The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[Toddsterpatriot]

These cities, towns, and villages predate the Ottoman Empire.

Like Jerusalem?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Like Jerusalem?

The Ottoman Empire did what empires always do. They claim that everybody's land is theirs. They lost that claim when they lost the war. The Treaty of Lausanne returned the land to the people.

 

[Hollie]

The Ottoman Empire did what empires always do. They claim that everybody's land is theirs. They lost that claim when they lost the war. The Treaty of Lausanne returned the land to the people.

What land? What people?

As usual, you're circling back to your "Treaty of Lausanne invented the country of Pal'istan" conspiracy theory.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Ottoman Empire did what empires always do. They claim that everybody's land is theirs. They lost that claim when they lost the war. The Treaty of Lausanne returned the land to the people.

Write it 1000 times.

Treaty of Lausanne
Treaty of Lausanne

Which did not return the land to the Arabs who, like the Ottoman Turks, had also invaded the land and taken it from its original people after the Crusaders, who took it from the Arab Muslims, who took it from the Byzantine , who took it after the Romans, who took after the Greek from the indigenous people, the Jews who created a Nation on the land starting 3000 years ago.

After you have written it 1000 times, forget it and look for the truth, something you are so bad at.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Ottoman Empire did what empires always do. They claim that everybody's land is theirs.

Even Jewish land?

 

[P F Tinmore]

What land? What people?

As usual, you're circling back to your "Treaty of Lausanne invented the country of Pal'istan" conspiracy theory.

The Treaty of Lausanne did not create anything. The new states were created by the Allied Powers. The Treaty of Lausanne merely released the territories to their respective new states.

Palestine's northern international border was set by the Sykes-Pecot Agreement in 1916. Palestine's southern international border was determined by Egypt's international border that was defined in 1906.

Palestine and Transjordan were already determined to be two separate states. Article 25 in the Palestine Mandate allowed that to happen. The international border between Palestine and Transjordan was approved by the League of Nations in 1922.

All this was finalized with the Treaty of Lausanne in 1924. The Palestinians became Palestinian nationals and Palestinian citizens by international law in 1924. They received Palestinian citizenship by domestic law in 1925.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Even Jewish land?

Sure, everything.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which did not return the land to the Arabs who, like the Ottoman Turks, had also invaded the land and taken it from its original people...

Who did the Arabs expel from their land?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sure, everything.

So now the Jewish land is Jewish again.

 

[P F Tinmore]

who took it after the Romans, who took after the Greek from the indigenous people, the Jews who created a Nation on the land starting 3000 years ago.

It looks like you have a bitch with the Greeks not the Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So now the Jewish land is Jewish again.

All of the Jews who became Palestinian citizens in 1925 should have gotten their land back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

All of the Jews who became Palestinian citizens in 1925 should have gotten their land back.

Which Jews in Israel didn't get their land back?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which Jews in Israel didn't get their land back?

Since land deeds did not exist in the Ottoman Empire until the middle of the 19th century, it is hard to tell.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Since land deeds did not exist in the Ottoman Empire until the middle of the 19th century, it is hard to tell.

They own it now, so what's the problem?

 

[P F Tinmore]

They own it now, so what's the problem?

Do they? Or do they merely claim it is theirs like all of the other empires?

Link?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Since land deeds did not exist in the Ottoman Empire until the middle of the 19th century, it is hard to tell.

Why would you assume that it is hard to know since land deeds did exist in the Ottoman Empire after 1856 when they started selling land?

Such records do exist but you do like to live in the world where all Arabs 'Owned" land and it was all "stolen" from them by the Jews.

A few rich Arabs bought land after 1856. Most were poor and could not afford one Dunham to their name.

It was all recorded by the Ottomans. The British kept those records. They are still available to this day.

Land Ownership in Palestine, 1880–1948 | survival

lessons.myjli.com

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do they? Or do they merely claim it is theirs like all of the other empires?

Like the Pallies claim it?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why would you assume that it is hard to know since land deeds did exist in the Ottoman Empire after 1856 when they started selling land?

Such records do exist but you do like to live in the world where all Arabs 'Owned" land and it was all "stolen" from them by the Jews.

A few rich Arabs bought land after 1856. Most were poor and could not afford one Dunham to their name.

It was all recorded by the Ottomans. The British kept those records. They are still available to this day.

Land Ownership in Palestine, 1880–1948 | survival

lessons.myjli.com

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is no secret that the Ottoman Empire was screwing its people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Like the Pallies claim it?

Deflection.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Deflection.

The pallies don't claim it?