The Humanitarian Gaza Flotillas Saga

[P F Tinmore]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

Everybody has the right to defend themselves.

 

[Challenger]

HAMAS and the Arab Palestinian people only plays the defense game when it to their advantage. What HAMAS does is provoke a fight or confrontation. THEN: As Islreal responds to the provocation, HAMAS cries out that Israel using excessive force.

Are you seriously saying Zionist israel doesn't play the "self defence" card when it's to their advantage? The reality is that It's zionist israel that does the provoking, whenever they want to "cut the grass" or "mow the lawn" Palestinian resistance rocket and mortar attacks almost always follow Zionist targeted assassinations or airstrikes against "suspected terrorist targets"

Most countries...

Really? Don't you mean most Western countries. Hamas does not appear on the U.N. SC list of sanctioned organisations http://www.un.org/sc/committees/consolidated.pdf

I suspect most countries see HAMAs as a legitimate indigenous resistance movement against a colonial oppressor.

You suspect wrong, Hamas is designated as a TERRORIST organization by the U.S., 29 countries of the European Union including Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, and a few other Western nations. You are always trying to change facts, Achmed.

Scrub the EU for the moment, they're having a re-think. So that's basically USA, Canada, Australia and Japan, toeing the American party line. The rest of the world know better.

 

[Hollie]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

To defend themselves from the Zionists who keep attacking them, it seems.

If you were capable of an honest assessment regarding a sovereign nation under constant attack by multiple, antagonistic Islamic terrorist networks with an abiding interest (and Charter that calls for the ethnic cleansing of Israel), it's quite obvious that Israel has shown remarkable restraint dealing with the degenerate, "you love life, we love death" morons next door.

 

[Roudy]

So do Israelis have the same right to defend themselves, from the rocket attacks, terror tunnels, and suicide bombings. When a genocidal Islamic terrorist regime who's aim is to destroy the entire Jewish state is in charge of Gaza, then Isrsel has every right to make sure these animals don't get their hands on the weapons to commit mass murder.

 

[Hollie]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

Everybody has the right to defend themselves.

"..... from Islamic terrorists"

There. Fixed that for you, sweetie.

 

[Roudy]

HAMAS and the Arab Palestinian people only plays the defense game when it to their advantage. What HAMAS does is provoke a fight or confrontation. THEN: As Islreal responds to the provocation, HAMAS cries out that Israel using excessive force.

Are you seriously saying Zionist israel doesn't play the "self defence" card when it's to their advantage? The reality is that It's zionist israel that does the provoking, whenever they want to "cut the grass" or "mow the lawn" Palestinian resistance rocket and mortar attacks almost always follow Zionist targeted assassinations or airstrikes against "suspected terrorist targets"

Most countries...

Really? Don't you mean most Western countries. Hamas does not appear on the U.N. SC list of sanctioned organisations http://www.un.org/sc/committees/consolidated.pdf

I suspect most countries see HAMAs as a legitimate indigenous resistance movement against a colonial oppressor.

You suspect wrong, Hamas is designated as a TERRORIST organization by the U.S., 29 countries of the European Union including Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, and a few other Western nations. You are always trying to change facts, Achmed.

Scrub the EU for the moment, they're having a re-think. So that's basically USA, Canada, Australia and Japan, toeing the American party line. The rest of the world know better.

Keep jerking yourself off to it Achmed. The EU has had Hamas on the terrorist list because Hamas fits the bill. And now even a few Arab countries have jumped on board. It's actually getting worse and not better for you HamASS terrorist lovers. LOL

 

[Challenger]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

What's to notice? nothing to talk about.

"Egyptian intelligence officers recently met with senior Hamas officials to discuss the strained relationship between Cairo and Hamas, with the possibility of an Egyptian blockade of Gaza being eased.

Cairo is seemingly taking steps to reconcile with Hamas. The Urgent Matters Appeals Court in Cairo on Saturday threw out a lower court's February ruling that labeled Hamas as "terrorist" -- saying the previous court had no jurisdiction to make such a declaration.

"We consider this a correction to the previous mistake," Hamas said in a statement. "This decision confirms Egypt's steadfast towards its ethnic role towards Palestine and without doubt will have its positive effect on bilateral relations." Egypt reconciliation stretching for Hamas Fatah harmony - UPI.com

 

[Challenger]

HAMAS and the Arab Palestinian people only plays the defense game when it to their advantage. What HAMAS does is provoke a fight or confrontation. THEN: As Islreal responds to the provocation, HAMAS cries out that Israel using excessive force.

Are you seriously saying Zionist israel doesn't play the "self defence" card when it's to their advantage? The reality is that It's zionist israel that does the provoking, whenever they want to "cut the grass" or "mow the lawn" Palestinian resistance rocket and mortar attacks almost always follow Zionist targeted assassinations or airstrikes against "suspected terrorist targets"

Most countries...

