The mountain of evidence gets a little higher.

[berg80]

one other thing it is correct and it was a fine for taking money from charity ... Hillary was never charged with anything ...
The Uranium One Deal Was Not Clinton's to Veto or Approve Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating proposed foreign acquisitions for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can't veto a transaction; only the president can.


All nine federal agencies were required to approve the Uranium One transaction before it could go forward. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton "never intervened" in committee matters. Clinton herself has said she wasn't personally involved.


There Is No Evidence That Uranium Went to Russia


That a change of company ownership occurred doesn't mean that 10 to 20 percent of America's uranium literally went to Russia. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ (Rosatom's mining subsidiary) is licensed to export uranium from the U.S. to other countries.


Some exports did occur, however.


A 2015 letter from NRC official Mark Satorius to a member of Congress revealed that an unspecified amount of yellowcake (semi-processed) uranium was shipped from a Uranium One facility in Wyoming to Canada between 2012 and 2014 for conversion (additional processing to prepare it for enrichment). A portion of that uranium was subsequently shipped to enrichment plants in Europe.


The transfers to Canada were legal despite Uranium One's not holding an export license because the NRC granted such a license to the company that transported it. The transfers to Europe were legal because they were approved by another agency, the U.S. Dept. of Energy. Satorius stressed that the transfers were subject to NRC oversight and all applicable safety and national security regulations:




Additionally, a small amount of that exported uranium was, in fact, sold to other countries. According to a 2 November 2017 article in The Hill, Uranium One officials acknowledged that approximately 25 percent of the yellowcake exported for conversion was subsequently sold via "book transfer" to customers in Western Europe and Asia (yellowcake being a fungible commodity, that doesn't necessarily translate to a physical transfer of the product, however).


To date, there is no evidence that any of this uranium made its way to Russia. An NRC spokesman cited by FactCheck.org in October 2017 reaffirmed Satorius's assurances that "the U.S. government has not authorized any country to re-transfer U.S. uranium to Russia." NRC officials also say they're unaware of any Uranium One exports from the U.S. to foreign countries since 2014.


The Timing of Most of the Clinton Foundation Donations Does Not Match Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion's share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company's Canadian founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.


Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company's chairman:




In addition to the Clinton Foundation donations, the New York Times also cited a $500,000 speaking fee paid to former president Bill Clinton by a Russian investment bank in June 2010, before the Uranium One deal was approved:




The timing of Telfer’s Clinton Foundation donations and Bill Clinton's Renaissance Capital speaking fee might be questionable if there was reason to believe that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the approval of the deal with Russia, but all the evidence points to the contrary — that Clinton did not play a pivotal role, and, in fact, may not have played any role at all. Moreover, neither Clinton nor her department possessed sole power of approval over said transaction.


Foundation Admits to Disclosure Mistakes One fault investigations into the Clinton Foundation's practices did find was that not all of the donations were properly disclosed — specifically, those of Uranium One Chairman Ian Telfer between 2009 and 2012. The foundation admitted this shortcoming and pledged to correct it, but as the Guardian pointed out in its May 2015 discussion of Clinton Cash, the fact that it happened is reason enough to sound alarm bells:




An enormous volume of interest and speculation surrounds the workings of the Clinton Foundation, which is to be expected. Given the enormous sums of money it controls and the fact that it is run by a former U.S. president who is married to a former U.S. secretary of state and presidential candidate, the foundation deserves all the scrutiny it gets, and more.


At the same time, for the sake of accuracy it's crucial to differentiate between partisan accusations and what we actually know about it — however little that may be.


Update


On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval — information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony "indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow," although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

those are the fact not your made-up Breitbart bullshit stories

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I very much appreciate the rigor with which you approach topics. I take the same approach, backing up my assertions with factual material. It drives the rubes crazy.

 

[billyerock123]

Humans control access to the secure voting machines.

End of story.

You are right it’s a story all right … nobody has access To any voting machines …they are kept away from the public …they are checked by the people who made them … just before the starting of an election … it total bull shit you are trying to puysh here … they aren’t connect to anything no web access noting …just a machine that reads ballots and put the counts in the proper person’s count… that’s what don’t seem to get … stop you pushing if Elon Musks lies he like trump is a known liar …

 

[berg80]

it happened on her watch, so it's her responsibility

OMG. You're impervious to facts.

 

[billyerock123]

Have you heard Trumps latest lie … Trump has said at the January 6 insurrection??? he said he had more people then Martin Luther kings speech at the Washington mall … these Maga fools believe it …

 

[Faun]

That's funny right there. I'll put it in the same file that all the dems were leaving the country when Trump won in 2016.

Saying you'll do something and not doing it is not in the same ballpark as making a bet and not honoring it when you lose. Unlike the latter, there's no moral obligation to change your mind.

 

[Faun]

it happened on her watch, so it's her responsibility, you can post all the propaganda lies you have but the truth is the truth, Hillary Clinton is a traitor who should be in prison.

