The Killing Of The United States of America

[krichton]

Fact-checking misleading attacks on HR 1 voting rights bill

A Facebook post claims Democratic legislation is aimed at protecting the Washington establishment and is anti-American,

www.politifact.com

As usual politifact debunks the lies being told by republicans aka supporters of Putin.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Fact-checking misleading attacks on HR 1 voting rights bill

A Facebook post claims Democratic legislation is aimed at protecting the Washington establishment and is anti-American,

www.politifact.com

As usual politifact debunks the lies being told by republicans aka supporters of Putin.

As usual, you get told what you want to hear and consider that to be "proof" of something.

 

[bripat9643]

They probably would if they actually heard the evidence.

But the lawyers would not present the 'evidence' as they weren't alleging fraud. How come you don't get that?

You're right, they were arguing process, which makes it real hard to gain standing. It was the process that left the door wide open for fraud.

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It was lack of standing, which is lack of legal argument, lack of evidence, etc...

No case is simply denied by a judge without review.

The lawyers put forth their legal arguments and best supporting evidence in their legal briefs, the judge goes through the legal briefs and determines if the case has legal merit.

Those cases shot down were reviewed by the judges, before ruling against the Trump team of lawyers.

"Lack os standing" does not mean "lack of evidence" or "lack of legal argument," dingbat. Why do you even bother jumping in when you're such a dumbass? An example of a case that lacks standing is if I sued someone for copyright infringement, but I wasn't the author of the piece that was copied.

The fact that turds as dumb as you can vote is truly scary.

 

[bripat9643]

Fact-checking misleading attacks on HR 1 voting rights bill

A Facebook post claims Democratic legislation is aimed at protecting the Washington establishment and is anti-American,

www.politifact.com

As usual politifact debunks the lies being told by republicans aka supporters of Putin.

Politifact is a Democrat Reich propaganda organ.

 

[Dadoalex]

Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

The lies and corruption are on the left, not the right.

Cheating is not having people go to the polls like we've done for generations and voting. Cheating is automatically registering all people to vote whether they want to register or not. Going against states rights by forcing them to allow convicted felons to vote; not that this would be the first time the commies violated the Constitution. Wait until these registered voters get called for jury duty which is what happens when you are a registered voter. While you want this country to chose it's leaders by the Obama phone ladies of the country, real Americans are against that.

Yeah, here's the thing....

Those people you want to keep from voting...They are REAL AMERICANS.
Those people you would intimidate at the polls....They are REAL AMERICANS

Why not simply tell the truth. You know that in a free fair election Republicans have no chance. Why? Because they don't know how to govern and don't know why they should govern except that they are not THEM.

Govern what?
Maintain infrastructure.
Provide police protection and fire fighters.
Where does governing stop?

Your question is nonsensical. But, in response, how about at a woman's ****? How about we stop governing there?

 

[Dadoalex]

If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.

The Facts About H.R. 1: The “For the People Act of 2021”

www.heritage.org

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What SPECIFICALLY is it you don't like about HR-1?

Have you read the entire Bill?

Not a response to the question. I'm not the one complaining.

Seems you, like every Republican in the Senate couldn't be bothered with actually understanding what's in the bill and, instead, prefer to spread lies about the bill.

Was hilarious. When the reading was done there were no Republicans present so a motion was made to limit amendments to 3 hours. In essence Johnson's move ended up in him stepping in his own crap pile.

 

[Dadoalex]

Yeah, here's the thing....

Those people you want to keep from voting...They are REAL AMERICANS.
Those people you would intimidate at the polls....They are REAL AMERICANS

Why not simply tell the truth. You know that in a free fair election Republicans have no chance. Why? Because they don't know how to govern and don't know why they should govern except that they are not THEM.

Oh please with this don't know how to govern BS. People are flocking from California to Iowa and Texas, not the other way around. People are fleeing NY to Florida, not the other way around. Then when you people get to our states, you vote for the same people that ruined your state. Don't tell me who doesn't know how to govern.

I'm not for keeping anybody from voting. What I'm for is having to put forth an effort to vote. People who go out to vote feel it's important. It means they understand what's at stake for our country, what's involved, and have even the slightest clue on what the issues are. Sending ballots to people who don't have a clue is just the opposite. Let me put it another way:

Let's say that MLB decided to let the citizens of a city decide on the players for their baseball team. In my city, you had to demonstrate an acute knowledge of not only baseball, but of the team itself. You had to go downtown to vote on the players. In your city, anybody could vote on players: how cute they are, their race, their tattoo, and they vote by cutting out the ballot out of their newspaper and mail it in.

Now, who do you suppose will have a better baseball team, your city or mine?