Really? Don't you mean most Western countries. Hamas does not appear on the U.N. SC list of sanctioned organisations http://www.un.org/sc/committees/consolidated.pdf

I suspect most countries see HAMAs as a legitimate indigenous resistance movement against a colonial oppressor.

You suspect wrong, Hamas is designated as a TERRORIST organization by the U.S., 29 countries of the European Union including Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, and a few other Western nations. You are always trying to change facts, Achmed.

Scrub the EU for the moment, they're having a re-think. So that's basically USA, Canada, Australia and Japan, toeing the American party line. The rest of the world know better.

Keep jerking yourself off to it Achmed. The EU has had Hamas on the terrorist list because Hamas fits the bill. And now even a few Arab countries have jumped on board. It's actually getting worse and not better for you HamASS terrorist lovers. LOL

Dream on.

 

[Roudy]

LOL denial is not a river in Egypt, Achmed.

Hamas angered by Egyptian court s terrorist label - Report Gaza - Egypt - RFI

Saudis Put Terrorist Label on Hamas / Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/w...rrorist-label-on-muslim-brotherhood.html?_r=0

UAE Doubles Down on Designation of Hamas-linked CAIR as Terrorists
The UAE reaffirmed its decision to designate the Council on American Islamic Relations a terrorist org, warning the West of Islamic extremists.

Saudi Arabia Pressures Qatar on Muslim Brotherhood

 

[Hollie]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

What's to notice? nothing to talk about.

"Egyptian intelligence officers recently met with senior Hamas officials to discuss the strained relationship between Cairo and Hamas, with the possibility of an Egyptian blockade of Gaza being eased.

Cairo is seemingly taking steps to reconcile with Hamas. The Urgent Matters Appeals Court in Cairo on Saturday threw out a lower court's February ruling that labeled Hamas as "terrorist" -- saying the previous court had no jurisdiction to make such a declaration.

"We consider this a correction to the previous mistake," Hamas said in a statement. "This decision confirms Egypt's steadfast towards its ethnic role towards Palestine and without doubt will have its positive effect on bilateral relations." Egypt reconciliation stretching for Hamas Fatah harmony - UPI.com

What's to talk about is that there is action being taken by Egypt to control its border due to the actions of the Islamic terrorists occupying Gaza.

 

[Phoenall]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

1. Arms and Munitions: forbidden transfer under all circumstances across Israel's frontiers without specific permits - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Arms and Munitions) 5768-2008, and in the Control of Exports Security Order (Missile Equipment) 5768-2008.

2. Dual Use goods and items: liable to be used, side by side with their civilian purposes, for the development, production, installation or enhancement of military capabilities and terrorist capacities. This list comprises:

Items listed under the Wassenaar Arrangement: As specified in the updated (2008) "Wassenaar Arrangement on Export Controls for Arms and Dual Use Goods and Technologies - List of Dual Use Goods and Technologies and Munitions List."

The Wassenaar Arrangement Homepage

The Participating States of the Wassenaar Arrangement are:

Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom and United States.​

I don't see Israel or Palestine on this list.

BTW, what Israeli frontier have the Palestinians crossed?

Don't need to as it is still a valid treaty that any nation can use as the basis of a blockade. The same treaty was used by the UN against Iraq and Iran.

the one imposed by Israel under the terms of the blockade and the one agreed in all the cease fires with hamas/fatah

 

[Phoenall]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

What causes your continuing confusion regarding Islamic terrorism and so-called "Palestinian" Arabs?

Deflection.

A direct question can not be deflection.

 

[Phoenall]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

To defend themselves from the Zionists who keep attacking them, it seems.

And again the islamomoron uses the term Zionist out of context and in a racist manner

 

[Phoenall]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

Everybody has the right to defend themselves.

Then detail how murdering 3 boys in cold blood, premeditated at the highest level of hamas is defence. Then detail how firing illegal weapons at Israeli children is defence, And finally how planting H.E under Israeli schools primed to explode when the children were present is defence.
3 instances that you refuse to show are defensive because you know you don't have a leg to stand on. So you deflect and derail every time you are asked to explain how they where defensive

 

[Phoenall]

HAMAS and the Arab Palestinian people only plays the defense game when it to their advantage. What HAMAS does is provoke a fight or confrontation. THEN: As Islreal responds to the provocation, HAMAS cries out that Israel using excessive force.

Are you seriously saying Zionist israel doesn't play the "self defence" card when it's to their advantage? The reality is that It's zionist israel that does the provoking, whenever they want to "cut the grass" or "mow the lawn" Palestinian resistance rocket and mortar attacks almost always follow Zionist targeted assassinations or airstrikes against "suspected terrorist targets"

Most countries...

Really? Don't you mean most Western countries. Hamas does not appear on the U.N. SC list of sanctioned organisations http://www.un.org/sc/committees/consolidated.pdf

I suspect most countries see HAMAs as a legitimate indigenous resistance movement against a colonial oppressor.

