'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....

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Unknown to most Americans, both a pivotal point in WWII, and as indisputable evidence of Franklin Roosevelt's acquiescence to what can only be seen as his lord and master, Joseph Stalin, is "The Morgenthau Plan."

This thread can be most instructive as a lever to open the mind of any who have been steeped in the indoctrination via government schooling.




1. Even the most inattentive and heedless observers of the political scene must admit that in America, socialism has been on 'the long march.' There is quibble room as to exactly what 'socialist' entails....e.g., Bernie Sanders et al, but it's overall designs are hardly different from the most ambitious version, international socialism, known as communism.

2. Giving credit where credit is due, the prominent architect was Joseph 'Koba' Stalin. Whether he was more astute or more ruthless, than the other players in the game of geopolitics...students of history will decide....but he was both.

Well before WWII began, Stalin had plans for worldwide conquest, and his plans involved using both Adolph Hitler and Franklin Roosevelt.

a. As the sprang from the same source, Hitler and Stalin were long time allies....
When Hitler began his advances on other countries, Stalin refused to join the nations talking of stopping him.
Stalin was, in fact, pleased that Hitler was destroying the old order throughout Europe. "There will be no parliaments, no trade unions, no armies, no governments....then Stalin will come as the liberator...millions of people will be sitting in concentration camps, hoping someone will liberate them, then Stalin and the Red Army will come and liberate them. That was his plan."
Vladimir Bukovsky.


Right up until June 21, 1941, Stalin and Hitler were allies, and Stalin provided the resources for German war machine.




3. For whatever reason, Franklin Roosevelt was a willing pawn for Stalin. Roosevelt knew of the slaughters and genocides by the Soviet regime, yet did everything he could to endorse, supply, and make certain Stalin and Soviet Communism survived.....what can be the explanation?

This:
Roosevelt yearned for the totalist powers that his pals, Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin, enjoyed.
So....with very little effort, Stalin was able to insert his spies and apparatchiks into the mechanism of American government.


Hence....the Stalin Plan For Total Destruction of Germany....known as the Morgenthau Plan.

The plan,...and it's disastrous result......will follow.



4. While Hitler was useful to Stalin early on, the endgame required that his brand of socialism, national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...had to be removed as an impediment to Stalin's conquest of Europe, and then further.
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage, with no ability to resist Stalin's forces. This was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan.


c. "Archival evidence indicates that the Soviet’s wanted the war to continue long enough for them to conquer Eastern Europe and in order for Germany to be utterly destroyed or “pastoralized” which was called for in the Morgenthau Plan which was actually written by Soviet spy Harry Dexter White. The Soviets were also clamoring for a “second front” in France in order to deflect the allies out of Italy and the Balkans which was too close to Russia."
Chuck Morse Speaks: The Canaris Cover-up


Enter Roosevelt, stage Left.
Coming right up....
 
Same spam as last time....Damn girl, you stuck going up hill in too high gear..


Translation:
The meaning and import of the 'Morgenthau Plan' is one more episode about which you are clueless.

Have no fear....I will provide, a usual, an undeniable, irrefutable, thread which explains the Morgenthau Plan, and why is a hermeneutical key to the relationship of Hitler, Stalin, and Roosevelt.



You should take notes.
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?


...did you note that there was not a single thing in the OP that you were able to deny?



Or....is that, actually, what puts the burr under your saddle?


Is that the reason you made up this lie, that you can't relate to any quote of mine?
"Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?"


I'd say that you just proved that everything I said is true.
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?
She still thinks that a fascist is the same thing as a communist..There is no hope for her...
 
Same spam as last time....Damn girl, you stuck going up hill in too high gear..


BTW.....

....did you note that there was not a single thing in the OP that you were able to deny?



Or....is that, actually, what puts the burr under your saddle?
You had the same thread up earlier this week.....It is like a sewer plant with your threads...


No I didn't.

But...why does revealing the iniquities of Roosevelt anger you so???

Why?
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?
^ fan of communist death camps

You know that your Uncle Joe was one of historys greatest mass murderers, right
 
5. The plan for 'unconditional surrender' began in the Kremlin, was foisted on to the Roosevelt administration via Stalin's spies working for Roosevelt.
When Stalin saw a possibility of German surrender before they were emasculated....he formed the Morgenthau Plan.


Here's the timeline:

America entered WWII very late in 1941....actually, 1942.


