The new Trump reflecting pool is a big hit… with algae

[Political-Junkie]

Paint peeling off in sheets?

Source?

 

[Robert W]

What did you expect would happen when Trump's efforts led to a swamp green reflecting pool with paint peeling off in sheets after Trump posted this?

Antifa did more than hurl algae into the pool, they also threw in paint removal chemicals. The FBI knows a lot about this.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Antifa did more than hurl algae into the pool, they also threw in paint removal chemicals. The FBI knows a lot about this.

Thank you for the laugh.

 

[Delldude]

No source ..... LOL

 

[Leo123]

You're not answering. After gas peaked at $5/gallon on average, the price came down. What caused that drop in price?

Oh yeah, almost forgot, Biden drained the SPR of 180 million barrels which caused prices to drop about 13 cents a gallon. At the same time, refinery outages eased and refining capacity recovered and gas supplies increased causing more downward pressure on prices. All Biden did was panic and drain down our oil reserves needlessly. The Market was already correcting on its own.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

If Trump had just done a maintenance repair of the pool…..Nobody would have cared

But he created a big production about how Obama had screwed it up and only the Great Trump could fix it

When it failed miserably, the blowhard was mocked

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Antifa did more than hurl algae into the pool, they also threw in paint removal chemicals. The FBI knows a lot about this.

 

[Senior]

4 problems with manually pouring hydrogen peroxide into green reflecting pool

1. The Sheer Scale Problem​

The Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool holds millions of gallons of water—around 6.5 million by most estimates.

Goodale said estimating the required dose is inherently difficult without knowing the extent of contamination.

“The amount of peroxide needed depends not just on the strength concentration… and the size of the body of water, but also importantly the amount of algae and physical debris in the water. So I cannot give a truly accurate estimate here because the amount of algae is unknown,” he said.


Still, he offered a rough benchmark for scale. “As a rough number—something in the order of 2,000 gallons of 12 percent peroxide would be needed to effectively treat the 6.5 million gallons.”

That scale has led to skepticism over how effective manual dosing can be. Videos show workers manually pouring containers of 12 percent hydrogen peroxide into the pool from the edge, but treating a body of water that size would typically require far larger quantities to significantly reduce algae levels.

“Dosing for a system this large would normally happen in the filtration equipment area. It would definitely not be standard protocol to manually treat a body of water this large,” Goodale said. “Using 1-gallon jugs certainly looks like a half-measure approach to such an immense body of water,” Goodale said.

Experts say dosing in open systems must be carefully calibrated to concentration rather than volume—something that becomes increasingly complex at scale.

2. Cost vs. a Short-Term Fix​

Hydrogen peroxide is widely used as an algicide, but it is not a permanent solution.

“The hydrogen peroxide only works in the very short term,” Lowe said.

Because it breaks down rapidly into oxygen and water, it does not remain in the system long enough to prevent future growth.

That raises questions about cost-effectiveness. Treating a pool of this size at sufficient concentrations—and repeating that process as algae returns—could potentially run into significant expense, particularly when compared with longer-term fixes focused on nutrient control and circulation.

“Every bit of peroxide will help,” Goodale said, “but [whether it is enough] remains to be seen.”

3. A Design Trade-Off: Still Water vs. Circulation​

At the heart of the issue is a long-standing tension in the reflecting pool’s design.

Algae thrives in warm, slow-moving water—conditions that are effectively required for the mirror-like surface the landmark is known for.

While increased circulation or aeration can help reduce algal growth, it can also disrupt reflections.


Experts say managing the pool therefore becomes a balancing act between aesthetics and water quality—one that has challenged multiple renovation efforts over decades.

The recent overhaul, which included resurfacing and changes to the basin, may also have altered how heat and nutrients behave in the system, potentially accelerating bloom conditions.

Goodale said recent weather and design changes may also be contributing factors.

“This is definitely a reactionary approach to trying to prevent the algae from getting worse—which it will quickly with warm weather, lots of rain, and the new darker interior surface absorbing more heat from the sun,” he said.

4. Wildlife and the Wider Environment​

The reflecting pool is not an isolated system. Birds, debris and runoff all interact with the water daily. While the chemicals being added to the water will remove the algae in the pool, because of the ratio used it will not pose a risk to wildlife or humans nearby.

Goodale said dilution plays a key role in limiting risk. “The peroxide itself is being diffused into such a large body of water that the concentrations should not be harmful,” he said. “Hydrogen peroxide is a good choice here, leaving only water and oxygen, neither of which should be harmful to local wildlife.”


Though the wildlife does play a part in continued algae growth. Lowe noted that even if the pool were sterilized, algae would quickly return.

