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not the first timeThere is no Donbas, just like there was no Confederacy. The people rooting for separation are Russian imports, not Ukrainian citizens living in that region. NATO is not recruiting ex-Warsaw Pact countries, those countries are begging to join NATO out of fear of an expansionist Russia run by Putin. Russia has been invading its peaceful neighbors since 2014, no one has attacked Russia or tried to annex its territory.
I’m not.So, Obama made a right thing then allowing Russia to seize Crimea and part of the Donbas. Why are you complaining?
Hey dummy, the t-shirt is just saying the Democrats are worse than Russians. Which is 100% true.
any comment on this ?
As well as the Baltic states, Hungary and Croatia, to name the few. But you seem to have no problems with that.Isn’t calling the other side “Nazis” the exact same thing Democrats do here?
Thing is, Ukraine does have a history of being friendly with the Nazis. Their national hero Bandera was a Nazi collaborator.
Are those other countries acting like Nazis, overthrowing their elected governments, or provoking wars?As well as the Baltic states, Hungary and Croatia, to name the few. But you seem to have no problems with that.
Read about Croatia in the early 90s. You will find much new for yourself.Are those other countries acting like Nazis, overthrowing their elected governments, or provoking wars?
A better question is, why did no one care about Ukraine’s sovereignty when O, Joe, and Nuland took it in 2014?So, Obama made a right thing then allowing Russia to seize Crimea and part of the Donbas. Why are you complaining?
I would put in into another perspective. They just supported one of the groups in internal civil conflict.A better question is, why did no one care about Ukraine’s sovereignty when O, Joe, and Nuland took it in 2014?
No.I would put in into another perspective. They just supported one of the groups in internal civil conflict.
The Euromaidan was caused by internal divisions, first and foremost. I don't exclude external involvement, of course. But this involvement put a seed in a cultivated soil.No.
They overthrew a democratically elected government, causing a number of deaths at the time and thousands of deaths in the Donbas over time. They did this because they wanted a government that pursued confrontational relations with Moscow, in the hopes a war would start to enrich their donors in the MIC and harm Russia in the hopes of overthrowing Putin.
Agreed. However had the US vocally opposed regime change rather than instigate and support it, it might not have happened. Leaving thousands of Ukrainians and Russians alive.The Euromaidan was caused by internal divisions, first and foremost. I don't exclude external involvement, of course. But this involvement put a seed in a cultivated soil.
The first phase of the Euromaidan happened in 2004, see the Orange revolution. According to Russian propaganda, it also was caused by foreign influence.
It wasn't possible, this conflict was inevitable. Half of the country opposed a union with Russia the Yanukovich administration switched to. As I said above, the Euromaidan was caused by internal divisions, first and foremost.Agreed. However had the US vocally opposed regime change rather than instigate and support it, it might not have happened. Leaving thousands of Ukrainians and Russians alive.
Maybe but again, without US support the coup likely doesn’t happen. The Ukrainian government is and has been terribly corrupt. It’s dependent on support from the west, like old Joe gave it when he was vp, to survive.It wasn't possible, this conflict was inevitable. Half of the country opposed a union with Russia the Yanukovich administration switched to. As I said above, the Euromaidan was caused by internal divisions, first and foremost.
Ukraine was politically divided. Central and Western parts mostly supporting the Western vector and Tymoshenko, Southern and Eastern parts supporting close ties with Russia and Yanukovych. In the run-off, a gap between the candidates was only 3% or so.Maybe but again, without US support the coup likely doesn’t happen. The Ukrainian government is and has been terribly corrupt. It’s dependent on support from the west, like old Joe gave it when he was vp, to survive.
Besides Yanukovich campaigned on good relations with Russia and won. So, your conclusion may be wrong.