1) First, there were no sound of explosions
LIAR Penelope posted a video and proved you are lying
Where? Link to where Penelope posted that video. After your spectacular failures with your imaginary 'forensic analysis' and your laughably inept 'themetic cutters' that turned out to be glorified lighters, you can understand why we might need a little more than your word.
While you're looking, here's the video disproving the claim:
The collapse initiates so quietly that it didn't even interrupt the conversation of the people near the camera. The FDNY reports nothing of the kind, no massive 'explosions' before the collapse. But instead, a collapse due to fire and structural damage.
That's the kind of thing they'd notice. But.....nothing. Once again, your claims are explicitly contradicted by the evidence.
2) Next, the floors you say the explosions occured were ON FIRE.
LIAR Only a couple floors were on fire
So you say, citing yourself. The FDNY has a very different story:
We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building
with fire on nearly all floors.
–FDNY Lieutenant Robert Larocco
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110081.PDF
.Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down.
–FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn
When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories.
–FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers
At this point Seven World Trade was going heavy, and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down.
–Firefighter Vincent Massa
The whole south side of Seven World Trade had been hit by the collapse of the second Tower, and there was fire on every floor."
– Fire Captain Brenda Berkman
"When I got out and onto a clear pile, I see that 7 World Trade Center and the customs house have serious fire. Almost every window has fire. It is an amazing site.
–Captain Jay Jonas,
7 World Trade was burning from the ground to the ceiling fully involved. It was unbelievable.
–Firefighter Steve Modica
....but you know better that the fire fighters who were there, huh. You were saying about 'tards who pretend they are experts'? Because no rational person would ignore the FDNY on fires...and instead believe you citing yourself.
And with fires engulfing the entire building, any system of demolition would *also* be engulfed in flames. Any timers, any wires, any transmitters, any blasting wire,
At best, explosives would have either detonated
Hey dumb ass this is about thermetic cutters NOT EXPLOSIVES[/COLOR]
Your 'thermetic cutters' turned out to be little more than a glorified lighter that couldn't cut a warm cow pie. Even AE911Truth has to retract their claims. So your 'thermetic cutters' are imaginary. You can't factually establish they even exist.
And of course, all the same problems apply. Any wires used to link the charges would have melted, any timers would have burned up, any blasting wire, any transmitter, any appratus of demolition would have burned up in the fire.
Making your theory a virtual impossibility.
You dont need none of that shit neadrathal brain.
Then now, pray tell, would the charges be able to trigger with such precision, all at the same time? The only thing that wouldn't have ignited was the thermite itself. Everything else, every appratus of demolition, every connection would have been melted in the fire. Yet in your imaginary version, 'thermetic charges' that doesn't exist worked perfectly while in a building fire so severe it consumed every floor?
Um, no. Your conspiracy breaks yet again. Its just an awful explanation.
3) Next, there were no cut beams. How then could explosive sequences or 'thermetic cutters' brought the building down without cutting the girders? There should have been thousands and thousands of such cuts per your reasoning. Yet there were zero.
Cutting the bolts, I posted the pics earlier still the DUMB ASS forever the Dumb ass
The pics didn't show cuts. But twisting....
exactly what we would expect from structural failure. You provided evidence that *contradicts* your theory. So I ask again, where were the cut girders?
Your theory required thousands and thousands of them. And you can't find one.
Worse, your pictures had no indication if they were even from WTC 7. Or if they had been photographed long after clean up...or before it. Rendering them virtually useless in supporting your argument. They could have been from WTC 5, or 4 or 1 or 2 for all you know. You don't actually fact check a damn thing you post, after all.
4) Next, the Port authority bomb squad had gone through the entire WTC plaza only the week before and found no bombs.
Dumb ass it takes less than 30 seconds to apply a cutter to a column
Says who? Again, you can't even factually establish that these 'thermetic cutters' even exist. You have no idea how much they weigh. You've never applied one or seen one applied, owing to that whole 'they don't exist' problem.
So you're literally making that claim up whole, backed by nothing and don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
And you making up bullshit doesn't actually resolve the truck sized holes in your claims.
Worse, the building was on fire. The entire building. You're not going to apply anything in 30 seconds while you're being burned by a 47 story blaze. And you still have all the above problems of the apparatus of the charges being burned up in the blaze. No system of demolition operates while on fire.