You suspect wrong, Hamas is designated as a TERRORIST organization by the U.S., 29 countries of the European Union including Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, and a few other Western nations. You are always trying to change facts, Achmed.

Scrub the EU for the moment, they're having a re-think. So that's basically USA, Canada, Australia and Japan, toeing the American party line. The rest of the world know better.

Lets not scrub the EU, instead lest just scrub the court that removed the terrorist name temporarily. That court speaks only for itself and not for the individual nations. So the terrorist name still stands in the EU nations that have applied it

 

[Challenger]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

What's to notice? nothing to talk about.

"Egyptian intelligence officers recently met with senior Hamas officials to discuss the strained relationship between Cairo and Hamas, with the possibility of an Egyptian blockade of Gaza being eased.

Cairo is seemingly taking steps to reconcile with Hamas. The Urgent Matters Appeals Court in Cairo on Saturday threw out a lower court's February ruling that labeled Hamas as "terrorist" -- saying the previous court had no jurisdiction to make such a declaration.

"We consider this a correction to the previous mistake," Hamas said in a statement. "This decision confirms Egypt's steadfast towards its ethnic role towards Palestine and without doubt will have its positive effect on bilateral relations." Egypt reconciliation stretching for Hamas Fatah harmony - UPI.com

What's to talk about is that there is action being taken by Egypt to control its border due to the actions of the Islamic terrorists occupying Gaza.

Nope. Egypt increased it's border activity along the border because of the increase in domestic "terrorism" Al-Qaeda and IS affiliated groups along with some militant Muslim Brotherhood members who are quite naturally pissed off that their freely elected government was overthrown by a military coup. Al-Sissi lumped the Palestinian Resistance in with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood for a while, but that seems to be changing now. Al-Qaeda and IS are as much a threat to Gaza as they are to Egypt. All this is a topic for another forum in any event.

 

[Challenger]

LOL denial is not a river in Egypt, Achmed.

Hamas angered by Egyptian court s terrorist label - Report Gaza - Egypt - RFI

Saudis Put Terrorist Label on Hamas / Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/w...rrorist-label-on-muslim-brotherhood.html?_r=0

UAE Doubles Down on Designation of Hamas-linked CAIR as Terrorists
The UAE reaffirmed its decision to designate the Council on American Islamic Relations a terrorist org, warning the West of Islamic extremists.

Saudi Arabia Pressures Qatar on Muslim Brotherhood

Oh dear oh dear are you out of date.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

What's to notice? nothing to talk about.

"Egyptian intelligence officers recently met with senior Hamas officials to discuss the strained relationship between Cairo and Hamas, with the possibility of an Egyptian blockade of Gaza being eased.

Cairo is seemingly taking steps to reconcile with Hamas. The Urgent Matters Appeals Court in Cairo on Saturday threw out a lower court's February ruling that labeled Hamas as "terrorist" -- saying the previous court had no jurisdiction to make such a declaration.

"We consider this a correction to the previous mistake," Hamas said in a statement. "This decision confirms Egypt's steadfast towards its ethnic role towards Palestine and without doubt will have its positive effect on bilateral relations." Egypt reconciliation stretching for Hamas Fatah harmony - UPI.com

Is that the best source you could come up with the Unification Church's media corporation, News World Communications


Really desperate now to get back on the bottom rung aren't you, and hoping that your futile attempts wont draw too much attention and close scrutiny.

FAILED AGAIN

 

[Roudy]

Out of date, ha ha ha.

Hamas Egypt ties hit new low - Al-Monitor the Pulse of the Middle East

 

[Phoenall]

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

What's to notice? nothing to talk about.

"Egyptian intelligence officers recently met with senior Hamas officials to discuss the strained relationship between Cairo and Hamas, with the possibility of an Egyptian blockade of Gaza being eased.

Cairo is seemingly taking steps to reconcile with Hamas. The Urgent Matters Appeals Court in Cairo on Saturday threw out a lower court's February ruling that labeled Hamas as "terrorist" -- saying the previous court had no jurisdiction to make such a declaration.

"We consider this a correction to the previous mistake," Hamas said in a statement. "This decision confirms Egypt's steadfast towards its ethnic role towards Palestine and without doubt will have its positive effect on bilateral relations." Egypt reconciliation stretching for Hamas Fatah harmony - UPI.com

What's to talk about is that there is action being taken by Egypt to control its border due to the actions of the Islamic terrorists occupying Gaza.

Nope. Egypt increased it's border activity along the border because of the increase in domestic "terrorism" Al-Qaeda and IS affiliated groups along with some militant Muslim Brotherhood members who are quite naturally pissed off that their freely elected government was overthrown by a military coup. Al-Sissi lumped the Palestinian Resistance in with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood for a while, but that seems to be changing now. Al-Qaeda and IS are as much a threat to Gaza as they are to Egypt. All this is a topic for another forum in any event.

You mean the gaza branch of the muslim brotherhood do you that recently fired rockets into the Sinai and took part in terrorist raids. We call them hamas.