The_Halfmoon
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This is a very real and ever-growing threat in the middle east which nobody seems to really focus on at all.
We consistently talk about Israel and the Muslims, and yes, from time to time there is talk about Arab (particularly Gulf Arab) worries over a nuclear Iran. But the threat of a Sunni/Shi'ite conflict divided along ethnic lines is by far the most logical outcome of the US leaving the middle east.
Iran has imperial ambitions. VERY serious imperial ambitions in the Gulf region. It has developed proxies in Lebanon, Palestine, Somalia, you name it. It also dominates much of Iraq since the US invasion. The Arabs are calling this "The Safavi Plan" (after the dynasty which revived Iranian nationhood and made Shi'ite Islam the official religion of Iran. Here is a text from an Iraqi Shi'ite Sheik (taken from a video which I will also post):
"The Iranians Have a Plan"
Sheikh Kazem Al-'Unizan: "The Iranians have a plan, and today it extends to Somalia, to the straits of Bab Al-Mandab, to Yemen, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, and even to the kingdom of Jordan - they consider Jordan to be a great enemy.
"In Lebanon today, national unity is being torn to pieces, and the reason for that is Iranian intelligence. I am not talking about Iranian religious authorities or politicians. I'm talking about Iranian intelligence agencies and the ill-omened Al-Quds Corps, which want to destroy Arab unity.
"Until now, the Arabs have been incapable of dealing with this attack, because Iran has great capabilities, which it has used in its Safavid plan [the Safavid dynasty ruled Iran between 1501 and 1722, and declared Twelver Shi'a as the religion of the state]. Iran has extended...
"In Africa... I am a Shi'ite - a sheikh of a Shi'ite tribe. In the past, there was not a single Shi'ite in Africa. Now, there are two million Shi'ites in Senegal alone, in Somalia - half a million Shi'ites, in Sudan - two million Shi'ites, in Egypt - two million Shi'ites.
[...]
"The [Sunni-Shi'ite] strife was fueled by the American occupation, and was carried out by the Iranian occupation. As for the tombs [sacred to Shi'ites] - the Sunnis in Iraq have always been faithful servants of Imams Hassan Al-Askari and Ali Al-Hadi. How could any Iraqi, whether Shi'ite or Sunni, believe that the Sunnis of Samarra destroyed these tombs? These tombs were destroyed by mercenaries of the evil neighbor - Iran."
"The Great Shi'ite Religious Authority, the Martyr Muhammad Baqer Al-Hakim... Was Assassinated By an Iranian Conspiracy"
"Even the assassination of the great Shi'ite religious authority, the martyr Muhammad Baqer Al-Hakim... He was one of their own, but because he did not implement Iran's agenda, they sent someone to kill him. When this man entered Iraq, he spoke at the main square - and I was present there myself - and he said: 'May Allah forgive the past. The Ba'thists are our sons. We forgive Ba'thists who did wrong. We are willing to accept whoever wants to join us.' The [Iranians] said to him: 'We did not appoint you so you could say that the Ba'thists are our sons. We appointed you so you'd kill the officers of the Iraqi army, the commanders of the air force, and all the tribal leaders and other personalities.' The man was assassinated by an Iranian conspiracy. [...]"
"I Asked The Head Of The [Somali] Islamic Courts Union... 'Who Supports You?'... He Said... 'Iran Supports Us, Via Hizbullah'"
"I asked the head of the [Somali] Islamic Courts Union, whom I met in Libya: 'Who supports you?' I expected him to tell me it was Saudi Arabia, but he said: 'No, my brother. Iran supports us, via Hizbullah.' In this case, Iran supports the leader of a Salafi movement in the Horn of Africa.
"What interest does Iran have in supporting Sunni Salafism? This means Iran has a plan. What interest does Iran have in supporting Hamas and the Islamic Jihad? These are Sunni organizations. Iran's agenda is to carry out its great national plan, and it harbors deep hatred towards Arab Shi'ites who follow Imam Al-Sadeq.
"I have a simple way of proving it. When the Iranian pilgrims come to Karbala... I came here from Iraq only five days ago... Iranian pilgrims visit the graves of Hussein and his brother Al-Abbas in holy Karbala. It would have been more fitting for these pilgrims to visit the tomb of the father of Hussein and Al-Abbas - Ali bin Abu Talib, in Najaf. They spend 10 days in Karbala, and only half an hour in Najaf. Why do they go to Karbala? Because Hussien's wife was Persian, not because they love Hussein."[...]
The Iranians Are Not The Kind Of Shi'ites You Are Used To
"The Iranians are not the kind of Shi'ites you are used to. They are not like the Shi'ites of Iraq. The Shi'ites of Iraq follow the right path, they follow Ali bin Abu Talib they follow Hussein, they are Arabs, they are like the companions of the Prophet, they are the brothers of the Sunnis, and follow the Sunna of the Prophet of Allah."
