The Ignored Black Deaths

[IM2]

Oh yeah it's all Y/T's fault
Medicine needs to be de-colonized

The truth is what it is.

 

[IM2]

70%(!) of Black children are born out of wedlock. Illegitimacy is positively correlated with poverty, crime, incarceration, substance abuse, illiteracy, and all sorts of health issues. Accordingly, a Black person who complains about an elevated rate of infant mortality is precluded from blaming any outside factor. It is the fault of the mother and the biological father, and no one else.

BS. Things are not so simple and unwed means not married, not that no man is around. You are white and have never experienced the processes that happen to a body when they experience racism. So until you turn black and do so, cease with trying to whitesplain.

 

[IM2]

covid was also a global problem but the left didnt hesitate to blame Trump for the virus that leaked from a Chicom lab .

Trumps mismanagement of this pandemic created needless death, but this has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[IM2]

apparently you havent read the Gop's contract with America plan .

I have read the Liz Truss plan for America. Which has nothing to do with tis topic.

 

[yidnar]

I have read the Liz Truss plan for America. Which has nothing to do with tis topic.

i replied to your post that the gop had no plan or answers.

 

[IM2]

i replied to your post that the gop had no plan or answers.

And that was done after reading the standard trash you right wingers post trying to blame democrats for everything.

 

[Rogue AI]

Racism induced Black infant death? WTF???

Predominantly in Democrat controlled cities. Go figure.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah right. Blacks are simultaneously aborting record numbers of babies while setting records for unwed births according to white right wingers.

Both can be true.

 

[Woodznutz]

You have been show valid fact from peer reviewed studies. Apparently I'm smarter than you and can use compiled data to make a conclusion. I'm not so dumb as to need to see a certificate that literally says death by racism to know what the stress caused by white racism can cause.

Until you turn black and live to feel the bodily reaction to white racism when it's imposed on us, all you can do is ask:"What can we do to stop these deaths?"

The article featured a woman who 'took care of herself' during her pregnancy, giving the false impression that she was healthy. Black women are not as healthy as white women, so it's no surprise that those infant mortality rates are so high.

It is interesting that during the Egyptian captivity the (white) Israelite women had much better childbirth experiences than their black masters. Maybe it is a genetic thing.

Exodus 1:19
And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

 

[MarathonMike]

You are white and have never experienced the processes that happen to a body when they experience racism.

What you are describing is how a person's perception can affect them in a physically negative way which is true. The problem with your entire premise of "Racism induced death" is that you blame racism alone when there are other external stressors and environmental factors, personality type and lifestyle that factor into why Black people die prematurely at higher rates than White people. Put another way, you could subject 10 Black people to the exact same racial stressors and you would have 10 different physical reactions, including no reaction at all.

 

[JoeMoma]

What you are describing is how a person's perception can affect them in a physically negative way which is true. The problem with your entire premise of "Racism induced death" is that you blame racism alone when there are other external stressors and environmental factors, personality type and lifestyle that factor into why Black people die prematurely at higher rates than White people. Put another way, you could subject 10 Black people to the exact same racial stressors and you would have 10 different physical reactions, including no reaction at all.

IM2 sees everything through the lens of race and racism. Thus everything is about race. If a black person dies due to heart complications it because he experienced stress due to white racism, not because of poor diet and poor exercise habits or even a genetic predisposition to heart disease.

 

[miketx]

We don't have a race problem, we have a problem race.

 

[Woodznutz]

We are like the five blind monks describing an elephant.

 

[PeanutGallery]

You have been show valid fact from peer reviewed studies. Apparently I'm smarter than you and can use compiled data to make a conclusion. I'm not so dumb as to need to see a certificate that literally says death by racism to know what the stress caused by white racism can cause.

Until you turn black and live to feel the bodily reaction to white racism when it's imposed on us, all you can do is ask:"What can we do to stop these deaths?"

Considering I've been black since the day I was born, I don't have to turn a damn thing to experience being black. Ya need to get over yourself, son. I've lived in several states and a couple of different countries and this notion of one having to "live to feel the bodily reaction to white racism when it's imposed on us," is hilarious to me. What part of the US did you live in to supposedly have to go thru that? What incidents did YOU experience of white racism? BTW, I'm pretty sure a post- Jim Crow person so you didn't have to live thru what my parents went through.

