The life comparison of Muhammad and Jesus

[saveliberty]

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it's clear Mohamed earned a living, does anyone know how Jesus supported himself - was it by a synagogue ?

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Ah...His dad was God...

 

[HaShev]

We don't behead people who we can't convert.

Just torture them with devices or in your case berate them to death.

Torture
For Heretics to go through readmisson into the Catholic church Raymond VII of Toulouse's and others were forced bare footed, a nose tied around the neck, and shirtless. (I am told this was how heretics were dressed before burnings).
They were paraded around the church a certain number of times and scourged by a church official.
Pope Innocent III 1161-1216 "Use against heretics the spiritual sword of excommunication, and if this does not prove effective, use the material sword."
The Art of Medieval Torture (this material sword) Torture was enthusiastically applied by early Church officials and noblemen in their employ for four reasons:
To force confessions or secret information from those accused of heresy or witchcraft, whether guilty or innocent; To punish or discourage dissent and intellectual freedom; To persuade Jews(who by the way they claim follow the same God), Muslims, and other non-believers to accept Christianity; and To enjoy the sadistic pleasure of inflicting agony, including experimenting with newly devised or perfected techniques of torture. Devices used by the Church: the foot was fitted into an oversized COPPER BOOT, boiling oil was slowly poured into the boot to strip the flesh from the bones.

Another device of the Church: was the infamous viselike FOOT PRESS which was slowly tightened by the crank to crush feet between its solid iron plates, which were lined with hundreds of razor-sharp spikes to make the torture even more intense. More sadistic torture could be found in the way they would devise FOOT ROASTING, which was the favorite torture of the Spanish Inquisition. Immobilized in the stocks, the soles of the victim's bare feet were thickly basted with lard and slowly broiled over red-hot coals.

Everyone has seen "the RACK" in movies: The rollers of this RACK pulled the victim's wrists and ankles in opposite directions to tear his body apart. A spiked drum might be installed to disembowel the face-downward victim. There was also a bench held which victim immobile while he was slowly SKINNED ALIVE with a scalpel-like instrument. Salt was rubbed into the raw flesh to make for a more horrifying experience.
They also had these toothed iron TESTICLE CRUSHERS slowly squeezed the victim's testicles until they were destroyed. *(note- today singers use these to hit their high notes)*

 

[HaShev]

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it's clear Mohamed earned a living, does anyone know how Jesus supported himself - was it by a synagogue ?

.

Don't know which of the combined characters the Lazarus story is from, but the NT and found missing portions of Mark share the story of Jesus sleeping with a naked young
rich boy thought to be Lazarus, so his donations from his "Bosom Buddy" seemed to finance his ministry. What he did for that money is left to imagination.

Sources:

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

 

[the_human_being]

We don't behead people who we can't convert.

Just torture them with devices or in your case berate them to death.

Torture
For Heretics to go through readmisson into the Catholic church Raymond VII of Toulouse's and others were forced bare footed, a nose tied around the neck, and shirtless. (I am told this was how heretics were dressed before burnings).
They were paraded around the church a certain number of times and scourged by a church official.
Pope Innocent III 1161-1216 "Use against heretics the spiritual sword of excommunication, and if this does not prove effective, use the material sword."
The Art of Medieval Torture (this material sword) Torture was enthusiastically applied by early Church officials and noblemen in their employ for four reasons:
To force confessions or secret information from those accused of heresy or witchcraft, whether guilty or innocent; To punish or discourage dissent and intellectual freedom; To persuade Jews(who by the way they claim follow the same God), Muslims, and other non-believers to accept Christianity; and To enjoy the sadistic pleasure of inflicting agony, including experimenting with newly devised or perfected techniques of torture. Devices used by the Church: the foot was fitted into an oversized COPPER BOOT, boiling oil was slowly poured into the boot to strip the flesh from the bones.

Another device of the Church: was the infamous viselike FOOT PRESS which was slowly tightened by the crank to crush feet between its solid iron plates, which were lined with hundreds of razor-sharp spikes to make the torture even more intense. More sadistic torture could be found in the way they would devise FOOT ROASTING, which was the favorite torture of the Spanish Inquisition. Immobilized in the stocks, the soles of the victim's bare feet were thickly basted with lard and slowly broiled over red-hot coals.