Walgreens shutters 10 stores in San Francisco as residents point to rampant shoplifting

Pharmacy giant Walgreens has closed its 10th store in the San Francisco area, prompting residents to blame rampant shoplifting caused by the city's

www.washingtonexaminer.com

SERIOUSLY?
A bunch of racists ignorant fo both the sport and the players are going to select the team?
Say hello to the new Washington Generals!

As for people moving to TX, why not ask those who've survived their opinion on TX lack of governing?

 

[Dadoalex]

No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.

Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.

No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

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Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.

 

[danielpalos]

Fact-checking misleading attacks on HR 1 voting rights bill

A Facebook post claims Democratic legislation is aimed at protecting the Washington establishment and is anti-American,

www.politifact.com

As usual politifact debunks the lies being told by republicans aka supporters of Putin.

Politifact is a Democrat Reich propaganda organ.

Right wingers are worse. This is the Greatest of the Great for the Right Wing:

Trump lied more than 30,000 times in four years. No wonder we're still exhausted.

Washington Post fact checkers have released their final tally of presidential BS.

www.motherjones.com

 

[beautress]

Old Blue, thank you for your service, but your Democrat Party was once for America but are now against all things America but their own lies. And you have been misled by the leftist press who along with Pelosi-Schumer-Biden are determined to destroy America and the Constitutional republic sans any resemblance to the brotherly love that once brought us all together but no longer is. Please consider walking away from the communism and atheism pushed hard br,
Only good wishes to you and yours.

Thank you for the kind hello and the good wishes.

I'm not walking with communism. Would you like to buy some beads?

Oh, thanks, but I've no need, as I have found so many marbles all over USMB's hallowed floors of those Shallow Hal Dimmies have lost all theirs. Just be careful where you walk, doll, as some of them could be yours if you continue through the path of disaknowledgment of leftist failure to notice that we noticed their footshoot powergrabs in which they believe they will replace equalities of the Constitution for the common man with total mind control or death to their detractors.

You're welcome to this quarter century experience I've had with the bipolar Dimmies who always believe they're weeks away from burying the USA's founding document by some of the most blessed human beings who ever graced this new world. Sorry, Charlie, that you got thrown into the Dimmie Sea. Ta ta.

 

[Indeependent]

Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

The lies and corruption are on the left, not the right.

Cheating is not having people go to the polls like we've done for generations and voting. Cheating is automatically registering all people to vote whether they want to register or not. Going against states rights by forcing them to allow convicted felons to vote; not that this would be the first time the commies violated the Constitution. Wait until these registered voters get called for jury duty which is what happens when you are a registered voter. While you want this country to chose it's leaders by the Obama phone ladies of the country, real Americans are against that.

Yeah, here's the thing....

Those people you want to keep from voting...They are REAL AMERICANS.
Those people you would intimidate at the polls....They are REAL AMERICANS

Why not simply tell the truth. You know that in a free fair election Republicans have no chance. Why? Because they don't know how to govern and don't know why they should govern except that they are not THEM.

Govern what?
Maintain infrastructure.
Provide police protection and fire fighters.
Where does governing stop?

Your question is nonsensical. But, in response, how about at a woman's ****? How about we stop governing there?

Ad homenim...
You are a ProgBot.

 

[Indeependent]

If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.

The Facts About H.R. 1: The “For the People Act of 2021”

www.heritage.org

.

What SPECIFICALLY is it you don't like about HR-1?

Have you read the entire Bill?

Not a response to the question. I'm not the one complaining.

Seems you, like every Republican in the Senate couldn't be bothered with actually understanding what's in the bill and, instead, prefer to spread lies about the bill.

Was hilarious. When the reading was done there were no Republicans present so a motion was made to limit amendments to 3 hours. In essence Johnson's move ended up in him stepping in his own crap pile.

I don’t remember ever posting that politicians do anything other than what their contributors want.
I do remember ProgBots here being thrilled about a Bill they never read.
Have you read the Bill?

 

[OKTexas]

Tell me clyde, why do you commies run to 15-20 courts when you want to make a challenge? It's never just one and usually on the east or west coasts. Multiple plaintiffs, multiple attorneys.

Why don't you ask Trump? He's an expert at running to court. Unfortunately, he's also a loser.

Off topic deflection duly noted and dismissed.

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[OKTexas]

If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.

The Facts About H.R. 1: The “For the People Act of 2021”

www.heritage.org

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Well, if that's what the Heritage Foundation has to say about the bill, passage cannot come soon enough. It will be a boon for average Americans.


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Don't think it has a chance in the senate. Which is the best thing that can happen. Of course you commies always thought federalism is nothing but a road block to your tyranny. What you don't realize that little peons like you will be no better off than the rest of us.

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[Biff_Poindexter]

If the Democrats are allowed to pass and implement this bill, you will have two choices, accept the loss of everything this country has ever stood for, or prepare for the second American Revolution.

This is the most comprehensive explanation of what's in HR-1 that I've seen. Please read the complete report before commenting. Thanks in advance.