We consistently talk about Israel and the Muslims, and yes, from time to time there is talk about Arab (particularly Gulf Arab) worries over a nuclear Iran. But the threat of a Sunni/Shi'ite conflict divided along ethnic lines is by far the most logical outcome of the US leaving the middle east.
Iran has imperial ambitions. VERY serious imperial ambitions in the Gulf region. It has developed proxies in Lebanon, Palestine, Somalia, you name it. It also dominates much of Iraq since the US invasion. The Arabs are calling this "The Safavi Plan" (after the dynasty which revived Iranian nationhood and made Shi'ite Islam the official religion of Iran. Here is a text from an Iraqi Shi'ite Sheik (taken from a video which I will also post):
"The Iranians Have a Plan"
Sheikh Kazem Al-'Unizan: "The Iranians have a plan, and today it extends to Somalia, to the straits of Bab Al-Mandab, to Yemen, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, and even to the kingdom of Jordan - they consider Jordan to be a great enemy.
"In Lebanon today, national unity is being torn to pieces, and the reason for that is Iranian intelligence. I am not talking about Iranian religious authorities or politicians. I'm talking about Iranian intelligence agencies and the ill-omened Al-Quds Corps, which want to destroy Arab unity.
"Until now, the Arabs have been incapable of dealing with this attack, because Iran has great capabilities, which it has used in its Safavid plan [the Safavid dynasty ruled Iran between 1501 and 1722, and declared Twelver Shi'a as the religion of the state]. Iran has extended...
"In Africa... I am a Shi'ite - a sheikh of a Shi'ite tribe. In the past, there was not a single Shi'ite in Africa. Now, there are two million Shi'ites in Senegal alone, in Somalia - half a million Shi'ites, in Sudan - two million Shi'ites, in Egypt - two million Shi'ites.
[...]
"The [Sunni-Shi'ite] strife was fueled by the American occupation, and was carried out by the Iranian occupation. As for the tombs [sacred to Shi'ites] - the Sunnis in Iraq have always been faithful servants of Imams Hassan Al-Askari and Ali Al-Hadi. How could any Iraqi, whether Shi'ite or Sunni, believe that the Sunnis of Samarra destroyed these tombs? These tombs were destroyed by mercenaries of the evil neighbor - Iran."
"The Great Shi'ite Religious Authority, the Martyr Muhammad Baqer Al-Hakim... Was Assassinated By an Iranian Conspiracy"
"Even the assassination of the great Shi'ite religious authority, the martyr Muhammad Baqer Al-Hakim... He was one of their own, but because he did not implement Iran's agenda, they sent someone to kill him. When this man entered Iraq, he spoke at the main square - and I was present there myself - and he said: 'May Allah forgive the past. The Ba'thists are our sons. We forgive Ba'thists who did wrong. We are willing to accept whoever wants to join us.' The [Iranians] said to him: 'We did not appoint you so you could say that the Ba'thists are our sons. We appointed you so you'd kill the officers of the Iraqi army, the commanders of the air force, and all the tribal leaders and other personalities.' The man was assassinated by an Iranian conspiracy. [...]"
"I Asked The Head Of The [Somali] Islamic Courts Union... 'Who Supports You?'... He Said... 'Iran Supports Us, Via Hizbullah'"
"I asked the head of the [Somali] Islamic Courts Union, whom I met in Libya: 'Who supports you?' I expected him to tell me it was Saudi Arabia, but he said: 'No, my brother. Iran supports us, via Hizbullah.' In this case, Iran supports the leader of a Salafi movement in the Horn of Africa.
"What interest does Iran have in supporting Sunni Salafism? This means Iran has a plan. What interest does Iran have in supporting Hamas and the Islamic Jihad? These are Sunni organizations. Iran's agenda is to carry out its great national plan, and it harbors deep hatred towards Arab Shi'ites who follow Imam Al-Sadeq.
"I have a simple way of proving it. When the Iranian pilgrims come to Karbala... I came here from Iraq only five days ago... Iranian pilgrims visit the graves of Hussein and his brother Al-Abbas in holy Karbala. It would have been more fitting for these pilgrims to visit the tomb of the father of Hussein and Al-Abbas - Ali bin Abu Talib, in Najaf. They spend 10 days in Karbala, and only half an hour in Najaf. Why do they go to Karbala? Because Hussien's wife was Persian, not because they love Hussein."[...]
The Iranians Are Not The Kind Of Shi'ites You Are Used To
"The Iranians are not the kind of Shi'ites you are used to. They are not like the Shi'ites of Iraq. The Shi'ites of Iraq follow the right path, they follow Ali bin Abu Talib they follow Hussein, they are Arabs, they are like the companions of the Prophet, they are the brothers of the Sunnis, and follow the Sunna of the Prophet of Allah."