Everyone has seen "the RACK" in movies: The rollers of this RACK pulled the victim's wrists and ankles in opposite directions to tear his body apart. A spiked drum might be installed to disembowel the face-downward victim. There was also a bench held which victim immobile while he was slowly SKINNED ALIVE with a scalpel-like instrument. Salt was rubbed into the raw flesh to make for a more horrifying experience.
They also had these toothed iron TESTICLE CRUSHERS slowly squeezed the victim's testicles until they were destroyed. *(note- today singers use these to hit their high notes)*

Well fool, like I stated, that was a bunch of crazies years past. Now, in your own case, you are a present day nut job.

 

[the_human_being]

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it's clear Mohamed earned a living, does anyone know how Jesus supported himself - was it by a synagogue ?

.

Don't know which of the combined characters the Lazarus story is from, but the NT and found missing portions of Mark share the story of Jesus sleeping with a naked young
rich boy thought to be Lazarus, so his donations from his "Bosom Buddy" seemed to finance his ministry. What he did for that money is left to imagination.

Sources:

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Fits? Perhaps? Was this? Could be? LOL! You will do anything to bolster your lies and hate filled message.

 

[HaShev]

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it's clear Mohamed earned a living, does anyone know how Jesus supported himself - was it by a synagogue ?

.

Don't know which of the combined characters the Lazarus story is from, but the NT and found missing portions of Mark share the story of Jesus sleeping with a naked young
rich boy thought to be Lazarus, so his donations from his "Bosom Buddy" seemed to finance his ministry. What he did for that money is left to imagination.

Sources:

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Fits? Perhaps? Was this? Could be? LOL! You will do anything to bolster your lies and hate filled message.

Since I posted all NT sources then you admit the NT is full of lies and hate filled messages. Case closed.
Let's review your loving replies to people when you can't refute what they say:

12:12pm 2/23/16
Human_being quoted to some forum poster:
Christ had nothing to do with that. You are proof that crazies exist.
3:57 pm 2/23/16
Human_being quoted:
Well fool, like I stated, that was a bunch of crazies years past. Now, in your own case, you are a present day nut job.

And the pattern emerges, you are displacing your behavior traits. Have you seen a Christian counselor about your anger?
Maybe you should try a Rabbi or Taoist monk or some Yoga instructor.

 

[the_human_being]

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it's clear Mohamed earned a living, does anyone know how Jesus supported himself - was it by a synagogue ?

.

Don't know which of the combined characters the Lazarus story is from, but the NT and found missing portions of Mark share the story of Jesus sleeping with a naked young
rich boy thought to be Lazarus, so his donations from his "Bosom Buddy" seemed to finance his ministry. What he did for that money is left to imagination.

Sources:

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Fits? Perhaps? Was this? Could be? LOL! You will do anything to bolster your lies and hate filled message.

Since I posted all NT sources then you admit the NT is full of lies and hate filled messages. Case closed.
Let's review your loving replies to people when you can't refute what they say:

12:12pm 2/23/16
Human_being quoted to some forum poster:
Christ had nothing to do with that. You are proof that crazies exist.
3:57 pm 2/23/16
Human_being quoted:
Well fool, like I stated, that was a bunch of crazies years past. Now, in your own case, you are a present day nut job.

And the pattern emerges, you are displacing your behavior traits. Have you seen a Christian counselor about your anger?
Maybe you should try a Rabbi or Taoist monk or some Yoga instructor.

Actually I don't read you fiction novel posts. They are far too lengthy and not based on fact or rationality.

 

[HaShev]

Once again, since I posted the NT verses you are calling them not factual or rational.
But thanks for admitting what we already knew, that you are merely trolling the forum trying to demonize people for your not being able to read or address their commentary.
I know I'm having a great day when all
you Luciferians can do is throw the typical responses regarding phrases like "hate and crazy" around trying to demonize the speaker to smokescreen the speach.
You're missing the phrase "drugs", or you'd have the Ad Hominem trifecta.
Yeah, we'll wait as you look up the word.

 

[PetriFB]

The Roman Catholic Church don't represent Biblical Christianity, because they have killed several millions people (crusades and so on), they have practiced inquisition and clergymen have very wide practiced pedophilia. The bloody deeds of Roman Catholic Church and disgusting sexual sins proves that they are not Jesus' disciples, but the servants of the evil one.

