The liberal march towards EXTREME fascism

[P@triot]

Wrong. Medicare, Medicaid, and ACA cost almost nothing.

They cost about $2 trillion per year along with Social Security:

You have to BUY into these programs and they are self funding mostly.

Wrong. No such thing exists.

There essentially is no welfare in the US.

There is about $2 trillion per year just at the federal level. Many trillions more at the state level.

Food stamps have to be purchased

What happens if someone has no money at all? None? How do they “purchase” the food stamps?

Social Security gets no money from the government

Well that’s true. It gets all of its money from tax payers. It can’t get money from “government” because government doesn’t produce anything.

 

[P@triot]

No matter how much Rigby5 (aka oreo) lies about it - we spend about $2 trillion per year unconstitutionally at the federal level on welfare handouts.

 

[Rigby5]

You can try your bullshit all you want but that math just doesn’t add up. If I put in $100 and “decades later” the government gives me back $103, where is the “surplus”?

Anyone capable of basic math understands that the government has a -$3.00 deficit at that point. You’re failing hard here hon.

Wrong.
Due to the size of the national debt, we are paying huge amounts of interest in order to not default on it.
When we have a Social Security surplus, meaning money paid in that does not have to be paid out for a long time, that money is used to pay down the national debt, thus avoiding interest charges. Those interest savings are from the "surplus".
What is surplus is anything taken in but not paid out in that year.
The assumption is that new pay ins will cover the pay outs later, when they come due.

 

[Rigby5]

Are you capable of posting even a single basic fact? Please note this is directly from the Social Security Administration government website:

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Wrong.
Welfare is any assistance, ranging from housing subsidies to food stamps.
Social Security does NOT cover anything except disability and ADC.
So Social Security is NOT welfare, and it really should not be covering ADC either.
Disability is ok because that is really a forced early retirement due to medical problems.

 

[Rigby5]

They cost about $2 trillion per year along with Social Security:

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Wrong. No such thing exists.

There is about $2 trillion per year just at the federal level. Many trillions more at the state level.

What happens if someone has no money at all? None? How do they “purchase” the food stamps?

Well that’s true. It gets all of its money from tax payers. It can’t get money from “government” because government doesn’t produce anything.

Wrong.
I have Medicare, and I have pay for it.
I know people who refused to pay for it, so then do not have it.
Medicare pretty much breaks even, so then costs tax payers pretty much nothing.

If you have no money, you can not purchase food stamps.

 

[P@triot]

Wrong.

When we have a Social Security surplus, meaning money paid in that does not have to be paid out for a long time

Your ignorance is truly astounding. The moment Social Security money is taken in, it is paid out to those who qualify. This has been the case since the time Social Security was passed in the 1930’s.

See, those who were the initial recipients of Social Security in the 1930’s never paid into it. Taxes were taken from the working (each week) and immediately paid out to the recipients (each week).

Social Security has never stocked your money away in vaults for decades and decades. That has simply never happened.

Stop being an asshole posting disinformation.

 

[P@triot]

So Social Security is NOT welfare, and it really should not be covering ADC either.

It’s right fucking there on the government’s Social Security website

 

[P@triot]

I have Medicare, and I have pay for it.

Wrong. Nobody pays for Medicaid. It’s for those who don’t have money. And you do not “pay” for Medicare either. You might have certain costs, but nowhere near the actual cost of Medicare.

 

[P@triot]

When we have a Social Security surplus, meaning money paid in that does not have to be paid out for a long time...

Wrong​

 

[P@triot]

Social Security does NOT cover anything except disability and ADC.

Wrong​

 

[P@triot]

I have Medicare, and I have pay for it.

Wrong​

 

[Rigby5]

No matter how much Rigby5 (aka oreo) lies about it - we spend about $2 trillion per year unconstitutionally at the federal level on welfare handouts.

Not true.

Clearly Health and Human Services is only $90 billion tops.

By discretionary budget then mean that social security and national debt payments are not included.
If you ever see social security or national deft on a budget chart, it is invalid.
The budget never included social security of the national debt, both of which are NOT discrectionary.

 

[P@triot]

The left has embraced fascism in its purest form. The assholes of You Tube took down her video despite the fact that it was just a simple explanation of her personal views on ethics and coerced vaccinations (she even promoted vaccines in general). The left is scared shitless of even benign speech.

Tearful ethics professor delivers emotional 'lesson' on vaccine mandates before being placed on leave | Blaze Media

An ethics professor in Canada gave what could be her final lesson at the university she has been employed at for the past 20 years. The lesson was regarding vaccine mandates. The professor's employer has implemented mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, which she believes is unethical. Dr. Julie...

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[P@triot]

Not true.

Almost $2 trillion per year on unconstitutional welfare…

 

[P@triot]

Not true.

Rigby5 has posted multiple propaganda infographics now claiming that defense makes up 57% of the nation budget.

This is easily debunked with a quick and simple Google search. Defense was meager 11% of the federal budget in 2020:

Furthermore, the national budget is $4 trillion. So her math doesn’t add up at all. If $718 billion is 57% of the federal budget, then the federal budget would be just around $1.25 trillion

 

[Rigby5]

Rigby5 has posted multiple propaganda infographics now claiming that defense makes up 57% of the nation budget.

This is easily debunked with a quick and simple Google search. Defense was meager 11% of the federal budget in 2020:
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Furthermore, the national budget is $4 trillion. So her math doesn’t add up at all. If $718 billion is 57% of the federal budget, then the federal budget would be just around $1.25 trillion

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Wrong.
When you calculate the federal budget, you are only supposed to include the discretionary items.
Mandatory items like SS and the past debt interest is not supposed to be included,
SS should not be included because it actually is usually a surplus and not a cost at all, and interest on the national debt is not optional.

It is actually much worse than that, because all past deft interest, and all future VA spending on health care and GIBill spending on education is actually defense spending as well.

 

[P@triot]

When you calculate the federal budget, you are only supposed to include the discretionary items.

Bwahahahaha!! Then why does the Office of Budget and Management include it? And why does Congress (who controls the purse strings) include it?

You continue to make shit up and I continue to expose you for the Russian or Chinese troll account that you are. You've absolutely been obliterated with basic facts in this thread, snowflake.

 

[P@triot]

SS should not be included because it actually is usually a surplus and not a cost at all...

There has literally never been a "surplus" in the history of Social Security

 

[Rigby5]

Bwahahahaha!! Then why does the Office of Budget and Management include it? And why does Congress (who controls the purse strings) include it?

You continue to make shit up and I continue to expose you for the Russian or Chinese troll account that you are. You've absolutely been obliterated with basic facts in this thread, snowflake.

They typically do not include it.
Only those attempting deliberate deception do include anything other than discretionary.

 

[Rigby5]

There has literally never been a "surplus" in the history of Social Security

Wrong.
There has almost always been a surplus.
It has only been a few years since 2015 when there was not a surplus.
Surplus being more money taken in than paid out.