“Algae will enter through a variety of routes such as being washed in, or come in attached to birds’ legs,” he said.

There are also ecological trade-offs to repeated chemical control. While hydrogen peroxide is generally considered less harmful than chlorine and breaks down into non-toxic components, maintaining the pool through continuous dosing could limit what plants and other matter can survive in the water.

“The hydrogen peroxide should have minimal impact on the wider environment, but his will essentially mean that from the standpoint of nature the pool will be an ecological desert with nothing being able to live in the water,” Lowe said.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Oh yeah, almost forgot, Biden drained the SPR of 180 million barrels which caused prices to drop about 13 cents a gallon. At the same time, refinery outages eased and refining capacity recovered and gas supplies increased causing more downward pressure on prices. All Biden did was panic and drain down our oil reserves needlessly. The Market was already correcting on its own.

In reality, following the release of 180 million gallons from the SPR which concluded in October/2022, the average price of gas dropped from it's high of $5.02 in June/2022, to $3.10 in December/2022.

 

[Couchpotato]

In reality, following the release of 180 million gallons from the SPR which concluded in October/2022, the average price of gas dropped from it's high of $5.02 in June/2022, to $3.10 in December/2022.

You don’t actually believe that injecting 15 days worth of us oil production dropped the price of gas 2 dollars a gallon do you?

 

[SweetTea]

Expensive tax cuts for the wealthy when the country has $47 trillion in debt isn’t rational but conservatives have been indoctrinated since Reagan to believe it’ll “trickle down”.

By wealthy you are referring to many small business owners. We already have a progressive tax system so they already pay more for income above each bracket. Why is it a bad thing they they pay less, but still a higher percentage, than others that earn less? The only indoctrination is from the left that tells their minions that these folks will continue to invest and hire the "poor" folks when their income is decreased. What about the wealthy folks who have lawn service? Would they perhaps decide the cut the $300-$400/month they pay to have a "poor" person to landscape their yards? What happens to the landscapers? At some point, the extra money the wealthy pay in taxes must be cut from somewhere. The vast majority of the wealthy, as defined by the left, don't have a virtually endless supply of disposable income. I remember when I first graduated from college and was making very little. If someone had told me I would be making what I make now, I would have told them I would be retired and perhaps eyeing a third home in Monaco. It is all about perspective.

Democrats tend to believe that extra tax money will trickle down to poor people but only after it is laundered through the federal government first. Pretty naive for sure.

A flat tax for those making over a certain minimum makes the most sense in terms of fairness, but Democrats don't want fairness, they want someone else to pick up their tab.

 

[Marener]

By wealthy you are referring to many small business owners. We already have a progressive tax system so they already pay more for income above each bracket. Why is it a bad thing they they pay less, but still a higher percentage, than others that earn less? The only indoctrination is from the left that tells their minions that these folks will continue to invest and hire the "poor" folks when their income is decreased. What about the wealthy folks who have lawn service? Would they perhaps decide the cut the $300-$400/month they pay to have a "poor" person to landscape their yards? What happens to the landscapers? At some point, the extra money the wealthy pay in taxes must be cut from somewhere. The vast majority of the wealthy, as defined by the left, don't have a virtually endless supply of disposable income. I remember when I first graduated from college and was making very little. If someone had told me I would be making what I make now, I would have told them I would be retired and perhaps eyeing a third home in Monaco. It is all about perspective.

Democrats tend to believe that extra tax money will trickle down to poor people but only after it is laundered through the federal government first. Pretty naive for sure.

A flat tax for those making over a certain minimum makes the most sense in terms of fairness, but Democrats don't want fairness, they want someone else to pick up their tab.

Yes, many wealthy people are small business owners.

If you know anything about business, a marginal tax rate does not really have any determining factor on whether you want to expand your business, at least not at the rates we are talking about. If you can invest in your business to expand revenues, and therefore profit, you're going to do it because it will provide more income in your pocket.

We've been attempting trickle down economics for 50 years and the country's growth has gotten smaller, wealth inequality has gotten worse, social mobility is declining, and the deficit exploded.

You're demonstrating motivated reasoning. You want to believe it'll eventually work because you only really care about yourself.

 

[SweetTea]

If you know anything about business, a marginal tax rate does not really have any determining factor on whether you want to expand your business, at least not at the rates we are talking about. If you can invest in your business to expand revenues, and therefore profit, you're going to do it because it will provide more income in your pocket.

Obviously you don't own a small business. If income decreases, cuts have to be made. Often times these cuts come from payroll, as it is often the largest expense.

We've been attempting trickle down economics for 50 years and the country's growth has gotten smaller, wealth inequality has gotten worse, social mobility is declining, and the deficit exploded.