 

[Mudda]

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A lot of people died by following the teachings of Jesus. Including being eaten by lions.
Christianity enslaves women by making them second class citizens.
Churches want you to serve them your money.
The Inquisition, among others, tortured many over Christianity.
The Crusades, including the last one in Iraq under GW, persecutes and kills all the time.
Blinded tons through Shock and Awe, among other Crusades and the like.

Christ had nothing to do with that. You are proof that crazies exist.

So Christ had nothing to do with Christianity? LOLOLOLOLOL!
Thanks for the laugh!

 

[HaShev]

The Roman Catholic Church don't represent Biblical Christianity, because they have killed several millions people (crusades and so on), they have practiced inquisition and clergymen have very wide practiced pedophilia. The bloody deeds of Roman Catholic Church and disgusting sexual sins proves that they are not Jesus' disciples, but the servants of the evil one.

The NT and newly found missing portions of Mark and found gospels show Jesus sleeping with a young boy probably Lazarus therefore they are carrying on as Jesus disciples. Even the Judas Gospels writes of the apostles carrying on with deviant practices, probably why they made him the villain to dehumanize him so nobody would believe what he accounts.
Sources:
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas ofKerioth, According to this seeminglyauthentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.
Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

 

[GiveMeATicketToWork]

When we compare the deeds, the teachings and the thoughts of Muhammad and Jesus, so we can see that Muhammad was violent and Jesus loved all people sacrificing Himself for all people. The text is not a hate speech, not racism, and I don't accept mocking of Muslims or Muhammad. When I wrote this writing, my intention was not to mock anyone, but bring out that what kind of deeds Muhammad and Jesus did, and how they react to the people, and what they taught and thought.

More info: Jesus Bible Muhammad Quran study teaching revelation doctrine

I'm not a Muslim but Moses and David in the Old Testament were violent.

 

[HaShev]

When you come here in your singular real posting name I will share with you the answer to your comment about Moses and David. It's a waste of time if you are merely trolling. If you sincerely want to learn I will elaborate on the issue of our not whitewashing stories(whereby you don't learn from it), nor placing our ways within violent ancient times in comparison or judgement.

 

[OZman]

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52).

For a non literal interpretation:

GARMENTS (LOWER ASPECT) :—

Symbolic of opinions, prejudices, confining notions, narrowness of Ideas, habits of low thought, literalism, and the " higher critic ism " of scriptures.

These limitations of mind pertain to the lower mental plane, and enclose the ego In shells of mental matter, often very difficult and painful to get rid of. They have to be broken up by the advent of life and truth from the Spirit within.

" And he (blind Bartimseus), casting away his garment, sprang up, and came to Jesus." — MARK x. 60.

The aspiring mind rises and " casts off his garment " because he has, first, to make the effort to rise of his own accord, and stand (as it would

appear) ; and second, he must needs cast away his old prejudices and confining opinions, symbolised by the garment, before he can go to the Christ within.

" Proclus has it : The soul, on descend ing into the body, forsakes unity, ' and around her, from all sides, there grow multiform kinds of existence and manifold garments ; ' ' love of honour is the last garment of souls ' ; and when, in mount ing up, ' we lay aside our passions and garments which, in coming down, we had put on, we must also strip off that last garment, in order that having become (entirely) naked, we may establish our selves before God, having made our selves like to the divine life.' " — From HUOEL, Mystical Element, Vol. II. p. 98.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Jesus never beat Joe Frazier




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Or his many wives.

Muhammad sure did, though.

 

[September]

When we compare the deeds, the teachings and the thoughts of Muhammad and Jesus, so we can see that Muhammad was violent and Jesus loved all people sacrificing Himself for all people.

What about the actions of God?

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[HaShev]

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52).

For a non literal interpretation:

GARMENTS (LOWER ASPECT) :—

Symbolic of opinions, prejudices, confining notions, narrowness of Ideas, habits of low thought, literalism, and the " higher critic ism " of scriptures.

These limitations of mind pertain to the lower mental plane, and enclose the ego In shells of mental matter, often very difficult and painful to get rid of. They have to be broken up by the advent of life and truth from the Spirit within.

" And he (blind Bartimseus), casting away his garment, sprang up, and came to Jesus." — MARK x. 60.

The aspiring mind rises and " casts off his garment " because he has, first, to make the effort to rise of his own accord, and stand (as it would

appear) ; and second, he must needs cast away his old prejudices and confining opinions, symbolised by the garment, before he can go to the Christ within.

