The Many Lies Of The Left

[The T]

Unfortunately? Politics has become commerce in of itself, and has corrupted absolutely.

Only because we've allowed ourselves to be corrupted absolutely.

This is exactly why we need to repent. This is why we need Christ. So that we can eliminate the corruption in our hearts.

No argument here.

 

[edthecynic]

A lie is a lie. The difference is does the liar know he's lying when he does so.

Many won't cut Bush the same slack.

Everyone in Congress, the CIA, and every intelligence agency in the world said Saddam was building WMDs. They said that he had them.

"Iraq does not represent any threat to the United States at this time. Their weapons programs have been exaggerated by the Clinton Administration."
- Tom Delay, 1999

"We are now convinced Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction or active programs."
- President Bill Clinton, August 9th, 2000

"We do not have any direct evidence that Iraq has used the period since Desert Fox to reconstitute its WMD programs"
-George Tenet, 2/07/2001

"We believe the sanctions have been effective, and Saddam Hussein's regime has no weapons of mass destruction."
-Condoleeza Rice, February 16th, 2001

"Containment has been achieved, and we now believe Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction or the capability of producing them."
- Colin Powell, February 23rd, 2001

"He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors"
-Colin Powell, 2/24/2001

 

[The T]

I doubt that there's a single Christian alive who follows Christ at all. But that's a different subject.

Then my friend? You aren't paying attention and have little understanding of what you speak.

 

[Avatar4321]

A lie is a lie. The difference is does the liar know he's lying when he does so.

Many won't cut Bush the same slack.

Everyone in Congress, the CIA, and every intelligence agency in the world said Saddam was building WMDs. They said that he had them.

"Iraq does not represent any threat to the United States at this time. Their weapons programs have been exaggerated by the Clinton Administration."
- Tom Delay, 1999

"We are now convinced Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction or active programs."
- President Bill Clinton, August 9th, 2000

"We do not have any direct evidence that Iraq has used the period since Desert Fox to reconstitute its WMD programs"
-George Tenet, 2/07/2001

"We believe the sanctions have been effective, and Saddam Hussein's regime has no weapons of mass destruction."
-Condoleeza Rice, February 16th, 2001

"Containment has been achieved, and we now believe Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction or the capability of producing them."
- Colin Powell, February 23rd, 2001

"He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors"
-Colin Powell, 2/24/2001

Not that I condone lying in the past, but it's been almost 10 years since we had this debate. Can we just leave it in the past?

 

[Care4all]

Oh How I wish that's what was going on right now.

I long for the day we will be a free people once again. Ironically, it will only happen when we stop demanding our rights and pick up our responsibilities.

Were we free people during Jesus's time on Earth and did Jesus care one way or the other? From my readings, I don't believe Jesus let the injustices of government bother Him one iota....all the Pharisees wanted Him to care about the government, but He refused to be pulled in to that game...from my understanding of it all?

Jesus was very political. Here's a good place to start:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348]Amazon.com: The Politics of Jesus (9780802807342): John Howard Yoder: Books[/ame]

Really? How so? Can you explain it instead of me having to buy a book by some author I know not?

 

[The T]

The Many Lies Of The Left

Mike Huckabee left the Democrat Party when they decided to add abortion to their Party Platform. Most Christians did. What I find fascinating is that the organization Margaret Sanger started to rid the world of socially undesirable people (Planned Parenthood) is not only supported by the Democrat Party, but that so many blacks support it even though one of Sanger's primary goals was to keep the black population in check (and eventually eliminate them). Planned Parenthood continues to keep the black population around the 13% level and blacks support the very political party that keeps it afloat. I guess LBJ had it right when he explained why the Civil Rights Bill was so important to him: "I'll have them ******* voting Democratic for two hundred years!" Amazing how people can be so brainwashed that they support the very people who wish to eradicate them.

you are using Crusader Frank's quote of lbj....can you LINK it? Because I have searched from hell to high water for a legitimate source for that quote and there IS NOT ONE, at least not one that I can find.

Care

Here is a fair answer to your question...

And fair warning? The link I give has many links contained within it. LBJ was third-handed quoting FDR from what I read...