Worse still, there were thousands and thousands of them per your silly theory. There is zero chance they would have been missed by those maintaining, cleaning, and occupying the buildings with thousands of copy machine sized canisters bolted to the girders throughout the building.
Your claims just don't make the slightest sense.
Danny Jowenko doesn't say a thing about 'thermetic cutters'. As again,
they don't actually exist. Remember, what you called a 'thermetic cutter' turned out to be low energy igniter that cuts jack shit.
And of course, Jowekno backpedalled quickly once he heard that the building was *on fire*.
Worse, Jowenko was lied to by the interviewer...who said there were only small fires. When in reality, the entire building was ablaze. And worse still, he described placing a few small explosive charges at the base of the building to bring it down. You are claiming that there were 'thermetic cutters' 47 stories up. On every girder going down. Requiring thousands of charges.
Your account and Jowenko's don't match. They're not even close. And you can't lie to us the way the interviewer lied to Jowenko.
Snip isn't an answer. As your narrative breaks no matter which side of the fire you're on. If the building was wired to come down before the fires began, either the Port Authority bomb squad or the folks that used, maintained, inspected and occupied the building would have noticed the thousands of enormous 'thermetic cutters'.
Your narrative also down't work as 'thermetic cutters' don't actually exist.
And if you claim that the imaginary 'thermetic cutters' were placed after the fire, those placing them would have burned up. And the fictitious 'thermetic cutters' would have been on fire. All the apparatus of demolition would have burned up. The wires, the timers, the transmitters, the relays, everything.
But in your imaginary version.....everything worked to absolute perfection in explicit and precicely timed synchronicity
while on fire. Um, no. That's beyond silly. And just another example of the ludicrous degree of complexity and implausibility that the truther conspiracy requires.
Coming or going, before the fire or after, there's simply no way your narrative works. Its just an awful explanation.
6) Detailed analysis of the dust samples at the WTC site show no residue of explosives.
Conventional EXPLOSIVES were not tested for, however radiation was tests were conducted.
The analysis of the dust samples simply measured was was actually there. It was an analysis so precise it could detect prescription medication. It was more than precise enough for tens of thousand of pounds of explosives or hundreds of thousands of pounds of thermite you insist were used.
It didn't find any thing of the sort. Yet another in a series of theory killing holes that you simply can't account for. Any one of which renders your conspiracy ridiculously implausible. Together making it look just silly.
7) And finally, you've still ignored the FDNY...who watched the building bulge, buckle and burn for hours before the collapse, and correctly predicted its collapse hours before it occured. And you ignore them for no particular reason. That's expert eye-witness testimony collected over hours from direct and unobstructed observation of WTC 7. And they cite massive fire and structural damage. Explicitly contradicting you. And you ignore them entirely.
yeh if you strapped charges to the columns you could predict it will collapse too, more debunker dumbass.
So now you're claiming it was the FDNY who strapped charges to the building?
While it was on fire....
All the way to the 47th floor.....
Holy shit, Dude. Not only does that make absolutely no sense at all, as 9/11 cost 343 of their own, giving them no reason to participate in the mass murder of thousands and 343 reasons not to.
But its just a vile, cowardly, and loathsome accusation.
Its the kind of shit that your ilk would
never have the courage to say to the face of one of the fire fighters who survived 911. But would only post anonymously on a message board.
NIST overulled them said the damage was superficial, another worn out debunker shit story
NIST ruled it was fire that brought the building down, with the FDNY citing fire and structural damage. If the NIST isa reliable source, then the debate is done.
Yet you're literally ignoring the NIST while citing the NIST. Which is just hysterically inconsistent. But then, so is the truther conspiracy.
8) And of course, you also ignore the NIST.....again for no particular reason. They cite reasons quite similar to the FDNY: the massive fires. So you have to expert sources with unequalled access to the scene both giving you a plausible, verifiable cause: massive fires.
No they dont, tey cite expansion and the failure of one column, more of the same asshelmet debunker dumbass
They cited the failure of one column due to *fire*;
The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building.
FAQs - NIST WTC 7 Investigation
Note the phrases 'heat from the uncontrolled fires' and 'fire induced progressive collapse'. Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. While the NIST does. So why would I ignore the NIST and instead believe you?
got to do more than just this-
to prove your case.