" Proclus has it : The soul, on descend ing into the body, forsakes unity, ' and around her, from all sides, there grow multiform kinds of existence and manifold garments ; ' ' love of honour is the last garment of souls ' ; and when, in mount ing up, ' we lay aside our passions and garments which, in coming down, we had put on, we must also strip off that last garment, in order that having become (entirely) naked, we may establish our selves before God, having made our selves like to the divine life.' " — From HUOEL, Mystical Element, Vol. II. p. 98.

Hi, thanks for adding your take on meaning of words and slang, but then Christians who understand the importance of Lexicons and study of usage of such terms would have to admit they butchered the interps.
Examples: I don't believe the following events happened, but if it was a real description the meaning would change using that eras usage of words.
"Walked on water"=edge of the water which we call wading through water.
"Come back from the dead (sheol-pit)"=
when they expelled you from the "kingdom" outside the walls of YeruShalem was the firey trash dump aka pit and they called you the dead as in being no more to them-to be remembered no more=dead. Some people were allowed to return from the dead and back into the community. Raised from being an outcasted to returning back to acceptance.
"Clouds"=gathering of priests
thus coming with or out of clouds is not silly superman flying through the sky, it's a vision of the ACTUAL Shiloh (son of man) coming out of the *Kohanim lineage* and with the Kohanim to the procession at the 3rd temple.
*Source: scrolls: lQS lX, ll which seems to be fragment omitted from 4QSe(4Q259)

 

[OZman]

"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52).

For a non literal interpretation:

GARMENTS (LOWER ASPECT) :—

Symbolic of opinions, prejudices, confining notions, narrowness of Ideas, habits of low thought, literalism, and the " higher critic ism " of scriptures.

These limitations of mind pertain to the lower mental plane, and enclose the ego In shells of mental matter, often very difficult and painful to get rid of. They have to be broken up by the advent of life and truth from the Spirit within.

" And he (blind Bartimseus), casting away his garment, sprang up, and came to Jesus." — MARK x. 60.

The aspiring mind rises and " casts off his garment " because he has, first, to make the effort to rise of his own accord, and stand (as it would

appear) ; and second, he must needs cast away his old prejudices and confining opinions, symbolised by the garment, before he can go to the Christ within.

" Proclus has it : The soul, on descend ing into the body, forsakes unity, ' and around her, from all sides, there grow multiform kinds of existence and manifold garments ; ' ' love of honour is the last garment of souls ' ; and when, in mount ing up, ' we lay aside our passions and garments which, in coming down, we had put on, we must also strip off that last garment, in order that having become (entirely) naked, we may establish our selves before God, having made our selves like to the divine life.' " — From HUOEL, Mystical Element, Vol. II. p. 98.

Hi, thanks for adding your take on meaning of words and slang, but then Christians who understand the importance of Lexicons and study of usage of such terms would have to admit they butchered the interps.
Examples: I don't believe the following events happened, but if it was a real description the meaning would change using that eras usage of words.
"Walked on water"=edge of the water which we call wading through water.
"Come back from the dead (sheol-pit)"=
when they expelled you from the "kingdom" outside the walls of YeruShalem was the firey trash dump aka pit and they called you the dead as in being no more to them-to be remembered no more=dead. Some people were allowed to return from the dead and back into the community. Raised from being an outcasted to returning back to acceptance.
"Clouds"=gathering of priests
thus coming with or out of clouds is not silly superman flying through the sky, it's a vision of the ACTUAL Shiloh (son of man) coming out of the *Kohanim lineage* and with the Kohanim to the procession at the 3rd temple.
*Source: scrolls: lQS lX, ll which seems to be fragment omitted from 4QSe(4Q259)

It is my understanding that the NT is a Neshamah teaching that has been adulterated by Geco/Roman hands.

 

[HaShev]

Yeah Rome didn't understand Hebrew or the Judaic concepts it was conveying.
Sometimes by design because slang was used during period of revolts, so Rome would not know they were being refered to.
But then this lacking exposes their charade many times including in Characters they claim are Jewish who do not even know their own language. Like Gender in Micah 5 can't be a town therefore Matthew using Micah 5 was not written by A Jew who would know proper gender and that 'Bethlehem Ephratah' was a person and lineage (thus says clan) and not town Of Bethlehem.
There is one thing to make the errors then there is a whole other evil to be pointed out the correction and continue teaching
the lie anyway.