The illegal alien problem

[Hafar1014]

Could slaves vote? They were counted for apportionment, albeit at 3/5th a person. But counted, and counted for apportionment. Could children vote? Nope, Counted for purpose of apportionment. Women, could they vote? Nope, counted for purpose of apportionment.

The funny thing, this whole question, about who should be counted for the purpose of apportionment, was hotly debated during the Constitutional Convention. Matter of fact, it almost caused the entire convention to fail. In the end they rallied around Hamilton's quote,

“There can be no truer principle than this – that every individual of the community at large has an equal right to the protection of government.”

We never had millions of illegal invaders distorting the population. They arent going to be counted this time

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We never had millions of illegal invaders distorting the population. They arent going to be counted this time

Where is your law that changes the definition and the SCOTUS case that says it's constitutional? When you have that, I'll agree. Until then ...

 

[Hafar1014]

Where is your law that changes the definition and the SCOTUS case that says it's constitutional? When you have that, I'll agree. Until then ...

Dont need a law just an order and a SC ruling. Its coming. Then how many will be left in 5 years. This year almost 3 million have been deported.

 

[Lesh]

Why cant they be counted separately. They only have be counted not used to determine seats in the house

No and they cant vote so they must not be counted for apportionment. Fugitives arent free thy just havent been caught yetr

That’s literally why there is a count stupid

 

[Lesh]

Dont need a law just an order and a SC ruling. Its coming. Then how many will be left in 5 years. This year almost 3 million have been deported.

Link

 

[Hafar1014]

That’s literally why there is a count stupid

The point is doint allow illegals to distort the apportionment which favors democrats

 

[Hafar1014]

Link

WASHINGTON (TNND) — The Department of Homeland Security celebrated on Tuesday that two million illegal immigrants have either self-deported or have been deported since the start of the Trump administration.

“The numbers don’t lie: 2 million illegal aliens have been removed or self-deported in just 250 days— proving that President Trump’s policies and Secretary Noem’s leadership are working and making American communities safe,” Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “Ramped-up immigration enforcement targeting the worst of the worst is removing more and more criminal illegal aliens off our streets every day and is sending a clear message to anyone else in this country illegally: Self-deport or we will arrest and deport you.”
Add another 400000 forced out.
It will be close to 3 million this year

Trump's immigration crackdown: 2 million illegal immigrants gone in just 250 days

DHS celebrated on Tuesday that two million illegal immigrants have either self-deported or have been deported since the start of the Trump administration.

thenationaldesk.com

 

[Lesh]

WASHINGTON (TNND) — The Department of Homeland Security celebrated on Tuesday that two million illegal immigrants have either self-deported or have been deported since the start of the Trump administration.

“The numbers don’t lie: 2 million illegal aliens have been removed or self-deported in just 250 days— proving that President Trump’s policies and Secretary Noem’s leadership are working and making American communities safe,” Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “Ramped-up immigration enforcement targeting the worst of the worst is removing more and more criminal illegal aliens off our streets every day and is sending a clear message to anyone else in this country illegally: Self-deport or we will arrest and deport you.”
Add another 400000 forced out.
It will be close to 3 million this year

Trump's immigration crackdown: 2 million illegal immigrants gone in just 250 days

DHS celebrated on Tuesday that two million illegal immigrants have either self-deported or have been deported since the start of the Trump administration.

thenationaldesk.com

So let’s see. You proved yourself a liar. Good job

The number was two million not three and it’s “either deported or self deported”.

Of course they have no way of knowing how many left voluntarily and they’re not making a distinction between the two.

So how many deported?

 

[Lesh]

So let’s see. You proved yourself a liar. Good job

The number was two million not three and it’s “either deported or self deported”.

Of course they have no way of know how many left voluntarily and they’re not making a distinction between the two.

So how many deported?

400,000 . A FAR cry from three million

 

[Lesh]

The point is doint allow illegals to distort the apportionment which favors democrats

Does it favor democrats in Texas? Florida?

**** off

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dont need a law just an order and a SC ruling. Its coming. Then how many will be left in 5 years. This year almost 3 million have been deported.

SCOTUS rules on laws and the Constitution. What do you have to support your belief? Neither, correct?

 

[Winston]

We never had millions of illegal invaders distorting the population. They arent going to be counted this time

"Distorting the population"? See, now you done run plum into racism. You a member of the Proud Boys?

How this nation was populated is an amazing story. It never was intended to be diverse. I mean the Pilgrims are the ones most credited, I guess we all just want to ignore the failure that was Jamestown. And the Pilgrims run deep, ten percent of Americans descended from someone on the Mayflower. Actually, pretty damn impressive 400 years later.

