The Myth That Refuses To Die

[Unkotare]

if teachers don't like the pay then why do they go to school to get jobs as teachers ??

Because they wanted to teach. (You probably could have gotten that one by yourself)

 

[pismoe]

Well they want to teach let them teach for whatever the rate of pay is !! The solution is just so obvious Unkatore !! And I'd think that teachers would be smart enough to figger that out for themselves .

 

[Unkotare]

Well they want to teach let them teach for whatever the rate of pay is !! ... .

Yeah, they do. No need for exclamation marks, genius.

 

[pismoe]

aww , they don't wanna teach , they just want to disrupt and cry for MORE taxpater dollars Unkatore .

 

[Unkotare]

aww , they don't wanna teach , they just want to disrupt and cry for MORE taxpater dollars Unkatore .

No, most of them want to teach.

 

[pismoe]

plus they want to be special and esteemed as educators . Yeah , educators with special knowledge and skills while they / some mess with little kids minds .

 

[pismoe]

so more mindless assertions and proclamations / opinions ehh Unkatore as you say Most of them . Let'em teach for the going rates of pay plus get rid of their unions .

 

[Unkotare]

so more mindless assertions and proclamations / opinions ehh ...

Nope, just more obvious truth. Sorry if it burns your eyes to read it.

 

[pismoe]

makes me smile as I read yer words Unkatore , makes me smile !!

 

[pismoe]

MOST of them want to teach , well let them teach for the regular rate of pay !!

 

[Flanders]

Tax dollars funding a religion goes right to the heart of the First Amendment. Imagine the priesthood of a major religion with access to compulsory tax dollar donations. They would do the same things teachers’ unions are doing.

Obviously, Congress and the federal courts refuse to stop tax dollars from being used to impose the morality of one group or another on the country. If ever there is a constitutional convention an addition to the First Amendment should prohibit the public purse from being used for anything except clearly defined necessary government.

Liberal states like California abuse the income tax which pays for all of Socialism’s garbage. Note that teachers are paid with income tax dollars; so teachers’ unions not only abuse their members they abuse every productive American that pays a tax on their income. Also note that America’s decline began in 1913 with the XVI Amendment.

Teachers Pay Price for Leaving Union
By Mary C. Tillotson | Watchdog.org

Teachers pay price for leaving union Watchdog.org

 

[Unkotare]

MOST of them want to teach , well let them teach for the regular rate of pay !!

Let them teach for whatever they can negotiate as the value of their skills, you mean.

 

[Samson]

Teachers spend four or five years in college learning to be a teacher and then almost half quit teaching in the first five years they teach.

Yes, because it takes only 5 years for teacher salaries to begin to approach their maximum

That is correct because when one becomes a teacher they have forfeited their ability to earn a lot more in the private sector. They have sacrificed their earning potential big time.

They have not forfeited anything unless they continue teaching after 5 years.

They system is designed to accommodate teachers for about 5 years, not 20 years. It goes well beyond salary, which is the most tangible employment benefit, but also extends to very poor health insurance benefits (there is almost no employer contribution), and retirement benefits (there is no 401K "matching").

Regardless, as government jobs are concerned, teachers do pretty well: Average Teaching Salary with Average Cop, Average Firefighter, or the average 1st Lt right out of school.

 

[haissem123]

you people have no problem giving billions to anybody that corners the so called free market ie bloomberg goldmen sacs etc.. but let some one who teaches your kids, and actually spends much more time raising them then we do, make a decent or middle class living and you cry foul? I just don't get your logic. you must have had some worthless teachers to learn this. Or was it your parents? yep I blame your parents cause the teachers made too much to be bad. just like bloomberg. he's a good guy too.

 

[haissem123]

you people don't see that your worth is being judged and you give away the cow to a few that had some "amazing ideas or song or show". you better stop worshipping idols and start judging from the top down. it's amazing how little you people value honest work and worship farts in the wind

 

[Samson]

if teachers don't like the pay then why do they go to school to get jobs as teachers ??

Because they wanted to teach. (You probably could have gotten that one by yourself)

One wonders WHY they ever thought they wanted to teach?

What glamorized the job enough for anyone to invest in 4-5 years of higher education to do this?

 

[haissem123]

judge not less ye be judged. what are you worth? as much as you can get? and your gang tries to take as much as it can get. so does the teachers gang. what's the problem? you are forced to pay for insurance? but you can shop around? oh well, sour grapes. go spend some time with today's crazy self centered youth and see how much you want to be paid. no i'm not a teacher as you can see by the spelling and not in union. so save those two for some one else. we should all be judging each other much more equally and honestly. i don't think some one selling me bad stock or bonds on the free market should make millions as millions lose their homes because of their swindles. that's a dishonest and unwary living off other's misery. but do you hear me crying?

 

[Unkotare]

if teachers don't like the pay then why do they go to school to get jobs as teachers ??

Because they wanted to teach. (You probably could have gotten that one by yourself)

One wonders WHY they ever thought they wanted to teach?

Why do some people want to be doctors?

 

[Unkotare]

judge not less ye be judged. what are you worth? as much as you can get? and your gang tries to take as much as it can get. so does the teachers gang. what's the problem? you are forced to pay for insurance? but you can shop around? oh well, sour grapes. go spend some time with today's crazy self centered youth and see how much you want to be paid. no i'm not a teacher as you can see by the spelling and not in union. so save those two for some one else. we should all be judging each other much more equally and honestly. i don't think some one selling me bad stock or bonds on the free market should make millions as millions lose their homes because of their swindles. that's a dishonest and unwary living off other's misery. but do you hear me crying?

Was there a point in there?

 

[haissem123]

you often miss the point my hairycarey friend. find the point of the scissor and get a hair cut you damned hippy. lol. only kiddn. I can't spell out all my points to you. i'm a riddle wrapped in an enimma shoved up your arse and spewed across the intertoilet