Terrell died, according to the story, because of "complications" with the delivery. Funny that the "complications" are in quotes and the actual problems with the delivery aren't mentioned. Rather important details to omit from the story. So from these "complications", IM2 comes to the conclusion that it was racism that caused this. I'm curious where you got your medical degree because nowhere in the story of Terrell was that suggested.

The Johns Hopkins writeup is from an organization (CCP) that includes as its priorities: social justice, gender equity, and climate change. The writer of the Nation article received an award for social justice journalism. I'm smart enough to know that if I want to have something have the point of view I want, I can find articles from the right or the left that goes along with my viewpoint. Congrats of being to use Google. Too bad you chose junk science articles to support to claim. Hey, but at least you tried.

 

[PeanutGallery]

“I can say for sure that happens because I did it. Before retirement, I was an Engineer. For the last 20 years of my career, I was a Manager and Director and I hired hundreds of people. I reviewed well over a thousand resumes for all kinds of positions. Everything from Secretaries to Engineering Managers. Both Salary and Hourly. I always culled out the resumes with Black Ethnic names.

Never shortlisted anybody with a Black Ethnic name. Never hired them.” Since the Fortune 50 company I worked for had a stupid “affirmative action” hiring policies I never mentioned it to anybody and I always got away with it. A couple of times I was instructed to improve my departmental “diversity” demographics but I always ignored it and never got into any trouble.

My stereotype is that anybody with a stupid ghetto Black ethnic name is probably worthless. I could have been wrong a couple of times but I was also probably right 99% of the time. Glad I did it. I would do it again.”

Flash-USMB member.

Because of whites like him there are blacks who are unemployed. Some because of dire circumstances, may have resorted to illegal means of making money. But none of that is the fault of whites like flash who shut down a chance for somebody black being hired due to his hate. That's not the problem, oh no, blacks must grow up and take responsibility.

It would've been easier to just post a link to the quote.

 

[hadit]

Yeah right. Blacks are simultaneously aborting record numbers of babies while setting records for unwed births according to white right wingers.

Those are not mutually exclusive, you know.

 

[Couchpotato]

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Each year in the United States, more than 23,000 infants die before reaching their first birthday. Though the mortality rate varies widely by state and county, the average in the United States is higher than in the rest of the world’s wealthy countries, worse than in Poland and Slovakia. Because infants are so vulnerable, their survival is considered a benchmark for a society’s overall health. What our infant-mortality rate tells us is that, despite spending more money on health care than any other country in the world, the United States is not very healthy. Looked at closely, it reveals that particular groups of Americans are starkly unwell.

White, educated American women lose their infants at rates similar to mothers in America’s peer countries. Most of the burden of the higher mortality rate here is borne by poorer, less-educated families, particularly those headed by unmarried or black women. Across the United States, black infants die at a rate that’s more than twice as high as that of white infants.

After she lost her son, Tonda Thompson dreamed of a baby in a washing machine. She’d stuffed in dirty clothes and closed the door. The lock clicked shut. Water rushed in. Then she saw him, floating behind the glass. Frantic, she jabbed at a keypad on the machine, searching for a code to unlock the door.

When Thompson became pregnant she was 25, living in Los Angeles and working as a model. She and her boyfriend got engaged and moved back to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. She’d grown up on the city’s north side, a predominantly African-American neighborhood with pockets of deep poverty, in a zip code known for having the highest incarceration rate in the United States. Thompson went to all of her medical appointments, took prenatal vitamins, and stayed in shape. On her birthday, she wrote on Facebook that the only gift she wanted was “a healthy mom and baby.” But she also wrote about how hard it was to be pregnant in a city where there was “nothing to do that’s fun and safe.”

Thompson got married in April 2013, and a month later went into labor. Forty hours later, Terrell was born. He lived less than half that time, due to “complications” with the delivery. By the time Thompson got home, all of the baby’s things had been moved to the basement. She’d gotten to hold him for five minutes.

The year that Terrell died, a mother in war-torn Libya had better odds of celebrating her child’s first birthday than Thompson did.

What’s Killing America’s Black Infants?

Racism is fueling a national health crisis.

www.thenation.com

Terrell Thompson lived less than 20 hours. He was not killed by gunfire. His death was due to complications during his moms pregnancy. That complication was stress caused by racism. But we won't see Terrell Thompsons name mentioned by our fine white members so concerned with the deaths of black children. In fact watch me get told how white racism didn't cause this.

