The issue is NOT whether both sides were violent.......

[Slyhunter]

Hint, fool. Most of us on the Right don't "support" White Nationalists.

This was my question.......ANSWER IT without hiding behind the flag.

HOW many of the skin heads and Nazis that you seem to want to protect, died or were injured, versus the anti rally people????

Red herring.

 

[nat4900]

Red herring.

,,,,and here you are without a "rod".....LOL

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

Hint, fool. Most of us on the Right don't "support" White Nationalists.

This was my question.......ANSWER IT without hiding behind the flag.

HOW many of the skin heads and Nazis that you seem to want to protect, died or were injured, versus the anti rally people????

One counter protester died as the result of one, count 'em, one, nut job, and you don't know how many protesters were injured.. You trying to equate the nut bar with all of them is no different than when many on the Right blamed the whole Left-wing protest violence on all of them when in truth it was caused by a handful of idiots. And by the way, how many non or counter protesters on the Right were assaulted/injured during many of the Left's protests of Trump?

CNN and the Left are blame the protesters for a helicopter crash that killed two police officers. I find that a reach, and honestly, ridiculous.

You're doing nothing but trying to change the narrative since you have had your ass handed to you six ways to Sunday. Typical Left-wing ploy, "If you're losing, change the subject".

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

Red herring.

,,,,and here you are without a "rod".....LOL

Do I sense Penis Envy?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Right wingers on here have found a "life-line" in excusing the orange clown's statements that there is an alt-Left and that these folks (antifa) are just as bad as the Nazis, white supremacists and KKK members......................and its all BULLSHIT.

Most of us do not condone violence but acknowledge that it exists and sometimes even necessary; heck, we were a bit violent ourselves when we chose to fight Nazism in WWII, were we not?

The issue is the IDEOLOGY of one group versus the other.....and ALL of us need to come to terms with the fact that if you "think" that the ideology of racists is just as worthwhile as those AGAINST racism, then you have better defined yourself.

Trump is undoubtedly a closeted-racist based on his lifelong record of business dealings with minority groups, and certainly we cannot simply shrug off how racist groups seem to have a close affinity for Trump's views and statements. .

The ANTIFA terrorists are every bit as bad as the Nazis, as you know. You Khmer rouge scum are violent and evil.

 

[Conservative65]

The issue is about violence. What you've done is condone it for your ideology.

Again.....for the idiots within the right wing........HOW many of the skin heads and Nazis that you seem to want to protect, died or were injured, versus the anti rally people????

Please list those name......or........have an enema.

You're so simple minded that you only want to speak about one incident. It's about any incident. Pay attention retard.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Thanks for the pictures of things that are protected by our Constitution.

 

[Oldstyle]

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All of those pictures are great, Hutch except what do they really prove? Has anyone physically attacked an NFL player for kneeling during the national anthem? Has anyone gone to a pro choice rally with clubs, tear gas and home made flame throwers to break up the crowd? Have Starbucks been fire bombed?

None of that has happened because conservatives don't use violence to silence their opposition the way that liberals do.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Right wingers on here have found a "life-line" in excusing the orange clown's statements that there is an alt-Left and that these folks (antifa) are just as bad as the Nazis, white supremacists and KKK members......................and its all BULLSHIT.

Most of us do not condone violence but acknowledge that it exists and sometimes even necessary; heck, we were a bit violent ourselves when we chose to fight Nazism in WWII, were we not?

The issue is the IDEOLOGY of one group versus the other.....and ALL of us need to come to terms with the fact that if you "think" that the ideology of racists is just as worthwhile as those AGAINST racism, then you have better defined yourself.

Trump is undoubtedly a closeted-racist based on his lifelong record of business dealings with minority groups, and certainly we cannot simply shrug off how racist groups seem to have a close affinity for Trump's views and statements. .

I hate to tell you this but everyone has the right to free speech even those whose speech offends you.

