The Impeachment Thread

[OldLady]

Good argument by Ciccilline and Castro. Trump was lapping it up and did nothing to stop it for hours. Sick ****.

That's right. He was rooting for them. Everyone knows it.

I was afraid they wouldn't get to it. They're not leaving anything out, even though the Article itself seemed limited. Good job so far.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well I think they have just destroyed trumps "cant touch this" defence.




Old Lady - this one is for you.

/——/ Next time the GOP controls the House and Senate, they should impeach Clinton, Obozo and Biden. Then watch the democRATs scream.

We are talking about today’s Republicans
Of course they will impeach

Over whatever wild conspiracy theory their base believes in

And why not? impeachment has been cheapened to that point.

Republicans impeached over a Blow Job
Todays Republicans would impeach over whatever the latest conspiracy theory infatuates their base

They impeached over perjury. Tell the truth just once.

Lying about a Blow Job is still all about a Blow Job

/——-/ Lie about what you had for breakfast to a federal judge while under oath. What could possibly go wrong?

was the breakfast material to the outcome of the proceedings, matlock?

/——/ Any lie under oath is perjury, dumbass. And you think lying about sex in a sexual assault case is OK? Nothing But the Truth: What Happens When You Lie Under Oath - FindLaw

Lying about Blow Jobs is expected

Usually men say they got one when they didn’t. Clinton claimed he didn’t get one when he did.

Not when under oath it's not expected.

Divorce court demonstrates otherwise.

Even in divorce court you can be charged with perjury if it's proven you lied.

Lawyers know the law. Bubba knew he was committing perjury and did it anyway. It cost him his law license for a while and his handlers almost 6 figures, so it really doesn't matter if anyone thinks he shouldn't have been charged with it or not.

You can but likely won't. At worst, the threat of perjury might might be used by the other side for financial leverage. Lying in divorce court is prevalent.

Regardless, Bubba wasn't in divorce court.

That's true. And don't get me wrong, he did lie under oath and was appropriately punished for it. But at least keep it in context. He lied about getting a blow job. Republicans impeached him for that. Trump sought help for his presidential campaign from a foreign national, for which he was impeached. Which do you think was more egregious?

That depends if you're convinced that's what he did. The House didn't really make a very convincing case. It was blatantly clear what Bubba did in the context of a sexual harassment lawsuit.

LOL

He literally asked a foreign leader to open an investigation into a political rival. How else can that be viewed?

As an attempt to root out corruption in American officials.

Trump & Rudy pressured Ukraine to find dirt on Hunter Biden EXACTLY the same way Trump pressured Raffensperger to "find" 11, 000 votes in Georgia. See Rudy's call with Ukraine.

/—-/ Biden pressured the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter. So take your fake outrage and shove it.

Liar. Hunter Biden was never under any investigation by Shokin.

/——/ Ukraine police close Biden probe initiated by ousted prosecutor

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is not the only one on trial in the Senate. Republicans in the Senate are also on trial, and they will not render the final judgment upon Trump. The American people will.

All reports still indicate that getting 17 Republicans to convict is a stretch. After watching the presentations by the House managers for two days, one can easily conclude that using the argument that the trial is unconstitutional as an excuse to acquit is absolutely ludicrous. No one in the country will believe that, including Senate Republicans.

Using such an argument equates to rejecting reality to support the absolutely worst President this country has had in modern times.

If Senate Republicans acquit, the American people will ensure the GOP pays heavily for the grievance.

Proof of that is this thread. Trump's followers -- the few that are left -- are smart enough to remain silent. Attempting to challenge reality is not a wise course of action.

The Democrats wisely highlighted the attacks on Republicans concentrating on the Vice President.

Which side will Republicans take?
Trump or Pence?

 

[OldLady]

Trump is not the only one on trial in the Senate. Republicans in the Senate are also on trial, and they will not render the final judgment upon Trump. The American people will.

All reports still indicate that getting 17 Republicans to convict is a stretch. After watching the presentations by the House managers for two days, one can easily conclude that using the argument that the trial is unconstitutional as an excuse to acquit is absolutely ludicrous. No one in the country will believe that, including Senate Republicans.