Decide for yourself.

 

[Old Rocks]

Is it really?

There are Repubicans...and then there are Conservatives...

Whom are you speaking of?

Really, I'm speaking of any political flavor one can find out there. Republicans don't lie, conservatives don't lie, Democrats don't lie, liberals don't lie, centrists don't lie, independents don't lie, Libertarians don't lie....PEOPLE lie. You can find it on any side of any issue.

PEOPLE DO Lie...Bully for you saying that...I'd be more impressed had you said Career POLITICIANS however.

Conservatives are for the vision of the Founders. Citizen legislators that do their bit, and go home back to REAL commerce producing jobs... and don't make a CAREER of politics on the public dole.

You're close...but not close enough.

Boy, are you ever right. Look at all the jobs the Conservative policys created in 2008 and 2009.

 

[Old Rocks]

A lie is a lie. The difference is does the liar know he's lying when he does so.

Many won't cut Bush the same slack.

Everyone in Congress, the CIA, and every intelligence agency in the world said Saddam was building WMDs. They said that he had them.

"Iraq does not represent any threat to the United States at this time. Their weapons programs have been exaggerated by the Clinton Administration."
- Tom Delay, 1999

"We are now convinced Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction or active programs."
- President Bill Clinton, August 9th, 2000

"We do not have any direct evidence that Iraq has used the period since Desert Fox to reconstitute its WMD programs"
-George Tenet, 2/07/2001

"We believe the sanctions have been effective, and Saddam Hussein's regime has no weapons of mass destruction."
-Condoleeza Rice, February 16th, 2001

"Containment has been achieved, and we now believe Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction or the capability of producing them."
- Colin Powell, February 23rd, 2001

"He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors"
-Colin Powell, 2/24/2001

Not that I condone lying in the past, but it's been almost 10 years since we had this debate. Can we just leave it in the past?

And leave the memories of the over 4000 service men and women that died for the lies in the past also. Very good idea, then we can just repeat that peice of idiocy again in the near future.

 

[The T]

Really, I'm speaking of any political flavor one can find out there. Republicans don't lie, conservatives don't lie, Democrats don't lie, liberals don't lie, centrists don't lie, independents don't lie, Libertarians don't lie....PEOPLE lie. You can find it on any side of any issue.

PEOPLE DO Lie...Bully for you saying that...I'd be more impressed had you said Career POLITICIANS however.

Conservatives are for the vision of the Founders. Citizen legislators that do their bit, and go home back to REAL commerce producing jobs... and don't make a CAREER of politics on the public dole.

You're close...but not close enough.

Boy, are you ever right. Look at all the jobs the Conservative policys created in 2008 and 2009.

But Whom had the power since 2006-2007? Whom had the gavels?

Wasn't Conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. And that includes the 'Compassionate Conservative' POTUS of the time.

 

[Care4all]

Mike Huckabee left the Democrat Party when they decided to add abortion to their Party Platform. Most Christians did. What I find fascinating is that the organization Margaret Sanger started to rid the world of socially undesirable people (Planned Parenthood) is not only supported by the Democrat Party, but that so many blacks support it even though one of Sanger's primary goals was to keep the black population in check (and eventually eliminate them). Planned Parenthood continues to keep the black population around the 13% level and blacks support the very political party that keeps it afloat. I guess LBJ had it right when he explained why the Civil Rights Bill was so important to him: "I'll have them ******* voting Democratic for two hundred years!" Amazing how people can be so brainwashed that they support the very people who wish to eradicate them.

you are using Crusader Frank's quote of lbj....can you LINK it? Because I have searched from hell to high water for a legitimate source for that quote and there IS NOT ONE, at least not one that I can find.

Care

Here is a fair answer to your question...

And fair warning? The link I give has many links contained within it. LBJ was third-handed quoting FDR from what I read...

Decide for yourself.

ty....that is about as far as I could get....some guy wrote a book saying that lbj said this, with NO verifiable PROOF. this is the first I heard, that lbj was quoting FDR and NOT saying this himself...

 

[Care4all]

PEOPLE DO Lie...Bully for you saying that...I'd be more impressed had you said Career POLITICIANS however.

