The Left During Covid Violated All of Their "Principles": Shoutout to Citygator

[Votto]

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Trump's biggest mistake was trusting the "experts" like Fauci.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Give me a break. You are getting your panties in a wad because DURING A WORLD PANDEMIC the US government, led by Donald Trump, provided guidance on how to slow the spread of Covid. It was inconvenient, it was costly for business, and in the end over 2M people still died in excess of normal death patterns. That’s almost 1 out of every 100 people that died. Could have been worse.

Private citizen Rightwingers were never forced to take a vaccine. Never. Ever. A few folks in the military had to pretend to have a religious objections to science. That’s about it.

Donald Trump nearly died from it. He was front and center trying to downplay it for politics while funding Opeartion Warp Speed and getting vaccinated himself.

A pandemic that if you were able bodied (95% of the world population) you had a 99.975% of survivability, which democrats lied to us about, because it was all about stealing the 2020 election, where people could bundle votes, not have to show ID, kick out republican poll watchers while 10s of thousands of ballots all for Biden were run through the machines. Not going to happen again. Morons like you, watched with glee when Gavin Newscum closed the beaches on California, arresting anyone who was out having fun, while he Newscum was dining at the French Laundry with his friends, not masked up and not social distancing. You are a ******* dumbass.

 

[citygator]

Trump's biggest mistake was trusting the "experts" like Fauci.

Look it was unprecedented. I fault Trump for trying to play politics by doing one thing and saying another but generally the US, even under Trump, did the best it could to wade through it. Everyone has an opinion.

 

[dblack]

The "left" and the "right", at least in the guise of Ds and Rs, have no principles other than a desire for power.

 

[Votto]

Look it was unprecedented. I fault Trump for trying to play politics by doing one thing and saying another but generally the US, even under Trump, did the best it could to wade through it. Everyone has an opinion.

I remember all to well what went on.

I sat here watching the Left lambast Trump for trying to stop air travel from China to the US, calling him xenophobic. Then I remember Nancy Pelosi out in China town on camera telling the world that there was nothing to fear from China or Covid and that Trump was xenophobic for suggesting such a thing. But then when it got to the US and large numbers of people stared dying, all of a sudden there was not only a problem, but we needed a police state to contain it by requiring masks and vaccinations and you could not even question any of it on social media or get banned and labeled anti science. But first, they had to get rid of Trump. I remember all too well that Trump told the world about a vaccine that was coming right before the Presidential election as democrats proclaimed that he was lying. They said there was no vaccine in the works, and if there was, they would not take it if he was behind it at all. Then no more than a week after the election, out comes the vaccine Trump said was coming. Then all of a sudden, democrats latched onto the vaccine as their own as they blamed all the Covid deaths around the world specifically on Trump, telling people that if they did not take the vaccine, they could lose their jobs or not be able to get an education, etc.

Then people started to have bad reactions to the vaccine. I know, because I personally knew some of those people. And here they were, they were manipulated into taking the vaccine or face losing their job, and when they did, they had a bad reaction and had no legal recourse as they could not work. Some even died. Then when they went on social media to tell the world, the Biden administration made sure that social media platforms like Twitter censored them by taking down their posts and banning them, along with anyone who dared give credence to stories like the Hunter Biden laptop.

Imagine, losing your loved one because they were manipulated by corporate American and the government and having no legal recourse, and then have all your friends taken away to boot.

That my friends is the democrat party.

 

[citygator]

A pandemic that if you were able bodied (95% of the world population) you had a 99.975% of survivability, which democrats lied to us about, because it was all about stealing the 2020 election, where people could bundle votes, not have to show ID, kick out republican poll watchers while 10s of thousands of ballots all for Biden were run through the machines. Not going to happen again. Morons like you, watched with glee when Gavin Newscum closed the beaches on California, arresting anyone who was out having fun, while he Newscum was dining at the French Laundry with his friends, not masked up and not social distancing. You are a ******* dumbass.

The fact that you dont understand mortality rates means you probably dont have a great understanding of what happened.

Dec 19-Apr 20 it spread fast with people indoors and was killing 2-3k per day
July 20-Nov 20 it slowed down with lock downs and outdoor living
Nov 20-Apr 21 it really spiked with fewer lock downs killing 3-4k per day
May 21 Vaccine gets out and deaths never get near that high again.

A low rate on 300M kills lots of people. 2M to be exact.

No one stole the election in RED states with RED governors and RED legislatures. People blamed Trump for the bad economy and his ridiculousness and kicked him out.

 

[citygator]

I remember all to well what went on.

I sat here watching the Left lambast Trump for trying to stop air travel from China to the US, calling him xenophobic. Then I remember Nancy Pelosi out in China town on camera telling the world that there was nothing to fear from China or Covid and that Trump was xenophobic for suggesting such a thing. But then when it got to the US and large numbers of people stared dying, all of a sudden there was not only a problem, but we needed a police state to contain it by requiring masks and vaccinations and you could not even question any of it on social media or get banned and labeled anti science. But first, they had to get rid of Trump. I remember all too well that Trump told the world about a vaccine that was coming right before the Presidential election as democrats proclaimed that he was lying. They said there was no vaccine in the works, and if there was, they would not take it if he was behind it at all. Then no more than a week after the election, out comes the vaccine Trump said was coming. Then all of a sudden, democrats latched onto the vaccine as their own as they blamed all the Covid deaths around the world specifically on Trump, telling people that if they did not take the vaccine, they could lose their jobs or not be able to get an education, etc.