Using such an argument equates to rejecting reality to support the absolutely worst President this country has had in modern times.

If Senate Republicans acquit, the American people will ensure the GOP pays heavily for the grievance.

Proof of that is this thread. Trump's followers -- the few that are left -- are smart enough to remain silent. Attempting to challenge reality is not a wise course of action.

They're not being wise. They are doing their usual ignoring of uncomfortable facts.

 

[OldLady]

Interesting watching the timeline of what Trump was saying and doing matched up against what was happening in the attack

While the mob was hunting for Mike Pence‘s head, Trump was tweeting calling Pence‘s patriotism into question. Trump stood idle and did nothing.

Trump never condemned the mob or told them to leave while the attack was ongoing.

In the end, he thanked them.

That was really effective.

 

[OldLady]

I'm truly sorry. It takes awhile for the words to get written and I remembered wrong. I can't get the livestream to rewind.
Dean ended with, "For the first time in more than 200 years, the seat of our government was ransacked on our watch.”

/—-/ Actually the Brits did in 1812 and then it was bombed last century.

If we're going for accuracy, the British attacked the Capitol in 1814.
I misquoted Dean, she had it right.
I don't remember it being bombed. Did they catch who did it?

 

[rightwinger]

Why aren’t our Conservative posters commenting on what was presented today?

Can you defend it?

 

[HaShev]

 

[Faun]

Stacey Plaskett is building an effective case of Trump complicity

I think they need a few witnesses to corroborate all of these internet quotes. Was trump aware of the crazies ? He probably was but she hasnt proved it.

This is Trumps administration. He is responsible for more than just what he tweets, but what his administration did in planning and executing this event.

If you don’t fight like hell, you will not have a country anymore

And that's the piece you're going to have to prove, that it was in fact the American government that was trying to overthrow the American government.

Trump was sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic

Trump turned out to be one of those enemies

I know that's the narrative and I understand you are contractually obligated to adhere tightly to it, but that's a fantasy in the fever swamp.

Trump defiled his oath of office

He needs to be held accountable

He was. He lost the election. You have to prove that he did what you claim is worth further abuse.

We have this thing called IMPEACHMENT that is proving what Trump did and failed to do in defending the Constitution.

He sent a mob to go after his own Vice President

You can prove that Trump sent the mob after Pence? I did not see those dots connected.

Trump: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution..."

Protester: "Pence is a traitor!"

Mob: "Hang Mike Pence!"

 

[Faun]

Why aren’t our Conservative posters commenting on what was presented today?

Can you defend it?

Of course they can't. All they can do is bury their heads up Trump's ass. Waaaaay up.

 

[Faun]

Stacey Plaskett is building an effective case of Trump complicity

I think they need a few witnesses to corroborate all of these internet quotes. Was trump aware of the crazies ? He probably was but she hasnt proved it.

This is Trumps administration. He is responsible for more than just what he tweets, but what his administration did in planning and executing this event.

If you don’t fight like hell, you will not have a country anymore

And that's the piece you're going to have to prove, that it was in fact the American government that was trying to overthrow the American government.

Trump was sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic

Trump turned out to be one of those enemies

I know that's the narrative and I understand you are contractually obligated to adhere tightly to it, but that's a fantasy in the fever swamp.

Trump defiled his oath of office

He needs to be held accountable

He was. He lost the election. You have to prove that he did what you claim is worth further abuse.

We have this thing called IMPEACHMENT that is proving what Trump did and failed to do in defending the Constitution.

He sent a mob to go after his own Vice President

You can prove that Trump sent the mob after Pence? I did not see those dots connected.

Trump condemned Pence to the TRUMPmob
He let down Democracy
Then sent them to stop the vote count.

You can hear the crowd chant......Kill Mike Pence, Bring him out, Hang Mike Pence

House manager says Capitol footage shows rioters wanted to "execute" Pence

The House impeachment managers present their case against former President Trump in the second day of the Senate trial. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

During the assault on the Capitol, extremists reportedly coordinated online and discussed how they could hunt down the vice president. Journalists in the Capitol reported they heard rioters say they were looking for Pence in order to execute him,

The police had Pence and Nancy safe.
If anything got too scary for the pols I'm sure the police would have had to use deadly force. Today's testimony had rioters entering Nancy's sanctum, then they were chased by a SWAT team. So i'm not seeing anyone swinging from gallows, or heads on pikes. The goobers were mostly sight-seeing.

