The Lie of 9-11 and it's after effects

[EMH]

American airlines flight 77.

American Airlines Flight 77​

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Path of AAL77 from Dulles International Airport to the Pentagon, just outside of Washington, D.C.

American Airlines Flight 77 was a scheduled domestic transcontinental passenger flight from Dulles International Airport in Northern Virginia to Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles. The Boeing 757-200 aircraft serving the flight was hijacked by five al-Qaeda terrorists on the morning of September 11, 2001, as part of the September 11 attacks. The hijacked airliner was deliberately crashed into the Pentagon in Arlington County, Virginia, killing all 64 aboard and another 125 in the building.​

Flight 77 became airborne at 08:20 ET. Thirty-one minutes after takeoff, the attackers stormed the cockpit and forced the passengers and crew to the rear of the cabin, threatening the hostages but initially sparing all of them. Lead hijacker Hani Hanjour assumed control of the aircraft after having undergone extensive flight training as part of his preparation for the attack. Because Indianapolis Air Route Traffic Control was unaware of the hijackings of American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175, Flight 77 was initially wrongly treated as a presumed plane crash. Police services were dispatched to southwestern West Virginia, above which Flight 77 had vanished from radar. In the meantime, two people aboard discreetly made phone calls to family members and relayed information on the situation without the knowledge of their assailants.
Hanjour flew the airplane into the west side of the Pentagon at 09:37. Many people witnessed the impact, and news sources began reporting on the incident within minutes, and footage of the crash was recorded by a Pentagon parking gate security camera. The 757 severely damaged an area of the Pentagon and caused a large fire that took several days to extinguish. By 10:10, the damage inflicted by the aircraft and ignited jet fuel led to a localized collapse of the Pentagon's western flank, followed forty minutes later by another five stories of the structure. Flight 77 was the third of four passenger jets to be commandeered by terrorists that morning, and the last to reach a target intended by al-Qaeda. The hijacking was to be coordinated with that of United Airlines Flight 93, which was flown in the direction of Washington, D.C., the US capital. The terrorists on Flight 93 had their sights set on a federal government building not far from the Pentagon, but deliberately crashed the airplane in a Pennsylvania field when the passengers fought for control after being alerted to the previous suicide attacks, including Flight 77's.

Nobody believes a 757 can fit through that hole. Nobody believes a 757 can fly at 530mph with nose 8 feet above ground either...

 

[EMH]

After the Hearing, I've not been able to contact him, nor the AE911 Group.

They got the "Mt Sinai Treatment" just like Charlie Kirk...

 

[EMH]

I enlisted in 1970.

I never heard from Non-Coms, nor Officers, nor any Family member that Served, about their weapons being given to Israel.

What's Your "De-Classified Source of Data"?

And Hey,... This is getting off topic.

They won't say they were given to Israel. The Marines and Army vets who served in 'nam through 1968 will all tell you that they were promised new weapons that never arrived.

The CIA dossier unmasks where the arms went. The "Israel Lobby" pushed the JFK candidate, gave him extremely positive media coverage on TV. They wanted more arms sent to Israel. JFK did some research and gave them the same answer Eisenhower did, that there was no evidence Israel needed more weapons.


The entire thing

JFK
Gulf of Tonkin Hate Hoax
'nam "escalation"
US manufacturing new weapons for 'nam
those weapons "never arriving" in 'nam
Israel ready for 67 invasion land grab
Israel and LBJ both lie about Israel being attacked, and about starting the invasion LBJ "expected" because he scored the weapons for it
Then the reports came back IDF was exterminating the residents of Gaza.

We sent the USS Liberty to investigate that...

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[EMH]

What's Your "De-Classified Source of Data"?

I attended a USS Liberty event in San Diego in the late 1990s.

There were Army and Marine vets there. Nobody was confused at all. They were promised new weapons that never arrived.

 

[wist43]

If we reversed roles, and I said what you said, you would blast it with a cannon and hit it. I see much speculation above but no documented facts about 911.

I'm sure that you've been presented with boatloads of evidence and facts from LA RAM, EMH, PeterPilot, ranfunck, myself and everyone else under the sun - you just choose to play dumb and refuse to honestly consider any information outside of the FedGov's fictional account.

