The Louisiana Purchase is fake

[WinterBorn]

I think the Iroquois were mostly in the Louisiana area, if Louisiana really was there.

You would be wrong. The Iroquois were from the northeast. In the US they lived in upstate New York and Pennsylvania. Not even close to Louisiana.

 

[WinterBorn]

After all, it is logical to assume that they must have come from the West, and therefore from Louisiana. They needed to equip the troops, but they could not do this in the territory of the British states before they conquered them.

It is logical that they came from the northeast, because that is where they lived.

 

[rupol2000]

A simple Google search can save you a lot of embarrassment.

from: Iroquois | History, Culture, & Facts
"Iroquois, any member of the North American Indian tribes speaking a language of the Iroquoian family—notably the Cayuga, Cherokee, Huron, Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Seneca, and Tuscarora. The peoples who spoke Iroquoian languages occupied a continuous territory around Lakes Ontario, Huron, and Erie in present-day New York state and Pennsylvania (U.S.) and southern Ontario and Quebec (Canada)."

It was on the great lakes to the west of the British colonies.
It must be Louisiana.

 

[rupol2000]

You would be wrong. The Iroquois were from the northeast. In the US they lived in upstate New York and Pennsylvania. Not even close to Louisiana.

it looks like you still don’t understand what kind of “Louisiana” we are talking about

 

[Zincwarrior]

It was on the great lakes to the west of the British colonies.
It must be Louisiana.

Your own quote says NY state. NY your state is on the Eastern seaboard. Louisiana is on the western side of the Gulf Coast.

 

[WinterBorn]

It was on the great lakes to the west of the British colonies.
It must be Louisiana.

The British colonies were at the eastern edge of the continent. The Iroquois was in upstate New York and PA. Not even close to Louisiana.

 

[Zincwarrior]

it looks like you still don’t understand what kind of “Louisiana” we are talking about

WTF?

 

[rupol2000]

in fact, apparently there was no Louisiana at all, it was the new France. But the new France practically did not colonize these lands at all, they simply declared them the property of the king. There was only fur trade

Attempts at farmer colonization there were precisely from Britain, the Indians themselves fought with Britain, and achieved a ban on colonization. France apparently lost these lands already at the entrance of the Seven Years' War. But it weren't really French at all, they were just mouth opening.
Relations between the Indians and the British were regulated by the Indian Bill of Rights

 

[rupol2000]

was in upstate New York and PA

fucking nonsense

 

[WinterBorn]

it looks like you still don’t understand what kind of “Louisiana” we are talking about

Even your map is wrong.

Here are 3 maps from 3 different sources showing the actual Louisiana Purchase.

 

[WinterBorn]

fucking nonsense

You can say that all you want. But the facts do not change.

 

[WinterBorn]

WTF?

Yeah, I have no idea what that map is supposed to show. But it is not the Louisiana Purchase. rupol just found a map in russian and posted it like it means something.

 

[WinterBorn]

fucking nonsense

No, not nonsense. It is fact.

Here is what Britannica.com says about the Iroquois.

from: Iroquois Confederacy | Definition, Significance, History, & Facts
"Iroquois Confederacy, self-name Haudenosaunee (“People of the Longhouse”), also called Iroquois League, Five Nations, or (from 1722) Six Nations, confederation of five (later six) Indian tribes across upper New York state that during the 17th and 18th centuries played a strategic role in the struggle between the French and British for mastery of North America."

Let me make it bigger so your dumbass can understand it.

"...confederation of five (later six) Indian tribes across upper New York state that during the 17th and 18th centuries..."

 

[WinterBorn]

in fact, apparently there was no Louisiana at all, it was the new France. But the new France practically did not colonize these lands at all, they simply declared them the property of the king. There was only fur trade

Attempts at farmer colonization there were precisely from Britain, the Indians themselves fought with Britain, and achieved a ban on colonization. France apparently lost these lands already at the entrance of the Seven Years' War. But it weren't really French at all, they were just mouth opening.
Relations between the Indians and the British were regulated by the Indian Bill of Rights

When exploring new lands, virtually every nation proclaimed lands as theirs. France proclaimed the lands theirs.

 

[rupol2000]

When exploring new lands, virtually every nation proclaimed lands as theirs. France proclaimed the lands theirs.

That's right, that's why these lands were not actually French at all, although there were trading colonies there. In fact, these lands were controlled by the Indians, and the Indians kicked the ass of the British, kicking their colonists from their lands. And a little later, the British were generally expelled to Canada

 

[rupol2000]

No, not nonsense. It is fact.

This contradicts the fact that the Iroquois confederation was outside the English colonies.

 

[WinterBorn]

This contradicts the fact that the Iroquois confederation was outside the English colonies.

Who said they were outside the English colonies? New York is a large state. So is Pennsylvania. The Iroquois did not live in the English villages, but they were in upstate NY and in western PA.

But they were not in the area that would become the Louisianna Purchase.

 

[rupol2000]

Who said they were outside the English colonies?

It can be seen on the map, stop fucking around

 

[WinterBorn]

It can be seen on the map, stop fucking around

I don't know what map you are referring to, but the Iroquois were in upstate NY and in western PA. Those are the facts.

And neither of those is anywhere near the lands that would be part of the Louisiana Purchase.

 

[rupol2000]

Your own quote says NY state. NY your state is on the Eastern seaboard. Louisiana is on the western side of the Gulf Coast.

We are talking about the Louisiana on the map, it means New France.