But there is a problem with that opinion.

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Black Maternal Mortality: ‘It is Racism, not Race’​

CCP's Tina Suliman writes: "The maternal mortality crisis in the United States emphasizes the truth behind this declaration: It is racism, not race, that is killing America’s Black mothers and babies."

May 17, 2021
By Tina Suliman

On Thursday, May 6, the eve of Mother’s Day weekend, the U.S. House Oversight and Reform Committee held a hearing on racism in Black maternal health care. Among the witnesses were the families of Black mothers who had died giving birth. Congresswoman Cori Bush gave an impassioned speech recounting her own traumatic pregnancy experiences as a Black woman. “Every day, Black women die because the system denies our humanity,” Bush said.
Representative Bush’s experience is unfortunately common. In Maryland, CCP’s backyard, Black women are four times more likely to experience a pregnancy-related death than white women. This disparity is rooted in systems of oppression and injustice, and persists even when controlling for education, body mass index and socio-economic status.

The tragic story of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health alumnus, Shalon Irving, underscores this fact. Shalon, herself an epidemiologist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) whose research aimed to address health disparities, tragically passed away three weeks after giving birth to her daughter Soleil in 2017. In the week leading up to her death, Shalon exhibited several red flags, including alarming spikes in blood pressure, severe swelling in her legs, headaches and swelling at her C-section incision. Despite repeatedly seeking medical care, providers dismissed her symptoms as normal. She ultimately collapsed in her home. Even Shalon’s PhD, private health insurance and social safety net were not enough to ensure her survival.

This crisis is driven by unconscious bias in the medical system and its actors. In a 2016 survey of white medical students, nearly half held false beliefs about biological differences in Black patients, including thicker skin and less sensitive nerve endings. Another 2020 study found that Black babies are more likely to live if they are cared for by a Black physician. Recently, the CDC declared racism a public health threat. The maternal mortality crisis in the United States emphasizes the truth behind this declaration: It is racism, not race, that is killing America’s Black mothers and babies.

Black Maternal Mortality: ‘It is Racism, not Race’ - Johns Hopkins Center for Communication Programs

CCP's Tina Suliman writes: "The maternal mortality crisis in the United States emphasizes the truth behind this declaration: It is racism, not race, that is killing America’s Black mothers and babies."

ccp.jhu.edu

You see, these are black deaths too, and there are more of them than the ones posted in other threads. And all of these deaths have one common cause-white racism. White racism was made a crime 57 -58 years ago, but its still happening. This white on black crime far exceeds black on black crime.

Terrell Thompson never got out of the incubator because of white racism. His name does get put up in bold because his death doesn't give a racist the chance to lecture to blacks about how we should do things.

Abortion is the leading cause of black baby deaths.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Considering I've been black since the day I was born, I don't have to turn a damn thing to experience being black. Ya need to get over yourself, son. I've lived in several states and a couple of different countries and this notion of one having to "live to feel the bodily reaction to white racism when it's imposed on us," is hilarious to me. What part of the US did you live in to supposedly have to go thru that? What incidents did YOU experience of white racism? BTW, I'm pretty sure a post- Jim Crow person so you didn't have to live thru what my parents went through.

Terrell died, according to the story, because of "complications" with the delivery. Funny that the "complications" are in quotes and the actual problems with the delivery aren't mentioned. Rather important details to omit from the story. So from these "complications", IM2 comes to the conclusion that it was racism that caused this. I'm curious where you got your medical degree because nowhere in the story of Terrell was that suggested.

The Johns Hopkins writeup is from an organization (CCP) that includes as its priorities: social justice, gender equity, and climate change. The writer of the Nation article received an award for social justice journalism. I'm smart enough to know that if I want to have something have the point of view I want, I can find articles from the right or the left that goes along with my viewpoint. Congrats of being to use Google. Too bad you chose junk science articles to support to claim. Hey, but at least you tried.

IM2 CLAIMS to live in KANSAS.

 

[USAF 2023]

Yeah right. Blacks are simultaneously aborting record numbers of babies while setting records for unwed births according to white right wingers.

If “ Black Lives Matter” maybe they should stop killing each other.

 

[ninja007]

Trumps mismanagement of this pandemic created needless death, but this has nothing to do with the topic.

there was no pandemic, theres no such thing as covid.