You're intellectually dishonest.

For those of us that have honestly considered "the official version" and rejected it on the basis of scientific facts - we don't all agree on all of the facts, but we do agree that the nonsense you believe and accept to be true is utter nonsense.

Debate and discussion amongst those of us who reject the official version, is healthy and fruitful in terms of moving us forward in our understanding of what happened, and how.

You on the other hand, are just stuck trying to defend the indefensible.

Science isn't science if you don't make a good faith effort to disprove your own theory. You refuse to even try.

 

[candycorn]

I'm sure that you've been presented with boatloads of evidence and facts from LA RAM, EMH, PeterPilot, ranfunck, myself and everyone else under the sun - you just choose to play dumb and refuse to honestly consider any information outside of the FedGov's fictional account.

Since you haven't pointed out one fact they got wrong (major or minor) and your allegations are easily rejected...I'm fine sticking with the 9/11 Commission Report. It must have been printed on Kevlar...so far it's bullet proof.

You're intellectually dishonest.

Pot meet kettle.

For those of us that have honestly considered

thanks for the chuckle.

"the official version" and rejected it on the basis of scientific facts

Present the facts please.

- we don't all agree on all of the facts, but we do agree that the nonsense you believe and accept to be true is utter nonsense.

So you guys don't agree on all facts? Facts are not to be agreed or or disagreed upon....scenarios and opinions are up for debate not facts. So what you just wrote is utter nonsense.

Debate and discussion amongst those of us who reject the official version, is healthy and fruitful in terms of moving us forward in our understanding of what happened, and how.

LOL.... you don't seem healthy or intelligent, and you understand nothing.

 

[PeterPilot]

A week or so ago I watched a thorough investigation of TWA 800 and understand why the center fuel tank was blamed. The report did not involve the navy being the cause.

The missile phenomena were examined as well as the cause being a bomb, the center fuel tank is the cause of the explosion.

This video will help you clear up your concerns. I recommend you shorten your time by looking at the final report starting at minute 36. If you want to watch it like it a movie, start at the beginning.

I'm a cynical bastard Robert, and I've been in GA for my entire adult life. No airlines ever. Crop dusting, airplanes and helicopters, air ambulance, charter and corporate aviation. I've been reading NTSB reports for my entire life, along with Aviation Week & Space Technology.

I understand what the facts show--it was an accidental shootdown (possibly intentional, but I doubt it) by USN. And then the cover-up, government's stock in trade.

Much has been written about what happened, but the government ALWAYS covers up its errors. I learned that in the US Army---CYA. Likely you know what that means.

 

[Robert W]

I'm a cynical bastard Robert, and I've been in GA for my entire adult life. No airlines ever. Crop dusting, airplanes and helicopters, air ambulance, charter and corporate aviation. I've been reading NTSB reports for my entire life, along with Aviation Week & Space Technology.

I understand what the facts show--it was an accidental shootdown (possibly intentional, but I doubt it) by USN. And then the cover-up, government's stock in trade.

Much has been written about what happened, but the government ALWAYS covers up its errors. I learned that in the US Army---CYA. Likely you know what that means.

Every possible cause was completely investigated including a possible missile explosion and all failed to explain the crash. Due to that crash, all 747s in the USA have had corrections made to the center fuel tanks.

 

[Robert W]

I'm sure that you've been presented with boatloads of evidence and facts from LA RAM, EMH, PeterPilot, ranfunck, myself and everyone else under the sun - you just choose to play dumb and refuse to honestly consider any information outside of the FedGov's fictional account.

You're intellectually dishonest.

For those of us that have honestly considered "the official version" and rejected it on the basis of scientific facts - we don't all agree on all of the facts, but we do agree that the nonsense you believe and accept to be true is utter nonsense.

Debate and discussion amongst those of us who reject the official version, is healthy and fruitful in terms of moving us forward in our understanding of what happened, and how.

You on the other hand, are just stuck trying to defend the indefensible.

Science isn't science if you don't make a good faith effort to disprove your own theory. You refuse to even try.