She had nothing to do with it.

 

[Delldude]

You are right it’s a story all right … nobody has access To any voting machines …they are kept away from the public …they are checked by the people who made them … just before the starting of an election … it total bull shit you are trying to puysh here … they aren’t connect to anything no web access noting …just a machine that reads ballots and put the counts in the proper person’s count… that’s what don’t seem to get … stop you pushing if Elon Musks lies he like trump is a known liar …

The people who made them do not stand guard over their machines, they ops check them, certify them and turn them over to whoever the officials are in that locale.
In locals where one party dominates, they usually have access and/or control over these machines. So absolutely no chance whatsoever no hanky panky would come into play.

 

[Delldude]

Saying you'll do something and not doing it is not in the same ballpark as making a bet and not honoring it when you lose. Unlike the latter, there's no moral obligation to change your mind.

Your pals are already lining up again.....'just in case'.

 

[Redfish]

Hillary has never stolen any classified documents... the document, in question by Comey 13 was not marked classified ... in the document type, it had a @ sign... which meant they might be classified or confidential ... they were documents stating lunchtimes with her and heads of state where they were eating and what time ...they were supposed to be stamped as confidential... they weren't marked ... finally we aren't talking about Cheisea's parentage or al gore book or al sharps financial records...so stop the what about shit, shiny objects, as we call it... we are speaking about Trump and his alleged lies ...can ya stay on topic ???

sure, when pigs fly. Hillary had illegally held classified documents on her personal server then destroyed 30,000 emails that had been subpoenaed by congress. She is a criminal who escaped prison due only to Trump's compassion. He could have easily prosecuted her but did not.

 

[Redfish]

The people who made them do not stand guard over their machines, they ops check them, certify them and turn them over to whoever the officials are in that locale.
In locals where one party dominates, they usually have access and/or control over these machines. So absolutely no chance whatsoever no hanky panky would come into play.

are you really so naive that you think an electronic voting machine cannot be hacked?

 

[Redfish]

OMG. You're impervious to facts.

wrong, I deal in facts whether they are pleasant or unpleasant, you however are a puppet of your left wing masters. and I mean MASTERS because they own you and control your every thought and word.

 

[Delldude]

are you really so naive that you think an electronic voting machine cannot be hacked?

You missed the embedded sarcasm of the last sentence.

 

[Redfish]

You missed the embedded sarcasm of the last sentence.

correct, my error

 

[0311]

Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters Declines To Testify As Former Mesa County Clerk Defense Concludes Case.

Tina Peters declines to testify as the former Mesa County clerk’s defense concludes case

Former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters declined to testify in her own defense Friday before defense attorneys concluded their case after eight days of testimony from prosecution and defense witnesses. In 2022, a Mesa County grand jury brought charges against Peters, a Republican...

www.rawstory.com

 

[billyerock123]

sure, when pigs fly. Hillary had illegally held classified documents on her personal server then destroyed 30,000 emails that had been subpoenaed by congress. She is a criminal who escaped prison due only to Trump's compassion. He could have easily prosecuted her but did not.

I'm going to educate you ... Trump is a liar ... the better you learn that the better off you will be ..right now you are ignorant and if you keep listening to trump you will stay ignorant ...

this is for the smart people out there ...so they know what a liar Trump is ... Hillary had an unauthorized server meaning the employees of that company weren't vetted to be used as a server for the government because they weren't vetted ... the law at that time said if you had classified documents on an unauthorized server and it got hack you are responsible for it ... and you can be convicted of a crime if you are hack... storing your information on an unauthorized server is not illegal ... at that time ...when she started using them you didn't need to have an authorized server ... they wanted you to use them but it wasn't mandatory at the time she did nothing Illegal ...

Again this was a lie coming from Trump that she destroyed 30,000 emails ... it never happened... here's what happened to Hillary's Emails... if you did a little research you would know this ... it's all documented ... Hillary was looked at by the State Department and her lawyers ... this procedure is done by all people who leave the government ... she turned into the state department who handles this information... all of her cell phones and all of her computers... they, in turn, go through every email on those hard drives and phones to make sure they are government property or not... if they are not they give them back to Hillary... if there is classified information on them then it is their job to destroy those hard drives and phones ... it was the government that destroyed her hard drives, not Hillary... that too is documented by Comey and the state department ... trump became aware and lied to make you think she destroyed 30,000 classified emails her self ... he out right lied to you all and ignorant people like you stinkfish bought it... once again you have shown us your inability to do actual research into things you know nothing about ... I guess Pigs fly ...

finally, when Hillary was dragged into the house to explain what she did with the 30,000 emails she told them they were all destroyed by the State Department... Trey Gowdy didn't believe her... he felt she was lying ...so he filed for a search warrant on her current hard drive and her so-called 30,000 emails search was on ...what they had discovered was 13 emails that they considered they should have a piece of classified information stamped on them ...they didn't have any stamp on them ... that's why Comey did nothing there was no crime just carelessness on her part he said to the people and dismissed the case on her ... so your rant here is just what it is stinkfish a guy who has no idea what the facts are ... Im sure you will come up with so conspiracy theorist with your bogus facts ...that basically you are lied to feed your insanity ...