This entire episode makes no sense. Even if the rioters took control of the capitol, para-military units would have been called in to remove or slaughter them. Remember what happened when the commies took control of the Russian parliament? Yeltsin called the tanks in?! It was a lose-lose operation for the idiot rioters.

Ah, so it's ok that Trump incited violence against the VPOTUS because Pence was able to escape with his life.

 

[Faun]

While right-wing supporters of Trump were storming the U.S. capitol building in an effort to stop Congress tallying Electoral College votes that will deliver the Presidency to Joe Biden, Trump decided this was a good time to attack Vice President Mike Pence for not doing the job for them.

As pence was fleeing for his life Trump tweeted:

Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021

Don't know if you saw it, but they showed video where no sooner did Trump hit send, you see a Trumptard with a megaphone blaring out the tweet to everyone around him. That was immediately followed by shits in the crowd yelling, "Mike Pence is a traitor" and "Mike Pence is a *****!" Inside, they're hunting for Mike Pence.

 

[Faun]

Well I think they have just destroyed trumps "cant touch this" defence.




Old Lady - this one is for you.

/——/ Next time the GOP controls the House and Senate, they should impeach Clinton, Obozo and Biden. Then watch the democRATs scream.

We are talking about today’s Republicans
Of course they will impeach

Over whatever wild conspiracy theory their base believes in

And why not? impeachment has been cheapened to that point.

Republicans impeached over a Blow Job
Todays Republicans would impeach over whatever the latest conspiracy theory infatuates their base

They impeached over perjury. Tell the truth just once.

Lying about a Blow Job is still all about a Blow Job

/——-/ Lie about what you had for breakfast to a federal judge while under oath. What could possibly go wrong?

was the breakfast material to the outcome of the proceedings, matlock?

/——/ Any lie under oath is perjury, dumbass. And you think lying about sex in a sexual assault case is OK? Nothing But the Truth: What Happens When You Lie Under Oath - FindLaw

Lying about Blow Jobs is expected

Usually men say they got one when they didn’t. Clinton claimed he didn’t get one when he did.

Not when under oath it's not expected.

Divorce court demonstrates otherwise.

Even in divorce court you can be charged with perjury if it's proven you lied.

Lawyers know the law. Bubba knew he was committing perjury and did it anyway. It cost him his law license for a while and his handlers almost 6 figures, so it really doesn't matter if anyone thinks he shouldn't have been charged with it or not.

You can but likely won't. At worst, the threat of perjury might might be used by the other side for financial leverage. Lying in divorce court is prevalent.

Regardless, Bubba wasn't in divorce court.

That's true. And don't get me wrong, he did lie under oath and was appropriately punished for it. But at least keep it in context. He lied about getting a blow job. Republicans impeached him for that. Trump sought help for his presidential campaign from a foreign national, for which he was impeached. Which do you think was more egregious?

That depends if you're convinced that's what he did. The House didn't really make a very convincing case. It was blatantly clear what Bubba did in the context of a sexual harassment lawsuit.

LOL

He literally asked a foreign leader to open an investigation into a political rival. How else can that be viewed?

As an attempt to root out corruption in American officials.

Trump & Rudy pressured Ukraine to find dirt on Hunter Biden EXACTLY the same way Trump pressured Raffensperger to "find" 11, 000 votes in Georgia. See Rudy's call with Ukraine.

/—-/ Biden pressured the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter. So take your fake outrage and shove it.

Liar. Hunter Biden was never under any investigation by Shokin.

/——/ Ukraine police close Biden probe initiated by ousted prosecutor

Shokin has alleged that he was forced to resign once he started looking into Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma​

Idiot, that's what Shokin says now. There's no record of him saying that then.

