The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[daws101]

I disagree....and a bolt action rifle used by the best marksman ever could not have gotten off the shots I heard and it was more than three. Not only that, the snipers synchronized their shots.

Total bullshit , it's been proven in many tests that those shot were made by a bolt action rifle gsr test s show the Oswald's rifle had been fired.

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

 

[daws101]

Total bullshit , it's been proven in many tests that those shot were made by a bolt action rifle gsr test s show the Oswald's rifle had been fired.

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

yes there are dense folks like the poster in this thread, but a considerable percentage of Americans have never believed the government's story (really lies) about the assassination.

Why so many Americans believe Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories

 

[gipper]

Total bullshit , it's been proven in many tests that those shot were made by a bolt action rifle gsr test s show the Oswald's rifle had been fired.

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Only a foolish statist would continue to believe the government's story. It is as if you have not bothered to consider the THOUSANDS of inconsistencies.

What is the statist's position on all the people with ties to the murder, who were mysteriously murdered after JKF was killed?

 

[Dale Smith]

Total bullshit , it's been proven in many tests that those shot were made by a bolt action rifle gsr test s show the Oswald's rifle had been fired.

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

 

[gipper]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

Yeah!!! LOL!!!

It sure is magical. It can somehow make turns in mid air and be made to enter his head from the rear, yet it came from the front...

Its MAGIC...and dummies believe in magic.

 

[Dale Smith]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Only a foolish statist would continue to believe the government's story. It is as if you have not bothered to consider the THOUSANDS of inconsistencies.

What is the statist's position on all the people with ties to the murder, who were mysteriously murdered after JKF was killed?

Even some of the major players that were being called in by Garrison's committee ended up dead. They will definitely kill their own to save their hides. The ones that were killed that could contradict the findings of the Warren Commission? They kept dying under mysterious circumstances......I'm sure it was just a coinkydink.

 

[daws101]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Only a foolish statist would continue to believe the government's story. It is as if you have not bothered to consider the THOUSANDS of inconsistencies.

What is the statist's position on all the people with ties to the murder, who were mysteriously murdered after JKF was killed?

Every event ever has thousands if inconsistencies and oddities.
This event is no different.
As to the so called murders, there is no evidence of an organized effort to pull them off .
It like most all of the myth surrounding the JFK assassination is wishful thinking.

 

[daws101]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

The magic bullet theory was debunked years ago and not by Crapspiracy theorists.

 

[Freewill]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Only a foolish statist would continue to believe the government's story. It is as if you have not bothered to consider the THOUSANDS of inconsistencies.

What is the statist's position on all the people with ties to the murder, who were mysteriously murdered after JKF was killed?

To answer your last question, there is not particularly unusual about the deaths. And if you think there is then why were so many others with the same stories left alive?

Think about this. If I said what are the odds of a named 15 people being killed out of a group of people, however large. The probability would be very low. (odds against) But if I said what is the odd of 15 people dying from that group then the odds are far less.

Also consider that most of those on the list had already made their statements there was really no reason to kill them.

Add to that, if you kill one person to eliminate a threat then it takes at least one person to do the killing if not more. So the more that are killed the bigger the risk not the smaller.

 

[Freewill]

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

 

[Dale Smith]

Oswald never fired a single shot. Witnesses have him down stairs getting a coke. The shots came from surrounding buildings and from the grassy knoll with what I believe was the kill shot fired from the storm drain by Jack Lawrence after Greer got the signal from the umbrella welding agent instructing him to stop. The Zapruder tape has been altered and they did a shitty job of it.

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

 

[Freewill]

So I watched about 1 hour of the video provided. I will say it was well done. That alone does not make it true.

They say 8 shooters but it is pretty well established that there were only 3 shots. If you want to count the shot that hit the curb then there is only one more. They have audio of the 3 shots.

But you were/are claiming that the driver shot Kennedy. So what is it? 8 shooters that raise the possibility of detection 8 fold? Seriously there would need to be too many people in on it to every keep it secret this long.

Now if the conspiracy theorists wanted to say that there was one expert rifleman in the SBD and he shot Kennedy and Oswald was to take the fall that seems more believable. But even at that it does not explain why Oswald fled the scene and killed Tippets. Yeah lots of things can be speculated as to why he killed Tippets but all we really know for sure is he did.