That’s an oversimplification. The last 50 years weren’t one long “trickle-down” experiment, they included tax hikes, tax cuts, wars, recessions, globalization, tech disruption, massive spending, and pandemic stimulus. Blaming all growth, inequality, mobility, government spending and deficits on trickle down ignores the obvious complexity of our system.

You're demonstrating motivated reasoning. You want to believe it'll eventually work because you only really care about yourself.

Those wanting to take more money from those that have earned it are thinking about who exactly? Those believing they shouldn't have to pay back to their student loans are thinking about who exactly?

 

[rightwinger]

The only indoctrination is from the left that tells their minions that these folks will continue to invest and hire the "poor" folks when their income is decreased.

Another myth from the Supply Side folks

You don’t invest and hire more people because you have more money. You invest because the market has grown and there is more product that can be sold.

If you sell 10,000 widgets a year, you don’t produce more widgets because you have more money to spend.
Your produce more because there is now a market to buy 15,000 widgets

 

[SweetTea]

Another myth from the Supply Side folks

You don’t invest and hire more people because you have more money. You invest because the market has grown and there is more product that can be sold.

If you sell 10,000 widgets a year, you don’t produce more widgets because you have more money to spend.
Your produce more because there is now a market to buy 15,000 widgets

If taxes, interest rates, labor costs, or regulations make expansion less attractive, a business may not invest even if demand exists. Businesses don’t hire just because they have extra money, but having more after tax capital can make it easier and more worthwhile to meet growing demand.

 

[Jarod the Original]

How much did Trump spend? How much did Trump brag?

 

[Marener]

Obviously you don't own a small business. If income decreases, cuts have to be made. Often times these cuts come from payroll, as it is often the largest expense.

There's many ways to address decrease in income, although we don't know if you're talking about gross income or net income. I don't think you own a small business. The people on your payroll are the people that generate your income.

That’s an oversimplification. The last 50 years weren’t one long “trickle-down” experiment, they included tax hikes, tax cuts, wars, recessions, globalization, tech disruption, massive spending, and pandemic stimulus. Blaming all growth, inequality, mobility, government spending and deficits on trickle down ignores the obvious complexity of our system.

Taxes have been cut pretty consistently, and although there have been occasional blips up in tax rate, the overall trend is downward.

Tax cuts have consistently failed to produce the results promised.

Those wanting to take more money from those that have earned it are thinking about who exactly? Those believing they shouldn't have to pay back to their student loans are thinking about who exactly?

Future generations whose lives are likely to be dramatically impacted by the results of the policies you prefer.

 

[SweetTea]

There's many ways to address decrease in income, although we don't know if you're talking about gross income or net income. I don't think you own a small business. The people on your payroll are the people that generate your income.

I don't currently own a small business, but have in the past. When revenues decreased, I was forced to cut hours of employees and fill in for them myself. That is how small business works.

Tax cuts have consistently failed to produce the results promised.

Tax hikes have consistently resulted in more waste, more fraud and an insatiable appetite for out of control spending. Funneling more money though the federal government is not prudent.

Future generations whose lives are likely to be dramatically impacted by the results of the policies you prefer.

Asking people to take responsibility for themselves instead of asking for handouts is not self-serving. It is attempting to teach future generations that their actions(taking student loans they cannot pay, for example) have consequences and daddy(government) won't always be there to bail them out.

 

[Marener]

I don't currently own a small business, but have in the past. When revenues decreased, I was forced to cut hours of employees and fill in for them myself. That is how small business works.

On an extremely limited basis, this may be true, however you can't cut that many jobs because the amount of work you can do is finite. But this doesn't really have much to do with tax rates. Tax rates don't affect the income to a business. They only affect your take home pay.

Tax hikes have consistently resulted in more waste, more fraud and an insatiable appetite for out of control spending. Funneling more money though the federal government is not prudent.

Sure, buddy. That's a fine opinion you have there, but it doesn't have any real rationale or data to support it.

Asking people to take responsibility for themselves instead of asking for handouts is not self-serving. It is attempting to teach future generations that their actions(taking student loans they cannot pay, for example) have consequences and daddy(government) won't always be there to bail them out.

******* hilarious considering you're asking future generations to deal with the consequences of your irresponsible actions.

 

[rightwinger]

If taxes, interest rates, labor costs, or regulations make expansion less attractive, a business may not invest even if demand exists. Businesses don’t hire just because they have extra money, but having more after tax capital can make it easier and more worthwhile to meet growing demand.

If the market is there, they will find a way to fill it regardless of taxes, interest, labor costs and regulations

Market = Demand

If a business has extra money, they just keep it.
They don’t cut prices, pay higher wages or hire more people