F.W. Winterbotham was chief of air intelligence for Britain's MI6, and wrote in his memoir that he had approved a plan sent by Wilhelm Canaris, head of German military intelligence, to overthrow Hitler and surrender to the Allies, in 1942. ("Secret and Personal," by F.W. Winterbotham )

Imagine....the war could have been ended in '42-'43.
Stalin wouldn't allow it.



Harry Hopkins, Stalin's spy who actually lived in the White House gave a speech on June 22, 1942, at the Russia Aid Rally, Madison Square Garden, where he said "And his cities, one by one, will be destroyed by Allied air forces." Ottawa Citizen - Google News Archive Search

Hopkins was telegraphing Stalin's demands that Germany be pulverized, pastoralized, de-industrialized.....just after anti-Nazi/anti-communist German resistance have made contact with the Allies to talk surrender.



"It was at about the time of this speech that unconditional surrender was being, in effect, rammed through US government channels (May 1942), just as the big press for Stalin's 'second front' was also under way." Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 304



Lots of facts there for the Roosevelt groupies to try an dispute.
Bet they can't.
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?


...did you note that there was not a single thing in the OP that you were able to deny?



Or....is that, actually, what puts the burr under your saddle?


Is that the reason you made up this lie, that you can't relate to any quote of mine?
"Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?"


I'd say that you just proved that everything I said is true.

Frau Braun

Why do you want the lines of occupation to be settled before the Death Camps could be liberated?

Did you want the Nazis to finish the job?
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?


...did you note that there was not a single thing in the OP that you were able to deny?



Or....is that, actually, what puts the burr under your saddle?


Is that the reason you made up this lie, that you can't relate to any quote of mine?
"Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?"


I'd say that you just proved that everything I said is true.

Frau Braun

Why do you want the lines of occupation to be settled before the Death Camps could be liberated?

Did you want the Nazis to finish the job?


Every time you attempt that slander, I smile.
By using the oft-time Alinsky methodology, you inadvertently prove the truth of my posts.


While I never had any affinity for any totalitarians, certainly neither Hitler nor Stalin....

...your inamorata, Franklin Roosevelt had sterling relations with both.

In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.



Please don't hesitate to try again....
..and I'll eviscerate you once more.
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?
She still thinks that a fascist is the same thing as a communist..There is no hope for her...



Well.....here is a little quiz that will determine whether or not there is any 'hope' for you.

Bet you'll dodge it.

Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism



And....based on ignorance and cowardice, you've been tricked into subscribing to one and all.
 
Except you got it all wrong..Where did Adolf's inspiration for his brand of right winged dictatorship come from?
 
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage

Damn...works for me

Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?


...did you note that there was not a single thing in the OP that you were able to deny?



Or....is that, actually, what puts the burr under your saddle?


Is that the reason you made up this lie, that you can't relate to any quote of mine?
"Why does PC want to leave the Nazi Death Camps in place?"


I'd say that you just proved that everything I said is true.

Frau Braun

Why do you want the lines of occupation to be settled before the Death Camps could be liberated?

Did you want the Nazis to finish the job?


Every time you attempt that slander, I smile.
By using the oft-time Alinsky methodology, you inadvertently prove the truth of my posts.


While I never had any affinity for any totalitarians, certainly neither Hitler nor Stalin....

...your inamorata, Franklin Roosevelt had sterling relations with both.

In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.



Please don't hesitate to try again....
..and I'll eviscerate you once more.
Frau Braun

You somehow neglected to explain how nazi death camps would have been liberated without the full anihilation of nazi Germany
 
Except you got it all wrong..Where did
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism



come from?


1. Now, get this straight: I am NEVER wrong.

2. Let's prove that: you wrote "
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism
Except you got it all wrong..Where did Adolf's inspiration for his brand of right winged dictatorship come from?

Now, get this straight: I am NEVER wrong.

1. I just bet you'd run from that 'quiz.' I win, huh?


2. Let's prove that: you wrote "Adolf's inspiration for his brand of right winged dictatorship blah blah blah..."

Hitler was Leftwing.
Just as Stalin, Roosevelt.....and you, are.



"... two main points: (1) To show why Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And (2) to show why socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.
.... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der National sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ....

[The mistake is] to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed."
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


And this:

Prior to WWII, Progressives, especially FDR, were totally enamored with the polices of Mussolini, and Hitler.

"Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization."
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf



See what I mean?
I'm NEVER wrong.
 

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