEAR SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN ITSELF?

 

[jacksonlamb]

You need to answer with more than an AI guess, because the IRGC do not seem to show any signs except '**** you' right now.