Nope, America was suppose to be a special place, for a special people. The Pilgrims were the soft version, then came the Puritans, OMG. But from the get-go, that was never going to happen. I mean it is comical, Pilgrims show up, the whole Thanksgiving story, how the Pilgrims and the Native Americans got along. Well yeah, when they were greeted by a Native American that spoke fluent English, and probably French as well. A native American that had spent years in Europe, dined with Kings and Queens. Nope, the old history book just says, "Squanto". Like he was just chilling there waiting on the flipping Pilgrims,

No, the first non Native Americans to call this place home, escaped slaves, from ships that had crashed, The first swam ashore around Paris Island, yes, the Marine basic training base. I mean the diversity that was already established before the Pilgrims first came ashore is astounding. First person to cross the continent, a Muslim. First person West of the Catawba River, my home, Swiss, LOL,

I mean we have seen this native thing time and time again. I have often said, they called it the "Know Nothing" party for a reason.

 

[Lockback]

We have counted everyone here regardless of status since the first census in 1790.

it is called for in the Constitutions Enumeration clause.

Well, then it's time to change that.
People who are here illegally have absolutely no right to play a part in how we're governed.

 

[pknopp]

Well, then it's time to change that.
People who are here illegally have absolutely no right to play a part in how we're governed.

There is a process to change it. It's not going to change by whining about it.

 

[Lockback]

There is a process to change it. It's not going to change by whining about it.

Then let the process begin. And informing people of the problem is part of the process.

 

[pknopp]

Then let the process begin. And informing people of the problem is part of the process.

LOL, people know how it works.

 

[Lockback]

LOL, people know how it works.

No they do not.
The average American has no clue that illegal aliens are included in the census.
It needs to be publicized heavily.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

To avoid any confusion its not them
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But dont put it past democrats to offer them asylum.

The issue is power for the democrat party and the fear of losing it.
1.Democrats have been rigging the census for decades by including illegals in the population which increases their number of seats in the house. (apportionment). It also increase the electoral college votes in their states. So they opened the border paid them many benefits and crested sanctuary cities to attract them to their states. Why?

Population Loss in Key Blue States
U.S. Census data from July 2022 to July 2023 indicates a continued trend of population decline in several consistently Democratic-leaning states.

• New York lost the most residents by volume in 2023, with a decrease of 101,984 people. Since 2020, its population has dropped by approximately 630,000 residents.
• California saw a decline of 75,423 residents in 2023, the second-largest net loss. It has lost population for three consecutive years.
• Illinois lost 32,826 residents in 2023 and approximately 260,000 between 2020 and 2023.
• Pennsylvania experienced a loss of 10,408 people in 2023.
• Oregon and Hawaii also saw smaller population declines in 2023.

Key Drivers and Consequences
The migration from blue to red states is a long-term trend, with IRS data showing a significant exodus over the past 30 years.

• Economic Factors: Residents often cite the high cost of living, housing shortages, and taxes in blue states as primary reasons for leaving.
• Remote Work: The rise of remote work during the pandemic allowed many individuals to move from expensive urban centers to more affordable areas, many of which were in red or purple states.
• Political Impact: The population shifts have significant political consequences, as the U.S. House of Representatives seats and Electoral College votes are reapportioned every decade based on census data. Projections based on current trends indicate that Democratic states may lose approximately a dozen House seats to Republican states after the 2030 Census, further narrowing the Democratic path to the presidency.

For official population data and trends, refer to the U.S. Census Bureau website.

This trend will increase as blue states elect socialist mayors, cant control crime, or the homeless.

The next census is 2030. If illegals are not counted democrats will lose 12 -15 seats that will go to Red states. Texas redistricting approved by the SC will add another 5. One more Red state will do the same and add another 5.

Thats why democrats are doing everything they can to keep them here and they dont care that thousands are violent criminals. Not one word about their victims. But they cant stop praising the wonderful illegals invading our country and killing raping robbing molesting innocent people

If the space aliens were here to help us, the Democrats would not offer them asylum. Only if they could be beneficial in undermining our way of life would the Democrat party have any use for them.

 

[Lockback]

If the space aliens were here to help us, the Democrats would not offer them asylum. Only if they could be beneficial in undermining our way of life would the Democrat party have any use for them.

That's how they roll: Hate America First.

 

[Lesh]

Well, then it's time to change that.
People who are here illegally have absolutely no right to play a part in how we're governed.

Tell you what.
Get working on that Constitutional amendment