Conservatives are for the vision of the Founders. Citizen legislators that do their bit, and go home back to REAL commerce producing jobs... and don't make a CAREER of politics on the public dole.

You're close...but not close enough.

Boy, are you ever right. Look at all the jobs the Conservative policys created in 2008 and 2009.

But Whom had the power since 2006-2007? Whom had the gavels?

Wasn't Conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. And that includes the 'Compassionate Conservative' POTUS of the time.

seriously? Are republicans conservatives? Cuz dems did not take control until 2007 and we were already in a downslide?

 

[edthecynic]

Bill O'Reilly asked Obama point blank, " But you don't want the Muslim Brotherhood, do you???"

Instead Obama dodged the question and said, "I think the new government should be a representative government".

That, in case you haven't been paying attention, means he supports the Muslim Brotherhood or at the very least doesn't care.

I noticed what you folks on the left use as your best mode of attack is to attempt to put words in my mouth.

I'm not falling for it.

But try if you feel you must.

That's Right! Only YOU are allowed to put words in the mouths of others!
What a HYPOCRITE!!!!

 

[The T]

you are using Crusader Frank's quote of lbj....can you LINK it? Because I have searched from hell to high water for a legitimate source for that quote and there IS NOT ONE, at least not one that I can find.

Care

Here is a fair answer to your question...

And fair warning? The link I give has many links contained within it. LBJ was third-handed quoting FDR from what I read...

Decide for yourself.

ty....that is about as far as I could get....some guy wrote a book saying that lbj said this, with NO verifiable PROOF. this is the first I heard, that lbj was quoting FDR and NOT saying this himself...

I've looked into it myself, and that was a bookmark that I kept. Sorry I didn't save other links that I read. What I saved I thought was reasonable and for time sake I imparted it to you without going on another time-consuming search.

 

[gekaap]

Then my friend? You aren't paying attention and have little understanding of what you speak.

I know plenty about it. There is little of Jesus in modern day Christianity.

 

[Ernie S.]

Let's look at that outright lies of these people:

First Obama compared himself to Lincoln when he announced he was running.
Then everyone started comparing him to JFK, Michelle to Jackie.He claims he will close GITMO.
He claims he will get us out of Iraq.
He claims we must pull out of Iraq so we can go to Afghanistan were he will find Bin Laden. Don't hold your breath.

Then he claimed that the Stimulus would create jobs, which it never has.
They change the way the unemployed are counted so they can fudge the stats. We are currently over 10% but nobody really knows how much.
Then they claimed that their Health Care bill would cut costs and provide insurance for everyone but it's discovered it does nether.

Obama claims he's not a Muslim but supports them at every turn.
Obama claims he's a Christian, and he starts going to church after two years of not going and declaring this is not a Christian nation and refusing to attend the annual prayer breakfast.

Obama claims jobs are his number one priority but he seems to spend all of his time on everything else.

Now the Gulf Oil spill. Obama says he was on the job from day one, forgetting that he first said it wasn't his problem but BP's, and he will not rest till the oil spill is capped and the mess cleaned up....then he goes on vacation and the leak continues for months. You see Obama was so busy calling an entire state racist that he forgot to do his job. So for 10 days he ignored the largest ecological disaster in our history so he could bad-mouth Arizona.

He claimed he lifted the drilling moratorium, and he did, for a day, then promptly re-instated it. He is currently in contempt of court to a federal judge's court order to remove said moratorium.

The left claims that Sarah Palin had something to do with the Arizona Shooter. This time Obama is all over it so he can act like he cares, unlike the way he acted after several service members were shot and killed at Ft Hood earlier last year.

Harry Reid recently said that Social Security is funded for at least 40 years.

Nancy Pelosi said, after she lost 66 seats, that their primary goal was to cut the deficit.

The Tea Party is called violent and full of racists. Code Pink is ignored when they say they want to cut off Clarence Thomas's toes and feed them to him.


Chris Matthews compares the Tea Party to the Muslim Brotherhood. Problem is the Muslim Brotherhood founded Hamas. Many Al Qaeda members are also members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Now Obama's media cohorts claims he's the second coming of Ronald Reagan, forget that this came to them around the 100th anniversary of his birth.