One thing Democrats and Republicans both understand: The Democrats have no chance at winning in a fair and traditional election system the way our founders designed. With Covid they discovered a way to get the more stupid and politically ignorant to vote; more Obama phone and Obama money ladies. Of course they are going to try and make their plot mandatory in all states.

Bawahahahahahahahahahah

The self projection of you goofy ass Republicans is astounding....


Conservatives have been against high voter turn out for 40 years....and they make it no secret...go gaslight someone else with that bullshit...

 

[Care4all]

They probably would if they actually heard the evidence.

But the lawyers would not present the 'evidence' as they weren't alleging fraud. How come you don't get that?

You're right, they were arguing process, which makes it real hard to gain standing. It was the process that left the door wide open for fraud.

.

It was lack of standing, which is lack of legal argument, lack of evidence, etc...

No case is simply denied by a judge without review.

The lawyers put forth their legal arguments and best supporting evidence in their legal briefs, the judge goes through the legal briefs and determines if the case has legal merit.

Those cases shot down were reviewed by the judges, before ruling against the Trump team of lawyers.

"Lack os standing" does not mean "lack of evidence" or "lack of legal argument," dingbat. Why do you even bother jumping in when you're such a dumbass? An example of a case that lacks standing is if I sued someone for copyright infringement, but I wasn't the author of the piece that was copied.

The fact that turds as dumb as you can vote is truly scary.

Lack of standing, means the lawyers have not presented a case for suing within their legal briefs, for a lawsuit by their client or clients....

If they do not provide evidence of how their client or entity of whom the lawyers represent, was potentially harmed by some action or occurrence in their legal briefs in their lawsuit, the lawsuit is dismissed.

 

[OKTexas]

And those amendments exist, why? Oh right, the States agreed to them. Perhaps your mommy can explain the difference in congressional dictates and constitutional amendments that are ratified by the States.

So the states agreed that elections are federally regulated... that's the point.

Again, if you guys spent half the time trying to get people to vote for you that you spend trying to prevent them from voting, you might make some progress.

Did they. Exactly when they agree to a top down, one size fits all take over of all elections, by 271 commies?

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[OKTexas]

They probably would if they actually heard the evidence.

But the lawyers would not present the 'evidence' as they weren't alleging fraud. How come you don't get that?

You're right, they were arguing process, which makes it real hard to gain standing. It was the process that left the door wide open for fraud.

.

It was lack of standing, which is lack of legal argument, lack of evidence, etc...

No case is simply denied by a judge without review.

The lawyers put forth their legal arguments and best supporting evidence in their legal briefs, the judge goes through the legal briefs and determines if the case has legal merit.

Those cases shot down were reviewed by the judges, before ruling against the Trump team of lawyers.

Feel free to keep believing that.

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[OKTexas]

Fact-checking misleading attacks on HR 1 voting rights bill

A Facebook post claims Democratic legislation is aimed at protecting the Washington establishment and is anti-American,

www.politifact.com

As usual politifact debunks the lies being told by republicans aka supporters of Putin.

Poor little dumb ass commie. This thread has nothing to do with a facebook post.

.

 

[OKTexas]

No, your denial is simply a lie.
What you don't like about voting by mail is that your ability to do your traditional voter suppression activities won't work.
Move the polling spots...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Not enough working polling machines...no problem already mailed in the ballot;
Fake cops at polling places...no problem already mailed in the ballot;

So now your leaders are having to come up with more creative strategies than your Neanderthal tactics of the past.

BUT...You've pissed them off
Your stuff didn't work in 2018
Didn't work in 2020
Won't work in the future.

Stacy and AOC will see to that.

I know they will, and so will Piglosi and Whorris after they pass this voting bill. I have no idea why you people didn't leave this country and move to North Korea or Cuba where their government and society is more to your liking. We had a great country until liberalism ruined it for us. Now they are trying to fix it so Republicans can never have power again. When any country has a single-party government, tyranny takes place.

Now we will quickly slip into Socialism, and then Communism which are just about the same thing. The Great Experiment is ending, and it's ending because of people like you who support the Communists.

Thanks for admitting that Republicans can't win without cheating.

Isn't it too bad Republicans forgot how to run on policy and issues rather than on lies and corruption?

Indeed.

In the recent SCOTUS case, the lawyer for the Arizona Republicans attempting to pass draconian anti-voter laws said as much. They can't win on ideas so they need to change the rules to favor them.

That means disenfranchising voters.

Disgusting.

If "we the people" are to mean anything at all anymore, we need this bill.

No that means that ballots aren't sent to ineligible voters, many of whom no longer reside in the State.

.

Ballots are sent to LEGALLY REGISTERED voters at their LEGALLY REGISTERED address.

Claims that people voted illegally are specious at best and outright lies for the most part.

Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation

Explore a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. The database is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed.

www.heritage.org

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