You are clinging to a fake group of opponents. Where is the flight 77 right now, for instance. Who would dare fire a cruise missile in DC at the Pentagon. This is not about me or even you or those you named. Cling like spiders to a false theory all day long. It really does not matter since experts figured all of that out.

 

[wist43]

You are clinging to a fake group of opponents. Where is the flight 77 right now, for instance. Who would dare fire a cruise missile in DC at the Pentagon. This is not about me or even you or those you named. Cling like spiders to a false theory all day long. It really does not matter since experts figured all of that out.

Because governments never lie, right?? They hire "experts" who would never lie, right??

Like I said, you're very naive.

 

[Robert W]

Because governments never lie, right?? They hire "experts" who would never lie, right??

Like I said, you're very naive.

One more time. What happened to Flight 77? If it did not hit the capitol, where is the airplane and passengers and crew?

 

[candycorn]

Because governments never lie, right?? They hire "experts" who would never lie, right??

Like I said, you're very naive.

You saw photos of the Pentagon on 9/11 with the light poles on the ground. There is no “lie” there.

How’d they get there if AA77 didn’t take them down?

 

[wist43]

One more time. What happened to Flight 77? If it did not hit the capitol, where is the airplane and passengers and crew?

This is not that complicated... they landed the planes somewhere - speculation favors Ohio - then killed everyone.

Duh!!

Didn't you learn anything from Operation Gladio?? They killed innocent civilians all the time.

 

[Robert W]

This is not that complicated... they landed the planes somewhere - speculation favors Ohio - then killed everyone.

Duh!!

Didn't you learn anything from Operation Gladio?? They killed innocent civilians all the time.

Why haven't witnesses to your story came forth?

 

[Robert W]

Because governments never lie, right?? They hire "experts" who would never lie, right??

Like I said, you're very naive.

Naive people believe your story.

 

[Robert W]

You saw photos of the Pentagon on 9/11 with the light poles on the ground. There is no “lie” there.

How’d they get there if AA77 didn’t take them down?

Corn, you ask great questions.

 

[candycorn]

This is not that complicated... they landed the planes somewhere - speculation favors Ohio - then killed everyone.

Duh!!

Didn't you learn anything from Operation Gladio?? They killed innocent civilians all the time.

Thats nice...

What took down the light poles outside of the Pentagon?

While you’re at it can you answer the following questions?

Who planted the DNA at four crash sites?

Who planted the airplane parts at 4 crash sites?

Who falsified radar tracking of four planes?

More importantly, why do you think they did all of this? Because if it was to terrify Americans intog giving up more rights, it would seem like not keeping it a secret would have been a much more terrifying thing to do other than a standard hijacking scenario.

 

[Soupnazi630]

70-30

Americans don't believe you, and the more you spazz and lie, the worse those numbers will get...

There is no evidence of those numbers and all americans disagree with you

 

[candycorn]

Thats nice...

What took down the light poles outside of the Pentagon?

While you’re at it can you answer the following questions?

Who planted the DNA at four crash sites?

Who planted the airplane parts at 4 crash sites?

Who falsified radar tracking of four planes?

More importantly, why do you think they did all of this? Because if it was to terrify Americans intog giving up more rights, it would seem like not keeping it a secret would have been a much more terrifying thing to do other than a standard hijacking scenario.

Looks like wist43 can’t hang with questions about his own version of events.

 

[EMH]

What took down the light poles outside of the Pentagon?

Google Search

Who planted the DNA at four crash sites?

Pretty funny, since you are a low end Mossad yourself, why you love PAM BONDI so much....

Who planted the airplane parts at 4 crash sites?

There was one plane the 767 cargo version CIA/Mossad drone that hit South Tower. There were no other planes. The original photos of the fire trucks at the Pentagon clearly show NO AIRPLANE PARTS and neither do the inside photos. PhotoSHOP only fools the self proclaimed sub humans, nobody else. No plane crashed in Shanksville, the Mayor was there, and that's his word.

Who falsified radar tracking of four planes?

You sick mass murdering treasonous Jew Supremacist Zionist Fascists think you are so smart. If you were, israel wouldn't be getting POUNDED by the hour right now....