The blame and ALL the blame is on ALL people who resorted to violence regardless of their reasons for being there

 

[nat4900]

Has anyone gone to a pro choice rally with clubs, tear gas and home made flame throwers to break up the crowd?

perhaps not......BUT

Between 1973, when the Supreme Court decided abortion should be legal throughout the United States, and 2003, abortion providers have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

 

[Oldstyle]

Has anyone gone to a pro choice rally with clubs, tear gas and home made flame throwers to break up the crowd?

perhaps not......BUT

Between 1973, when the Supreme Court decided abortion should be legal throughout the United States, and 2003, abortion providers have been the targets of more than 300 acts of extreme violence, including arson, bombings, murders and butyric acid attacks.

I'll be the first to admit that there are some nut cases out there that think the killing of babies makes those who carry out those deaths worthy of death themselves. I'm actually a conservative who's pro-choice. My point remains the same however, Nat...right now...it's liberals that use violence to silence the opposition...not conservatives. It's happening on college campuses...it's happening in the streets.

 

[Humorme]

Right wingers on here have found a "life-line" in excusing the orange clown's statements that there is an alt-Left and that these folks (antifa) are just as bad as the Nazis, white supremacists and KKK members......................and its all BULLSHIT.

Most of us do not condone violence but acknowledge that it exists and sometimes even necessary; heck, we were a bit violent ourselves when we chose to fight Nazism in WWII, were we not?

The issue is the IDEOLOGY of one group versus the other.....and ALL of us need to come to terms with the fact that if you "think" that the ideology of racists is just as worthwhile as those AGAINST racism, then you have better defined yourself.

Trump is undoubtedly a closeted-racist based on his lifelong record of business dealings with minority groups, and certainly we cannot simply shrug off how racist groups seem to have a close affinity for Trump's views and statements. .

There are far too many posts for me to read and evaluate before responding to the OP. This is my view:

I care deeply about my culture, heritage, history and destiny. Race plays a role in that. Having said that, the neo - nazi solutions and approach that the MSM hones in on places a bad light on those people who care about the issues, but do not endorse nor support the solutions the nazis have.

Antifa is guiding the masses despite the attempts to say it's bullshit. If not for Antifa forces, there would have been no controversy to report. And the politicians are lining up because they are saying the same thing everyone else is: You either support Antifa or the racists.

You cannot force me to join either side and both sides are going to swear and be damned that I belong to the other side. The reality is, I don't.

As of today, most of the white racialist type websites have been shut down. I discovered that doing research for one of these threads because until Friday night on tv, I'd never seen nor heard from any of the leadership from either side. Even after hearing them, neither represent people I'd want to break bread with.

There is more to American culture, heritage, history, and destiny than the confrontational approach by people who have no interest in our Constitutional Republic.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

The issue is about violence. What you've done is condone it for your ideology.

Again.....for the idiots within the right wing........HOW many of the skin heads and Nazis that you seem to want to protect, died or were injured, versus the anti rally people????

Please list those name......or........have an enema.

Here's the thing: In terms of the massive alt right death count of 1, what you've got here is a guy at a white supremacist rally who is obviously someone who sympathizes with the ideologies expressed by such groups, but what I want to know is which group he was officially representing. As of yet, I haven't heard anyone even make an attempt to tie him materially to any particular activist group. Nevertheless, you're telling us that this one murder is the shared responsibility of the entire alt right.

Recently, Micah Brown sniped out 5 police officers in Dallas during a Black Lives Matter rally. He had no official affiliation with the group, but was simply a sympathizer with the ideology they espouse, and because of a lack of an official affiliation, we've been told this entire time that you can't hold the entire BLM movement responsible for the actions of one crazed dipshit. Fine, but let's be consistent.

If we're going to apply the standard that the alt right is responsible for the violence of one sympathizer, then Black Lives Matter, according to that same standard of guilt by association, has 5 deaths on their hands. If 1 death by the hand of a sympathizer means a movement should be violently accosted in the streets whenever they try to speak, then how do we handle a group whose sympathizers have murdered 5 times as many? Open fire into crowds at the first mention of Pigs in a Blanket? Seems only fair.

Or, maybe we can stop using the actions of the most extreme among us to paint everyone with whom we disagree so that we can justify murdering our political opponents. Maybe we can go back to agreeing to try and talk shit out before we put on masks and start the blood letting.