The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[P F Tinmore]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

Those treaties were not brokered by the UN.

Treaties have to be brokered by the UN?
Are non-UN treaties invalid?

You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

Indeed.

Israel got both while they were kicking Arab ass.

It is inadmissible to acquire territory through the threat or use of force.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

 

[Hollie]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

Those treaties were not brokered by the UN.

Treaties have to be brokered by the UN?
Are non-UN treaties invalid?

You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

Indeed.

Israel got both while they were kicking Arab ass.

It is inadmissible to acquire territory through the threat or use of force.

"Inadmissible"

You cut and pasted that silly slogan from an earlier thread.

 

[Hollie]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

There was no "Pal'istan''. A little common sense would have saved you some embarrassment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is inadmissible to acquire territory through the threat or use of force.

Is it inadmissible to acquire territory by beating Arab ass?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

Those treaties were not brokered by the UN.

Treaties have to be brokered by the UN?
Are non-UN treaties invalid?

You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

Indeed.

Israel got both while they were kicking Arab ass.

It is inadmissible to acquire territory through the threat or use of force.

"Inadmissible"

You cut and pasted that silly slogan from an earlier thread.

Indeed, UN Resolution 242.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

 

[Hollie]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

Those treaties were not brokered by the UN.

Treaties have to be brokered by the UN?
Are non-UN treaties invalid?

You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

The US didn't hold either, how could it give them to Israel?

Indeed.

Israel got both while they were kicking Arab ass.

It is inadmissible to acquire territory through the threat or use of force.

"Inadmissible"

You cut and pasted that silly slogan from an earlier thread.

Indeed, UN Resolution 242.

Indeed. Pass that on to your Islamic terrorist heroes at the next border gee-had.

 

[Hollie]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

Indeed. Israel won convincingly. The Araba-Moslems sufferd a humiliating loss, something they have done repeatedly.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

Right. They didn't win despite kicking Arab ass and being larger after the war than before.

We'll call it a draw.

 

[toastman]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

So treaties have to be brokered by the U.N to be valid ? And how could the U.S have given anything to Israel ?
Just because you disagree with Israel’s borders, it does not mean that they simply do not exist.

when someone makes a claim on this message board, they are asked to back it up with links, which I have done multiple times . You are simply to naive and immature to accept the truth. A country either has borders, or it doesn’t; there is nothing it between, no grey area. In this case, I have provided sufficient evidence to prove that they do ....

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Whenever I ask that question everyone starts dancing.

And once again Tinmore, you proved that you are the kind of ducking and dancing. Not a SINGLE rebuttal to all the proof I provided about Israel’s borders. Just more jibberish. The map I showed you clearly shows Israel’s territory and international borders. Nothing about Palestine . Why is that ? Also, where did the UN state that the Negev is Palestine ?? Where is a current map of Palestine showing the Negev inside its borders ?

 

[toastman]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

RESULT: Israel victory
Palestinian Arab defeat


Once again, another of Tinmore’s lies is shot down by a link. Man, this is just too easy

 

[P F Tinmore]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

Right. They didn't win despite kicking Arab ass and being larger after the war than before.

We'll call it a draw.

 

[P F Tinmore]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Where does it say that Israel won that war?

 

[Hollie]

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Who signed the agreements on the Palestinian side?

Nobody. Palestine was not a party to that war.

Exactly.
Not a country, not a party to the Armistice Agreements between Israel and the Arabs they beat.

Contrary to Israeli bullshit propaganda, Israel did not win that war.

Right. They didn't win despite kicking Arab ass and being larger after the war than before.

We'll call it a draw.

Nice duck.

 

[Hollie]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Where does it say that Israel won that war?

Indeed, Arabs-Moslems losing.

 

[toastman]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Where does it say that Israel won that war?

In the beginning where it says Result: Israeli victory. It also says Palestinian Arab defeat..

let me guess, you’re going to twist the word ‘victory’ and claim it doesn’t mean ‘to win’... right Tinmore ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Where does it say that Israel won that war?

In the beginning where it says Result: Israeli victory. It also says Palestinian Arab defeat..

let me guess, you’re going to twist the word ‘victory’ and claim it doesn’t mean ‘to win’... right Tinmore ?

This article needs additional citations for verification.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So Tinmore, why is there no mention of Palestine in the treaties between Israel and Egypt & Israel and Jordan ?

Now we are getting to a serious question. Those treaties were not brokered by the UN. They were brokered by the US. You know, the same country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel. They also claim that Fatah is the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

The US is not a credible source. Just because they say so does not make it so. No surprise that Palestine was not mentioned.

So treaties have to be brokered by the U.N to be valid ? And how could the U.S have given anything to Israel ?
Just because you disagree with Israel’s borders, it does not mean that they simply do not exist.

when someone makes a claim on this message board, they are asked to back it up with links, which I have done multiple times . You are simply to naive and immature to accept the truth. A country either has borders, or it doesn’t; there is nothing it between, no grey area. In this case, I have provided sufficient evidence to prove that they do ....

In the1949 UN Armistice Agreements, the UN states two times that the Negev is Palestine. How can Israel claim borders on that territory?

Whenever I ask that question everyone starts dancing.

the Arabs BROKE the armistice making it null and void. Pretty simple concept.