 

[Faun]

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What a ******* moron you are, eh? It depends on how you use it. Use it to put out a fire and you could be a hero. Use it to hit a cop in the head and you could go to jail.

 

[HaShev]

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What a ******* moron you are, eh? It depends on how you use it. Use it to put out a fire and you could be a hero. Use it to hit a cop in the head and you could go to jail.

You shouldn't make uneducated comments when calling someone stupid. Let me explain what you didn't get, because you probably never saw the mob lawyer who argued in the senate for the Dems.
Fact; There were no weapons arrests or found or discharged at the march but the Dem lawyer said the marchers were armed (a lie). The cop who died was hit with a fire Extinguisher but did not die from that, whatever wound it left. Conservatives aren't known to use items to hit people over the head with however antifa and radical leftists are known to use cement blocks bricks bats bikes and fire extinguishers to hit police over the head with.
Wait for the charges and full disclosure before you accuse people, innocent till proven guilty least you show everyone your fascist behavior.
-you've just been schooled by what you called a moron, congrats!

 

[Lesh]

While right-wing supporters of Trump were storming the U.S. capitol building in an effort to stop Congress tallying Electoral College votes that will deliver the Presidency to Joe Biden, Trump decided this was a good time to attack Vice President Mike Pence for not doing the job for them.

As pence was fleeing for his life Trump tweeted:

Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021

Don't know if you saw it, but they showed video where no sooner did Trump hit send, you see a Trumptard with a megaphone blaring out the tweet to everyone around him. That was immediately followed by shits in the crowd yelling, "Mike Pence is a traitor" and "Mike Pence is a *****!" Inside, they're hunting for Mike Pence.

Trump COULD have called for the MAGArioters to stand down RIGHT THEN. They were clearly paying attention to him...but he didn't

Because they were doing what he wanted them to do

 

[Lakhota]

Republican hypocrisy runs deep...

 

[Lesh]

Republican hypocrisy runs deep...

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pointing out the dishonest hypocrisy of Mitch McConnell is like saying

"Water is wet"

 

[Faun]

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What a ******* moron you are, eh? It depends on how you use it. Use it to put out a fire and you could be a hero. Use it to hit a cop in the head and you could go to jail.

You shouldn't make uneducated comments when calling someone stupid. Let me explain what you didn't get, because you probably never saw the mob lawyer who argued in the senate for the Dems.
Fact; There were no weapons arrests or found or discharged at the march but the Dem lawyer said the marchers were armed (a lie). The cop who died was hit with a fire Extinguisher but did not die from that, whatever wound it left. Conservatives aren't known to use items to hit people over the head with however antifa and radical leftists are known to use cement blocks bricks bats bikes and fire extinguishers to hit police over the head with.
Wait for the charges and full disclosure before you accuse people, innocent till proven guilty least you show everyone your fascist behavior.
-you've just been schooled by what you called a moron, congrats!

No weapons? This guy has a stun stick on his lap...

 

[HaShev]

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What a ******* moron you are, eh? It depends on how you use it. Use it to put out a fire and you could be a hero. Use it to hit a cop in the head and you could go to jail.

You shouldn't make uneducated comments when calling someone stupid. Let me explain what you didn't get, because you probably never saw the mob lawyer who argued in the senate for the Dems.
Fact; There were no weapons arrests or found or discharged at the march but the Dem lawyer said the marchers were armed (a lie). The cop who died was hit with a fire Extinguisher but did not die from that, whatever wound it left. Conservatives aren't known to use items to hit people over the head with however antifa and radical leftists are known to use cement blocks bricks bats bikes and fire extinguishers to hit police over the head with.
Wait for the charges and full disclosure before you accuse people, innocent till proven guilty least you show everyone your fascist behavior.
-you've just been schooled by what you called a moron, congrats!

No weapons? This guy has a stun stick on his lap...

I never said no weapons that's impossible to know without frisking everyone or being branished which never happened according to FBI, reread what I said: "no weapons arrests"
That pic tells us nothing, do you have a link to that man's fbi report? Link please!
Fact; FBI said the people they arrested that broke through when checked majority did not even vote in this election, that takes the air out of the "Angered by stolen vote argument"...wah wah wahhhh!