For the theory that the video puts forth, too many people would be involved, all the way up to and including the Kennedy justice department.

I disagree....and a bolt action rifle used by the best marksman ever could not have gotten off the shots I heard and it was more than three. Not only that, the snipers synchronized their shots.

Total bullshit , it's been proven in many tests that those shot were made by a bolt action rifle gsr test s show the Oswald's rifle had been fired.

But Oswald never fired a gun that day, which is why he had to be murdered.

The killing shot clearly came from the front.

Bullshit got a link?

Damn....there are numerous sources showing he never fired a gun that day...asking for proof only proves you are uninformed.

Asking people to prove your point is disingenuous.

How can someone know that they didn't fire a gun? In 1963 there was not reliable test. But a paraffin test was run on Oswald and his hands proved positive but his cheek did not. We can argue with the experts that say this is to be expected. But think, if it is going to be said that a neg for the cheek means he didn't fire a gun that day. then what does two positives tell us?

 

[Freewill]

Yep...imagine you have just blown the president's head off in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses....and you merrily stroll into the lunchroom (actually he had to run the length of the sixth floor and down several flights to be found by the cop relaxing with a coke in the lunchroom)...you make no effort to escape...you leisurely walk out of the TBD and stand at a bus stop, but then take a cab home....then somehow you magically kill a cop in broad daylight, then go to the theater, where you are apprehended. Then a couple days later you are murdered in the most heavily guarded building in the world, by a gunman with shaded ties who magically walks right up to you and he shoots you on national TV.

Only an idiot would believe the government's version of events.

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

 

[gipper]

No shit.....move along folks....nothing to see here=. People really are fucking dense....it staggers the mind.

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

 

[Freewill]

You Dale are an excellent example of of it.

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

 

[gipper]

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

When shot from the rear, a piece of your skull does not end up behind you. Your head does not fall backwards when shot from the rear.

 

[Freewill]

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

When shot from the rear, a piece of your skull does not end up behind you. Your head does not fall backwards when shot from the rear.

It can and it can. Have you ever shot anything?

 

[Dale Smith]

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

Came at angle from someone shooting on the right side of the road. More than likely it was a shot fired from the storm drain. It certainly wasn't fired from the book depository building. The shooting was nothing to write home about. The conspirators had put together an all-star sniper team to take him out but the kill shot was fired by some young kid that got a point blank shot at Kennedy only after Greer stopped the car to make it easier. Hell, they have clips showing the S.S being told to stand down and they act like "WTF?". Seriously, anyone that still believes the official story after all these years do so because it hurts too bad to think our "gubermint" would do this to our president. We know that the mafia contributed some of the gunmen with the CIA providing the rest. Frank Sturgis, E Howard Hunt and G Gordon Liddy were involved and ironically they were the ones that were arrested in connection with Watergate . Seems that Nixon was afraid information was being hidden in the DNC headquarters and was gonna be sprung on him before the election against McGovern.

 

[Dale Smith]

Magic bullet!!! That's the ticket!!!!!

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

"Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? "

Yep, they had look outs (mostly Cubans) with radios to give the word when to shoot so they could sync up.

 

[Freewill]

There was no magic bullet.

So you believe that Oswald acted alone???? Really????

Until someone shows me there were more then three shots then yes, I believe Oswald was capable of making the shots and did. He really didn't do all the well either. Shot three times at a relatively close target and completely missed once.

Except that the kill shot came from the front.

Do you think Oswald had the ability to be in two places at once?

Actually no, the kill shot did not come from the front. Look at the film of the final shot. The blood splatter goes from rear to front just as would be expected from a shot from the rear. All recreations, other than conspiracy theory recreations show that the bullets came from the rear. Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? Obviously watching the film there were only two shots shown. So were did the other shots go? Were they really that bad of shots?

"Do you really think that 8 shooters could time their shots to be perfectly aligned? "

Yep, they had look outs (mostly Cubans) with radios to give the word when to shoot so they could sync up.

Really? Where did the other bullets go and why isn't any shooting you talk about on the Zapruder film?