Then people started to have bad reactions to the vaccine. I know, because I personally knew some of those people. And here they were, they were manipulated into taking the vaccine or face losing their job, and when they did, they had a bad reaction and had no legal recourse as they could not work. Some even died. Then when they went on social media to tell the world, the Biden administration made sure that social media platforms like Twitter censored them by taking down their posts and banning them, along with anyone who dared give credence to stories like the Hunter Biden laptop.

Imagine, losing your loved one because they were manipulated by corporate American and the government and having no legal recourse, and then have all your friends taken away to boot.

That my friends is the democrat party.

Selective. That all happened under Trump dude. All of it.

• The flights from China were disorganized mess. They stopped China citizens but we had zillions of people coming in from China - you remember the pictures of jammed airports I am sure.
• I agree no one knew what to make at first - the dems were worried about racial blow back on Chinese Americans but the fact was the spread came from pockets of the world to pockets of our country and out from there.
• We never entered a police state. Businesses were forced to close sure, again, under Trump, as the experts were working out the risk that was clearly killing many people
• I get people were pissed about the inconvenience. I nearly lost the company I was in at the time. I didnt blame Trump or the Governors. We did the best we could.
• The fact right wingers got tired of caring about others doesnt surprise me. Masks and distancing was to keep fewer old and risky Americans from dying. It caused some inconvenience and that was too much inconvenience to help essentially strangers. Herman Cain found out the hard way that believing youre right isnt enough.
• The vaccines were safe and effective. The worst part of the right wingers was the utter conspiracy theories that came out of being tired of sacrificing for others. They needed a reason to come out and refuse to help others live, and that borne the conspriacy theories.

 

[August West]

Let's talk about the last three, community, respect, citizenship. And let's frame that with Covid and mask wearing, including the mandates. First, community. It is so telling why Republicans were all up in the air about masks. You don't wear a mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect other people. The unwillingness of Republicans to wear that mask shows no commitment to community whatsoever, just a commitment to self.

And then comes respect. Again, you wear the mask out of respect for other people. Again, Republicans have no respect for anyone other than themselves. Which brings us to citizenship. We have came a long way from ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. For Republicans it is all about what can our country make other people do and how can I benefit.

Republicans put their faith in Clorox and Listerine. Is that why more people died in the red states?

Study Finds Large Gap in Excess Deaths Along Partisan Lines After COVID-19 Vaccines Introduced

A team of Yale researchers has found that Republican voters in two U.S. states had more excess deaths than Democratic voters after vaccines for COVID-19 became

ysph.yale.edu

The uneven toll of the coronavirus pandemic

A new scientific paper out this week shows a larger increase in excess deaths among Republicans after the Covid vaccine became widely available.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Mashmont]

MAGA is based on one thing and one thing only. You want to feel “special”. You dont care about policies or moral foundations. You want to be “special”.

The whole right wing greivance industry is geared around telling you that you are special and that those who look or love differently are trying to destroy you. It’s a con. They are controlling your inadequacies and using it to get you to support the actions of billionaires.

Wealth envy is a century-old Marxist talking point. It's tiresome, and it's an excuse for laziness.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The fact that you dont understand mortality rates means you probably dont have a great understanding of what happened.

Dec 19-Apr 20 it spread fast with people indoors and was killing 2-3k per day
July 20-Nov 20 it slowed down with lock downs and outdoor living
Nov 20-Apr 21 it really spiked with fewer lock downs killing 3-4k per day
May 21 Vaccine gets out and deaths never get near that high again.

A low rate on 300M kills lots of people. 2M to be exact.

No one stole the election in RED states with RED governors and RED legislatures. People blamed Trump for the bad economy and his ridiculousness and kicked him out.

The only reason why people died was because Democrat Governors put infected people in with the elderly and infirm. But that was okay, since you hate old people who take social security. It was all to make President Trump look bad. But intelligent people knew better.

How COVID killed thousands in Michigan nursing homes, as Whitmer administration stood by

The Democratic-controlled state government has only recently released documents about the nursing home deaths in 2020, after stalling for years to protect the owners and Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

www.wsws.org

Justice Department Investigating Andrew Cuomo for Killing Thousands of Seniors - LifeNews.com

Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo issued the order in March 2020 that ultimately killed at least 15,000 nursing home residents. Many senior living centers were flooded with COVID patients thanks to Cuomo’s reckless order putting them in senior living facilities instead of other locations...

www.lifenews.com

 

[SweetSue92]

Give me a break. You are getting your panties in a wad because DURING A WORLD PANDEMIC the US government, led by Donald Trump, provided guidance on how to slow the spread of Covid. It was inconvenient, it was costly for business, and in the end over 2M people still died in excess of normal death patterns. That’s almost 1 out of every 100 people that died. Could have been worse.