My how convenient.

The lies are too many to list here.

So I ask you, how can anyone believe anything these people say????

Let's start at the beginning of your rant....those two things didn't happen?

Well? Did those first two things happen or not?

Yes

He was a boy with a distant father, raised in a family of modest means. He had a curious intellect, devouring history and memorizing passages from Shakespeare. He became a lawyer and settled in Illinois, where he was elected to the state legislature. With relatively little political experience, he decided to run for president. Few believed he stood a chance of winning a primary campaign against the party's heir apparent, a senator from New York.

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[Avatar4321]

Boy, are you ever right. Look at all the jobs the Conservative policys created in 2008 and 2009.

Could you provide an example of conservative policies that were applied in those years?

Last time I checked, Government grow in size. Spending grew in cost. Taxes were relatively stable.

So I repeat, what conservative policies?

 

[JFK_USA]

So sad when Cons post after hitting the sauce.

Funny thing is, I didn't have to get drunk to type this up, nor did I have to make a word of it up.

Maybe you folks need to, but I don't.

Yes you did. So lets start at the beginning

Stimulus didn't create jobs: Wrong. It actually held jobs in place and helped states cover their deficits. Texas used the stimulus to cover up most their deficits. It preserved 3.5 million jobs meaning more money in the economy to spend to help preserve and create jobs. We are starting to come out of it now. If that wasn't passed, we would be in a worse position that we are currently.

He ended combat operations in Iraq, something Bush never did.

Bush never found Bin Laden.

The Health Care bill may not cut the costs it intended to but right now, people with pre-existing conditions get health insurance. So many good things in this bill. Are their thing in their that Democrats don't like? Of Course but every damn time we tried to compromise, the Health Insurance party said screw the people. We are with our best friends, the insurance companies.

So he isn't allowed to go on vacation? Bush went on a record number of vacations.

And the Federal Judge is not president. He doesn't have to listen to want a judge wants and his political views. If every president had to, they would listen to everyone the opposite party put in. If a federal judge ruled that Bush had to pull the troops out of Iraq, should Bush have done it?

Social Security is solvent until 2037. So right now its fine, it will need to increase the rate to pay for retirees but right now they get $13000 a year so its not like senior citizens are liviing high and mighty. They need to have supplemental income on that.

The Tea Party has some racists people in there factions just as the Muslim Brotherhood has some radical factions in their groups. But you call the Muslim brotherhood radical and we will call the tea party racist. Fair?

You're welcome now come back to reality.

 

[bodecea]

Let's start at the beginning of your rant....those two things didn't happen?

Well? Did those first two things happen or not?

Yes

He was a boy with a distant father, raised in a family of modest means. He had a curious intellect, devouring history and memorizing passages from Shakespeare. He became a lawyer and settled in Illinois, where he was elected to the state legislature. With relatively little political experience, he decided to run for president. Few believed he stood a chance of winning a primary campaign against the party's heir apparent, a senator from New York.

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Then, they are not lies, are they....the OP is dismissed as a liar himself.

 

[xsited1]

The Many Lies Of The Left

Mike Huckabee left the Democrat Party when they decided to add abortion to their Party Platform. Most Christians did. What I find fascinating is that the organization Margaret Sanger started to rid the world of socially undesirable people (Planned Parenthood) is not only supported by the Democrat Party, but that so many blacks support it even though one of Sanger's primary goals was to keep the black population in check (and eventually eliminate them). Planned Parenthood continues to keep the black population around the 13% level and blacks support the very political party that keeps it afloat. I guess LBJ had it right when he explained why the Civil Rights Bill was so important to him: "I'll have them ******* voting Democratic for two hundred years!" Amazing how people can be so brainwashed that they support the very people who wish to eradicate them.

you are using Crusader Frank's quote of lbj....can you LINK it? Because I have searched from hell to high water for a legitimate source for that quote and there IS NOT ONE, at least not one that I can find.

Care

Who or what is Crusader Frank?

 

[Care4all]

i didn't see obama comparing himself to lincoln in the link supplied ernie...? i read obama admired him, as with near all presidents have done....?