 

[billyerock123]

are you really so naive that you think an electronic voting machine cannot be hacked?

any machine can be hacked ...you would be wrong to say they can't ... it's how they protect the machine that is the question ...the voting machines we use have to be kept in a locked secure room until needed when they are ready for use the mfg comes out installed the names of the candidates who are running for office software ... then they are checked for errors make sure that every document being scanned gets a picture of the ballot ... all ballots that are scanned even forged ballots or a ballot that comes through a second-time it too is photographed for reason why this ballot didn't get counted ... finally all the safety features on our voting machine are stellar ... they can't be hacked from your phone or a internet line ... Why ??? they aren't hooked up to any phone line or any internet server ... so are you that naive to think ones our voting machine's are out and are read to count ... votes can be hacked once they are in operation you can't do anything to it to steal voted stinkfish

 

[Redfish]

any machine can be hacked ...you would be wrong to say they can't ... it's how they protect the machine that is the question ...the voting machines we use have to be kept in a locked secure room until needed when they are ready for use the mfg comes out installed the names of the candidates who are running for office software ... then they are checked for errors make sure that every document being scanned gets a picture of the ballot ... all ballots that are scanned even forged ballots or a ballot that comes through a second-time it too is photographed for reason why this ballot didn't get counted ... finally all the safety features on our voting machine are stellar ... they can't be hacked from your phone or a internet line ... Why ??? they aren't hooked up to any phone line or any internet server ... so are you that naive to think ones our voting machine's are out and are read to count ... votes can be hacked once they are in operation you can't do anything to it to steal voted stinkfish

ok, Mr expert. now explain how a candidate's vote total can go down during the night if not by hacking or some other kind of cheating.

 

[billyerock123]

ok, Mr expert. now explain how a candidate's vote total can go down during the night if not by hacking or some other kind of cheating.

Are you really this stupid??? if a machine goes down that’s because it malfunction… there are no access ports to a voting machine for the internet … usb ports or any kind of access to it you moron … you sure love to come up with these stupid idea … as a EET I know how these machines work … I know they can’t be hacked … no voting machine to date has been hack … do they break down?? They are a electronic machine. yes they break down and morons like you come up with these stupidest ideas when the break down… now from my understand each time a vote is read a photo is taken and stored to a hard drive … so they can recover what has been recorded … by rebooting it … on your computer when it freeze up do you lose everything on you computer … no you don’t … same with a voting machine … all the are is a computer that counts votes … so stop you nonsense … a voting machine can’t be hacked …

 

[Redfish]

Are you really this stupid??? if a machine goes down that’s because it malfunction… there are no access ports to a voting machine for the internet … usb ports or any kind of access to it you moron … you sure love to come up with these stupid idea … as a EET I know how these machines work … I know they can’t be hacked … no voting machine to date has been hack … do they break down?? They are a electronic machine. yes they break down and morons like you come up with these stupidest ideas when the break down… now from my understand each time a vote is read a photo is taken and stored to a hard drive … so they can recover what has been recorded … by rebooting it … on your computer when it freeze up do you lose everything on you computer … no you don’t … same with a voting machine … all the are is a computer that counts votes … so stop you nonsense … a voting machine can’t be hacked …

The Chinese say you are wrong. they say they can hack all voting machines just as they hack into our secure military computer banks and the records of any major corporation. kids in 3rd world countries have hacked into banka and corporations. Are you really that ignorant?

In several areas of Philly, Trump's vote totals went down between 11pm and 3am. How is that possible if no one hacked the count or manipulated the results. WE are entitled to the truth, why do you libs resist that so much?

 

[berg80]

Prosecutors alleged that Peters stole a county employee’s security badge to help a man associated with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell gain access to the county’s voter systems to assist Lindell’s false conspiracies about the validity of the 2020 election results.

In closing trial arguments, prosecutor Janet Drake argued that Peters allowed a man posing as a county employee to take copies of the election system’s hard drive before and after a software upgrade in May 2021.

Drake argued that Peters was “fixated” on a desire to be a “hero” and to impress Lindell, one of the most notable election-denying conspiracy theorists.
https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...-peters-convicted-election-interference-case/

This is what happens when an offshoot of the Big Lie is forced to deal with the reality of a court proceeding. Evidence is presented. Cold, hard, dispassionate evidence. Not bombast, not lies being passed off as truth, not conspiracy theories. Those things get rejected. That's why trump was unsuccessful in pursuing the Big Lie after the election. Before he tried to steal the election by force and deceit.