Private citizen Rightwingers were never forced to take a vaccine. Never. Ever. A few folks in the military had to pretend to have a religious objections to science. That’s about it.

Donald Trump nearly died from it. He was front and center trying to downplay it for politics while funding Opeartion Warp Speed and getting vaccinated himself.

Both my kids were forced to take the vaccines to stay at the universities they were enrolled in. Even worse: my daughter was quarantined for 14 days for having had an "exposure" and was reported by a girl who didn't like her to the university "snitch line". The girl reported that our daughter had been seen in the library. She called me crying that day; I was LIVID. That was the one and only time I wrote either of my kids' universities as a parent; I was blisteringly mad and boy did they know it.

Now, tell me again how YOUR party is the part of freedom, etc. There is ALWAYS a reason to suspend "rights". People who truly value freedom just don't do that.

 

[SweetSue92]

You guys want to justify the utterly undemocratic actions by the GOP now as revenge porn for pandemic actions that literally Trump led.

Trump did not make the decision in my state to leave the bars open but not the garden centers in Walmart.

Gretchen Whitmer did that. One of yours

 

[SweetSue92]

MAGA is based on one thing and one thing only. You want to feel “special”. You dont care about policies or moral foundations. You want to be “special”.

The whole right wing greivance industry is geared around telling you that you are special and that those who look or love differently are trying to destroy you. It’s a con. They are controlling your inadequacies and using it to get you to support the actions of billionaires.

You're just wrong here. In fact, it's absolute projection. The vast majority of conservatives have real, rich lives full of family, God, work. It's YOUR side that makes politics their religion. Woke era anyone?

 

[SweetSue92]

Hey 1srAsshole. What are you doing here? My little fan club president. Sue started to get off track in the gas thread so we moved here. It was very kind not to further mess it up

Hahahah YOU BROUGHT IT UP

 

[SweetSue92]

Trump had a mask with HIS SEAL. That’s how much he was wearing a mask.

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Why is it always about Trump for you? How bad is your TDS?

After the first few weeks/months of this mess, the RED STATES began to open while your BLUE STATES remained closed. I mean in Feb of 22 I visited New Orleans and the Democrat gov required either a vaccine pass or a cert of clean health to enter every NO establishment. This was AFTER it was known the vaccines didn't prevent spreading!

Name me one conservative politician who was still advocating this insanity after the first few months....

 

[SweetSue92]

Let's talk about the last three, community, respect, citizenship. And let's frame that with Covid and mask wearing, including the mandates. First, community. It is so telling why Republicans were all up in the air about masks. You don't wear a mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect other people. The unwillingness of Republicans to wear that mask shows no commitment to community whatsoever, just a commitment to self.

And then comes respect. Again, you wear the mask out of respect for other people. Again, Republicans have no respect for anyone other than themselves. Which brings us to citizenship. We have came a long way from ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. For Republicans it is all about what can our country make other people do and how can I benefit.

Except the masks that were recommended do not, and never WERE, meant to prevent the spread of tiny virus particles. Surgical masks, hello? For surgery. To prevent globs of mucus from entering open wounds.

Look, we knew this before the Moral Panic you all loved so much.

Does "community" and "respect" force people to take such drastic measures when those measures are stupid and don't work?

Here, remember?

 

[SweetSue92]

Look it was unprecedented. I fault Trump for trying to play politics by doing one thing and saying another but generally the US, even under Trump, did the best it could to wade through it. Everyone has an opinion.

Again, this can account for ONLY the first few months.

YOUR people carried it on for much longer than anyone should have.

And some of us knew--and laughed at--the early masks made out of Aunt Kathy's old tablecloth fabric. Remember that? hahahah

 

[SweetSue92]

Republicans put their faith in Clorox and Listerine. Is that why more people died in the red states?

Study Finds Large Gap in Excess Deaths Along Partisan Lines After COVID-19 Vaccines Introduced

A team of Yale researchers has found that Republican voters in two U.S. states had more excess deaths than Democratic voters after vaccines for COVID-19 became

ysph.yale.edu

The uneven toll of the coronavirus pandemic

A new scientific paper out this week shows a larger increase in excess deaths among Republicans after the Covid vaccine became widely available.

www.nbcnews.com

They were metabolically unhealthy at bigger rates, most unfortunately. If you came into Covid already with obesity, heart issues, etc--you were not going to do well. Younger, healthier people never needed those vaccines, esp not KIDS.

Not getting the shots was one of the best decisions I ever made

 

[pknopp]

Trump, in full reversal, urges Americans to wear masks

The president long refused to don such protection against coronavirus, and just weeks ago mocked Joe Biden for doing so.

www.politico.com

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Except the masks that were recommended do not, and never WERE, meant to prevent the spread of tiny virus particles. Surgical masks, hello? For surgery. To prevent globs of mucus from entering open wounds.

Look, we knew this before the Moral Panic you all loved so much.

Does "community" and "respect" force people to take such drastic measures when those measures are stupid and don't work?

Here, remember?

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Only mask i know that worked on triggering dumbass democrats was this one. Was on an jet and wore it because i was FORCED to or be kicked off,